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POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10

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Would you want Jefferson or Prince + 8-10?

I WANT TO KEEP JEFFERSON!
8
13%
I prefer jefferson
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27%
neutral
10
17%
I prefer prince + #8-10
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32%
I WANT PRINCE + #8-10!
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12%
 
Total votes: 60

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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#21 » by shrink » Tue Mar 2, 2010 3:34 pm

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Your opinion in completely different from all the Piston posters on the Trade Board, who created this trade.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#22 » by Foye » Tue Mar 2, 2010 4:00 pm

GeorgiaWolf wrote:Trading Al and getting a pick to potentially even out this roster is a huge plus. Darkos limited time here demonstrates the need for a legit big man. if we could land Turner and Aldrich I would say that in itself is a pretty good off season. Prince not sure what he would contribute... Playing two rookies a lot of minutes next year won't improve our record that much but in the long run it's a huge plus.


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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#23 » by Danimals » Tue Mar 2, 2010 4:35 pm

I love big Al, but he just doesn't seem to fit here with what Kahn and Rambis want to do. I would do this trade. I would prefer to trade Al and Hollins to Utah for Kirilenko and the NYK 1st. Kirilenko is more athletic, a more disruptive defender, younger, and plays either the 3 or 4. Then I would hope and pray we some how walked away from the draft with Turner and Favors. I would also be interested in a trade for Battier and something else from Houston. Next year:

Flynn/Sessions
Turner/Ellington
(Kirilenko, Prince, or Battier)/Brewer
Love/Favors
Darko/Pekovic
Steph Curry—————Ricky
Michael Jordan———Ant
Lebron James————KG
Kevin Garnett————Love
Nikola Jokic—————KAT
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#24 » by shrink » Tue Mar 2, 2010 4:43 pm

I often value these type of polls as 3 points for an extreme action, 1 point for a mild, and 0 for a neutral. The current score is

5 x 3 = 15
9 x 1 = 9
5 x 0 = 0
13 x (-1) = -13
3 x (-3) = -9

+2 to keep Jefferson, which means, on average, we're pretty neutral on the deal. In fact, extreme responses are outnumbered by the milder ones 8-27 so far, so I think it shows its not a great deal, but not a horrible one either.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#25 » by C.lupus » Tue Mar 2, 2010 4:43 pm

I voted neutral. This wouldn't be my ideal Jefferson trade but I'd probably do it if offered. TP would provide some vet leadership and perimeter D and he's an expiring. There should be somebody good at 8 (Whiteside, Monroe, Aminu, Monteijunas, Vesely) even if Aldrich and Johnson are gone.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#26 » by Krapinsky » Tue Mar 2, 2010 5:19 pm

This is my trade from a few weeks ago. Detroit posters were on board then of the pick was after 6.

I would be afraid we were selling too low, but might have to do it for the simple reason that I'm afraid his stock could fall even lower.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#27 » by Biff Cooper » Tue Mar 2, 2010 5:24 pm

I voted neutral too. I'd currently lean towards doing it. If it looks like we are going to be drafting Favors or Cousins with our 1st, I think we'd have to do it. Prince would come in very handy providing some experience, defense, and veteran leadership.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#28 » by horaceworthy » Tue Mar 2, 2010 6:20 pm

I'm neutral on this trade as well. If Kahn is set on dealing Jefferson this summer, it's far from the worst thing he could do, and we would almost definitely have the flexibility to make sure we come away from the draft with Turner no matter where our pick falls, and if we're able to nab Turner with our pick then we'd be in position to come away with the lotto big man of our choice. It would still feel like selling low on Jefferson.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#29 » by the_bruce » Tue Mar 2, 2010 6:26 pm

I'd do this trade only in the following circumstance.

1) MN gets turner
2) This pick lands Monroe

I'd be on the fence if:
1) MN gets turner
2) MN can get aldrich or whiteside
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#30 » by dunkonu21 » Tue Mar 2, 2010 6:40 pm

I'd rather play out the whole Al Jefferson thing before we trade him. This could end up being one of the worst deals the Wolves have made in their history if Al returns to form.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#31 » by LordBaldric » Tue Mar 2, 2010 7:38 pm

I'd do it if nothing better was available (cuz I want Al off this team), but how sad would it be that Miller and Foye got us #5 while our supposed "franchise player" only gets us #8-10 + expiring?
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#32 » by Worm Guts » Tue Mar 2, 2010 7:44 pm

I would view Prince as more than an expiring.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#33 » by horaceworthy » Tue Mar 2, 2010 7:57 pm

How long would you see him staying in MN?
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#34 » by LordBaldric » Tue Mar 2, 2010 8:00 pm

Why? He's on the decline and his production is mediocre. If we want a guy with championship experience as a mentor, just sign some over the hill guy for a small salary, someone like Michael Finley.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#35 » by Worm Guts » Tue Mar 2, 2010 8:03 pm

He can still play. It always helps when veterans can actually contribute on the court. At this point Michael Finley wouldn't be anything more than another coach.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#36 » by Worm Guts » Tue Mar 2, 2010 8:09 pm

horaceworthy wrote:How long would you see him staying in MN?


It's hard to say because I think any move we make should be in the context of 2 or 3 moves. I would assume that if the Wolves traded for him, they'd attempt to sign after the season for a smaller price.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#37 » by horaceworthy » Tue Mar 2, 2010 8:26 pm

I think they'd be more likely to combine his contract with the cap in order to try and make a bigger splash. I don't see much value from Prince the player here, although Prince the contract could be pretty beneficial.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#38 » by LordBaldric » Tue Mar 2, 2010 8:35 pm

Well, ultimately I expect Kahn can get something better than this deal. I certainly hope so.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#39 » by The J Rocka » Tue Mar 2, 2010 8:38 pm

Undecided. I keep thinking that just maybe if Al gets 100% we will be set. I still believe that we should keep him for at least one more year to see how he plays around scorers (Gay? JJ? Turner? Morrow?). One on One offense Al kills, but the knock is his D. I guess what im trying to say is that if you get a mind blowing offer take it, but if it's something mediocre, we should stand pat. Then again it all depends on this draft.
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Re: POLL: Al Jefferson or Prince + #8-10 

Post#40 » by AQuintus » Tue Mar 2, 2010 8:59 pm

J_Era_3 wrote:Undecided. I keep thinking that just maybe if Al gets 100% we will be set.


That's the thing, though, if he doesn't get back to 100% and is playing like this up to next year's trade deadline, he goes from being positive enough value to maybe get expirings and a top 10 pick to being negative value due to his contract.
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