OT: Steph Curry

[Captain_Caveman]

Is the ROY.

I'd trade Rondo for him no questions asked.

[darrendaye]

The ladies love the long ball.

[PP34RA10]

0verated big time

[Captain_Caveman]

Nah, and no hate to Rondo, either.

But I have watched this kid since preseason, and he's the real deal.

His poise and BBIQ is off the charts for a rookie.

[PP34RA10]

everyone looks great in don nelsons offence

Reason why maggette is shooting 51% and scoring 20 ppg

Reason why Monta ellis is averaging 26 ppg

Reason why a scrub like CJ watson Can drop 45 points in a game

Reason why Stephon Curry looks so good

JJ redick would look like like stephon Curry if he was to take his spot

[Captain_Caveman]

Agree on the first four sentences, the latter are just uninformed.

This kid is way better than Monta is already.

[Zin5]

Agree on the first four sentences, the latter are just uninformed.

This kid is way better than Monta is already.

So, for whatever magical reason according to you, the statement applies to anyone not named Curry, because of your biased interest in him as a player.

I like him and would probably trade Ray for him, but he's not worth Rondo. The truth is, he's still a bad defensive player and that offense definitely opens a lot of shots for him and gives him a lot of good passing windows when running the point. He's good, but I'd still take someone like OJ Mayo over him. The Warriors are still terrible, despite whatever positive impact Curry's having.

[Captain_Caveman]

I'm not the one who put it in unfair parameters. The way he has it, no one on a Don Nelson team can be that good because they MUST be a product of the system.

That is not the case with Curry at all.

I'm first in line if you want to make that point about Monta and Maggette, but why did this team just suddenly start playing 10 times better with those guys out injured and Curry playing alongside a bunch of d-leaguers?

Basically, just picture Rondo if he could shoot like Ray. He's not as good a defender as Rajon (or as fast, but he's not terrible). Has the same poise, is very clutch, very smart, etc... he is very much a legit player and he should at least finish as a runner-up to Evans in ROY voting this year.

[Ortho Stice]

I like him and would probably trade Ray for him, but he's not worth Rondo. The truth is, he's still a bad defensive player and that offense definitely opens a lot of shots for him and gives him a lot of good passing windows when running the point. He's good, but I'd still take someone like OJ Mayo over him. The Warriors are still terrible, despite whatever positive impact Curry's having.

That probably has something to do with him playing next to several D-Leaguers.

[Captain_Caveman]

I realize his games don't come on until like 10:30pm EST, but I suggest people watch him more if they can.

Ws are like 3-4 without Monta the last few weeks, which when you get right down to it, is about is good as the Celts have been doing since XMas (we are 14-16 since then, including a loss to Curry's team). And again, he is a rookie playing with a bunch of d-leaguers. The rest of their current 8-man rotation has FIVE guys who were undrafted, a former 2nd rounder in Turiaf and a washed up Devean George as their 8th man.

BTW, belated LOL @ "probably trade Ray for him". Ray is 5 minutes away from being washed-up and the kid is one of the best young prospects around.

What. Ev. Er.

Let's revisit this.

[mr_sunshine]

Curry is the man. My 3 favorite non-C's, since their college days, are Steph, Durant, and Rose. Wade is a very close 4th. Steph is amazing and anyone who claims he's a product of Nelson's system hasn't watched enough Warriors games. I watched nearly all of them, living in San Fran, and he is the real deal. Early in the season Monta had more of the ball handling responsibility but since Curry has taken over he's getting into the lane, and finishing, at will and distributing the ball LIKE A BOSS!

[MyInsatiableOne]

He demolished Rondo pretty good when we were out in GS...

[mr_sunshine]

He demolished Rondo pretty good when we were out in GS...

Come on man. Steph wasn't fully initiated into Golden State's system them, didn't ever play PG in his life until last year, and is still a rookie. Not to mention everyone has a bad game now and then, especially Rondo who is extremely hit or miss on any given night.

If you watch him lately, he's been carrying the damn team. He DOMINATED Atlanta and lead the lowly Warriors to a victory over the Hawks - something the Celtics could not achieve this year. I'm not saying he is better than Rondo, but he might be in a couple years unless Rajon works on his outside game. I feel Steph's biggest weaknesses are much easier to fix than Rondo's.

[Ben-N1ce]

All I know is it's funny as hell that Minnesota ended up drafting 2 point guards instead of drafting Curry along with whatever point guard they wanted. Idiots.

[old rem]

Curry is the real deal. He learned early that you learn and adapt even if a high pick. Part of GSW getting wins without Ellis is that Nellie does not have enough G's to play small,so Tolliver plays...and he rebounds. Nellie's "system" adds a shot or two each for a number of scorers,but if/when more than half the roster can play,the 'pace' thing is offset by having more guys who are shooting. Also, without Ellis,Watson has more role,and he's very underrated,a real chemistry guy. CJ plays above his stats and tends to adapt to the current situation well,whatever it is. If he needs to score,then he scores,if he has to be an asst man he can step up there. He blends well.

Without any depth,and without speedsters like Ellis,Randolph,Maggette,GSW has to move the ball more,can't sustain a ultra fast pace. The system only works if the depth allows the speedsters to stay full speed. Play Ellis 45-48 min and by the end,his speed and hops are down 25%.

Something that has been a plus is that Curry,Morrow+ Watson are all 40% + from 3. GSW used to fire 3's with Jackson,Baron,Harrington and that trio was maybe a combined 33%. GSW has played some below avg teams that were just playing out the string, and that can leave a shooter with a good look.

Hard to compare Rondo and Curry. Rondo's speed makes an Ellis comparison more relevant. If Nelson committed to Ellis as a PG,rather than a combo G, Ellis would have adjusted but Nellie is off and on,whatever his latest impulse is,so Ellis-Curry tend to be Co-point G's. Ellis also was asked to 'carry" the team when they were desperate enough to be starting 3rd string bigs (Mikki Moore+ Vlad the bad) plus a early season Curry just getting adjusted to the NBA. Monta got big numbers....so some say he's a stat padder.

but...as for Curry, he's got skills and skills get underrated in this era where a rookie may be a year out of HS and all raw tools with minimal skills. Boston fans know. Bird, McHale,Cousy,even Russel were SKILLS more than physical tools.

[Captain_Caveman]

Speaking of the Warriors, it is crazy that they are the ones who got this kid. Been hearing some crazy stuff about that team lately. As in, everyone knows their front office is dysfunctional, but I don't think people really, truly know exactly how dysfunctional. Even the Clippers don't have anything on them.

Steph's a keeper, though. Randolph might end up pretty good and I'd let Morrow/Watson/Turiaf be an 8th/9th man for the Celts. Rest are garbage, though.

[Ortho Stice]

All I know is it's funny as hell that Minnesota ended up drafting 2 point guards instead of drafting Curry along with whatever point guard they wanted. Idiots.

Curry is a point guard though

[ahonui06]

Warriors should just assign themselves as an organization to the D-League since their whole team is from there anyway. Curry deserves to be on a better team. He's the only way who looks like he tries hard night in and night out.

[alwayslovetheceltics]

put me on the steph curry bandwagon. this kid's shot is unbelievable. jj reddick do what this kid can? no friggin way.


one thing to note is as good as shot his, i have also been impressed with how steph runs that team and he is a very underrated passer.

unfortunately for steph, he has to play with two of the most selfish players in the league- maggette and ellis. GSW would be a lot better off is they got rid of those losers and added a couple of guys that gave a damn about defense.