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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1101 » by GopherIt! » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:49 pm

cpfpg wrote:WTF, check out Darren Collison in the 11 games he started after CP3 went down.

41.6 MPG .48 FG% .34 3P%
20.4 PPG 4.5 RPG 9.7 APG
5 TO 1.8 SPG


he's killing it. makes me wish rambis would open things up for jonny and just let him fly.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1102 » by cpfsf » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:56 pm

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cpfsf wrote:WTF, check out Darren Collison in the 11 games he started after CP3 went down.

41.6 MPG .48 FG% .34 3P%
20.4 PPG 4.5 RPG 9.7 APG
5 TO 1.8 SPG


They should immediately trade CP3. Collison isn't a hack, but I think it's a combination of a VERY PG friendly system, tons of minutes, and Collison can run a team. He played 4 years at UCLA. Those are very Chris Paul-like stats.


Well, I guess that makes us even worse trade partners for NOH now that their backup point guard can start for almost any team

Man, it seems like teams that are 100% screwed find hope.
-First NOH had a huge mess and suddenly Marcus Thornton and Darren Collison come out of nowhere. Well, it's still technically a mess, but way to find a few gems in the draft
-Next you got Washington who got Blatche and McGee (but that's not as surprising I guess) who can at least make the team look mediocre.
-Memphis was supposed to be a joke after they traded Gasol for a guy who was a second round pick and were supposed to be a joke when they traded for Randolph (I remember thinking that they could have ruled the West if they didn't trade for Z-Bo)
-LAC wtf?
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1103 » by horaceworthy » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:47 pm

While watching the Gophers break my sports heart, one thought came to mind.

How high would Damian Johnson get drafted if McHale were still in charge?
"A while back,'' Cardinal said, "I took a picture of the standings and texted it to Love, just to bust his chops,'' Cardinal said. "He sent me a picture back of a snowdrift.''
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1104 » by daddyfivestar » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:01 pm

Quick Wolves draft question: Assuming the get the Char pick, would they be willing to sell their 3rd one for 3 mil and a future pick? (much like LA did with NY last year when NY took Douglas)
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1105 » by Esohny » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:33 pm

daddyfivestar wrote:Quick Wolves draft question: Assuming the get the Char pick, would they be willing to sell their 3rd one for 3 mil and a future pick? (much like LA did with NY last year when NY took Douglas)


I would think that they would rather combine it in a package for another lottery pick or an established player. If not, then I could see them pushing it into the future like we did to obtain the Charlotte pick, but it would depend on the team that they're dealing with. A Lakers 1st...not very attractive for instance.
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Post#1106 » by jpatrick » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:48 pm

I don't think the Wolves will carry three first rounders, so that last one will either be sold, traded or maybe used to pick up a Euro.

I keep seeing people saying the Wolves should combine their picks to move up. When was the last time two first rounders in the same draft were combined to move up? I know it's an NFL draft thing but I honestly don't remember it happening in the NBA. I know Boston and the Grizz made a swap of 2 picks for 2 other picks a few years ago (Troy Bell was one of the picks that went to the Grizz).
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1107 » by cpfsf » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:04 pm

daddyfivestar wrote:Quick Wolves draft question: Assuming the get the Char pick, would they be willing to sell their 3rd one for 3 mil and a future pick? (much like LA did with NY last year when NY took Douglas)


I think it will be traded, but it's Taylor's money. I'd be ok trading #25 and #15 and move up to #12 if there was a guy we could draft that we like, but I think the pick could be traded for a 2012 pick since that's when I think the Clippers will receive our pick.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1108 » by horaceworthy » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:45 pm

jpatrick wrote:I don't think the Wolves will carry three first rounders, so that last one will either be sold, traded or maybe used to pick up a Euro.

I keep seeing people saying the Wolves should combine their picks to move up. When was the last time two first rounders in the same draft were combined to move up? I know it's an NFL draft thing but I honestly don't remember it happening in the NBA. I know Boston and the Grizz made a swap of 2 picks for 2 other picks a few years ago (Troy Bell was one of the picks that went to the Grizz).

Yeah, '03, between the Celts and Grizz. #16 (Troy Bell) and #20 (Dahntay Jones) for #13 (Marcus Banks) and #27 (Kendrick Perkins).

The Rockets also traded #13 (Richard Jefferson), #18 (Jason Collins) and #23 (Brandon Armstrong) to the Nets for #7 (Eddie Griffin) in 2001.

The '03 type trade could be possible this year if CHA makes the playoffs and Memphis misses them. CHA and UTA picks for MEM and either DEN or LAL picks. I think Chris Wallace was in Boston's FO when the '03 trade went down.
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Post#1109 » by Casperkid23 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:32 am

Just finished up a James Anderson writeup, so figured I'd post it here since there was some discussion on him not too long ago. (Also have an Ekpe Udoh one done if people want me to post that as well).



James Anderson - Jr. SG/SF, Oklahoma State
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36251

Per36min numbers against Quality Opponents (15 games):
23.8pts (1st out of 45 prospects), 6.3rebs, 2.9asts, 1.3stls, 0.5blks, 3.0 PFs, 2.6TOs
46.9 FG%, 40.2 3pt% (35/87), 81.9 FT%, .53 FTA/FGA

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James Anderson is Mr. Offense for the Cowboys. He’s made slow, steady progress in both improving his body and his game the past two years at Oklahoma State, and while there are still some worries about how he’ll translate to the NBA level, he’s answered a lot of the questions people had about him his freshman year.

At 6’6, 220lbs with decent (not exceptional) length and good upper body strength, he has an NBA body for a SG. Athletically, he’s solid and he rarely tires. He’s not an explosive leaper, as you rarely see him dunk or get a lot of lift when he blocks the occasional shot, but he does possess great lateral quickness and has good straight-line speed.

A major limitation of Anderson’s on offense is the lack of good ball-handling skills, even though he’s improved over the past two years as being more comfortable with the ball. When he drives, he drives left about 90% of the time (even though he’s a right-handed shooter), and most of the time they are swooping drives from the right wing all the way to the left side of the hoop. He is comfortable going straight ahead, but not making quick cuts with the ball. Because of this, he’s most effective when he creates his offense before getting the ball. However, that’s not to say he can’t create his own offense in college, because he can basically do everything you need from a scoring standpoint but drive in a crowded lane and look comfortable going right… it’s more that he’s just an awesome catch-and-shoot player coming off screens, so he’s most deadly doing that.

His scoring skills outside of that are plentiful, and they’re very efficient as he leads the SG prospects I follow in scoring efficiency by a wide margin. He has deep, deep range and can hit shots with a hand in his face. He can stop and pop. In the post, he has good conversion rates on turnaround jumpers and can also spin and take it to the rim on occasion. He’s even hit a handful of high glass bank shots from 10-15 feet out. Finally, because all this, he occasionally utilizes shot fakes to get his man on his toes and then drives past them when there’s an open lane. Unfortunately, he’s not an explosive finisher, and will almost always lay it in instead of dunking - though he can use either hand. When there is room to drive, he’s good at seeking contact and getting himself to the line - where he’s a very good foul shooter for a SG and possesses a nice stroke.

Outside of scoring, he’s a relatively average or below average playmaker. He makes very questionable passes once or twice a game, sometimes passes that are not even close to the target. He also doesn’t possess good vision for a guard - or maybe he does see the passing lanes, but knows that his passing ability isn’t good enough to fit them in tight spaces. That’s not to say he’s a selfish player, because he moves the ball around well and only forces the issue sometimes - which is perfectly okay because that’s his role. He just isn’t very skilled when it comes to passing and therefore, when combined with his ball-handling troubles, would likely need to be on a team that shares the ball or has a ball-dominant PG.

On the other side of the floor, he does a good job pressuring his man on the perimeter, frequently being so locked in on staying with his man, that he often doesn’t help out on the weakside where there’s an opportunity. When he does help on the weakside, it’s usually when the ball isn’t on his side of the floor, so he can sag into the paint - and it’s there where he usually comes up with his blocks. Back to his man-defense, his good athleticism, strength, and lateral quickness are on display here, because he can easily stay with his man even if he’s active on the offensive end without the ball. While he doesn’t look to steal the ball and doesn’t have active hands in that sense, he does a good job at disrupting potential passing lanes by keeping his arms outstretched. Fundamentally, he’s come a long way from when he was a freshman, to where he’s a good college defender (often being on the other team’s best offensive backcourt player) and should be solid in the NBA.

When it comes to rebounding, he’s a kind of forgettable. He likes to mix it up and crash the boards offensively at times, but sometimes that leads to the opponents getting fast break opportunities. Defensively, he isn’t a strong rebounding guard and mainly just gets his boards by being in the right place at the right time, and occasionally being aggressive.

Overall, those who have followed him since his freshman season can see the improvement he’s made in his all-around game. Hopefully, he’ll be able to continue to improve his handle, because otherwise he’s going to be fairly limited offensively in the pros as a SG who gets most of his offense created for him. The upside is there to be a #2 scorer in the NBA, though he’s more likely destined to be a forgettable fringe starting SG. I currently have him 16th and he’ll likely hold steady there unless he really turns it up come tournament time.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1110 » by shangrila » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:15 am

Nice. I kind of like him with Charlotte's pick depending on who else is around.
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Post#1111 » by dunkonu21 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:10 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... sell_type/

I TOLD YOU ALL! I said he should have picked him with our first rounder! And I love Klove, but seriously think about Jefferson/Jordan for a second, that has to be x5 more appealing.
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Post#1112 » by moss_is_1 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:34 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/65014/20100226/hughes_jordan_could_be_a_russell_type/

I TOLD YOU ALL! I said he should have picked him with our first rounder! And I love Klove, but seriously think about Jefferson/Jordan for a second, that has to be x5 more appealing.

I like him, but everytime I see him he looks dumb as a rock.
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Post#1113 » by dunkonu21 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:39 pm

I still think I deserve a trophy or something for all the ISH I took
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Post#1114 » by Devilzsidewalk » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:11 am

dunkonu21 wrote:I still think I deserve a trophy or something for all the ISH I took


why should you get a trophy for taking a ****
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Post#1115 » by Foye » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:21 am

I think he is a bust.
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Post#1116 » by shangrila » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:31 pm

Why take him with the 3rd pick when we could have taken him with the 31st?
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Post#1117 » by dunkonu21 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:54 pm

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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1118 » by horaceworthy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:13 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
dunkonu21 wrote:I still think I deserve a trophy or something for all the ISH I took


why should you get a trophy for taking a ****

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/1 ... =More+Crap
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Post#1119 » by moss_is_1 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:58 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:Jordan>Pekovic

Idk if you're really being serious about Jordan being good...He seems like an extremely unpolished turd...who may or may not have a piece of corn in him....good example I know.
Speaking of turds, Cole Aldrich did nothing today.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1120 » by moss_is_1 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:06 am

Wow draft express is terrible...they have us taking 2.Turner(obviously good pick). then...12. Stanley Robinson...ew. and at 25. Kalin Lucas...really?

I'm thinking that if he's there with the Utah pick(assuming we don't trade it or something) we should take a look at James Anderson. He seems like he'd be a nice player in the pro's, and he could space the floor. He isn't a great ballhandler yet, but he averages a good amount of fts, and can make threes.

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