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Career/Season Highs for opposing backcourt players 

Post#1 » by picc » Fri Mar 5, 2010 6:34 am

Anyone else notice this to be a trend for us this year?

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Post#2 » by Slava » Fri Mar 5, 2010 7:32 am

Every lousy PG has a career game against us, this is nothing new and will stay like that unless we upgrade there.
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Post#3 » by laka4life » Fri Mar 5, 2010 7:58 am

Smush Parker could score on our PG's.

Yes, Smush Parker.
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Post#4 » by picc » Fri Mar 5, 2010 2:15 pm

Arroyo and QRich both had season highs last night. Both of them. Arroyo on 86% shooting.

This is not just a personnel problem. Its a coaching problem.
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Post#5 » by chefy » Fri Mar 5, 2010 2:49 pm

team defensive rotations, is the lakers biggest problem when playing D imo.
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Post#6 » by 96 Til Infiniti » Fri Mar 5, 2010 8:21 pm

q richardson going off for his season high last night was on kobe.

kept sagging off him. by the time he started to actually contest shots, q was already on fire.
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Post#7 » by Dr Aki » Sat Mar 6, 2010 12:18 am

getting blown by is still the problem...

when you guys remember back to last season where rambis implemented our SSZ, we were funneling guys baseline where it could act as an extra defender... players are getting around towards the middle where every lakers' eyes seems to latch onto the ball handler instead of their defensive assignments. and from there the ill-discipline and collapsing on every player, leading to your classic kick out to shooter's that kill us

it doesnt help that our bigs (in particular bynum) seem to be unable to challenge wing players without getting called for the foul.

its alright because the lakers' defense is currently designed that way, where we prevent the easy deuce for increased good looks from 3 for the opposition, and we bank on the opposition having an average to off day shooting from downtown. (lakers both #1 in both defensive categories)

but if this trend continues in the playoffs, we might have a problem on our hands
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Post#8 » by Mamba Venom » Sat Mar 6, 2010 1:49 am

Parf of me wants to go brilliant: PJ has made the worst players on the other team beat us. He has taken out the stars that is why we have the best record in the West where there are less NJ teams to beat up on.

Then part of me goes: we could have Hinrich (9.5 mil this year, 8.9 mil next year) for the same price as Ammo + Farmar + compensation this year? Why didnt we do that? WHY? WHY? OH THE AGONY? The best defensive back court/wing in NBA history WWHHHYYYY?
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Post#9 » by picc » Sat Mar 6, 2010 4:04 pm

Aki wrote:getting blown by is still the problem...

when you guys remember back to last season where rambis implemented our SSZ, we were funneling guys baseline where it could act as an extra defender... players are getting around towards the middle where every lakers' eyes seems to latch onto the ball handler instead of their defensive assignments. and from there the ill-discipline and collapsing on every player, leading to your classic kick out to shooter's that kill us

it doesnt help that our bigs (in particular bynum) seem to be unable to challenge wing players without getting called for the foul.

its alright because the lakers' defense is currently designed that way, where we prevent the easy deuce for increased good looks from 3 for the opposition, and we bank on the opposition having an average to off day shooting from downtown. (lakers both #1 in both defensive categories)

but if this trend continues in the playoffs, we might have a problem on our hands


The strong side zone only worked for the first few weeks in the season. After that teams started figuring it out, thats why we scrapped it and ran another scheme the rest of the season.

Any way you put it, encouraging guard penetration is a bad idea, IMO. Especially when you have bigs without great defensive instincts like we do.
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Post#10 » by picc » Sat Mar 6, 2010 4:05 pm

Mamba Venom wrote:Parf of me wants to go brilliant: PJ has made the worst players on the other team beat us. He has taken out the stars that is why we have the best record in the West where there are less NJ teams to beat up on.

Then part of me goes: we could have Hinrich (9.5 mil this year, 8.9 mil next year) for the same price as Ammo + Farmar + compensation this year? Why didnt we do that? WHY? WHY? OH THE AGONY? The best defensive back court/wing in NBA history WWHHHYYYY?


The offer from Chicago was actually Ammo + Fisher, I believe. We insisted on Sasha. Deal not made. And here we are now.
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Post#11 » by Dr Aki » Sun Mar 7, 2010 2:38 am

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Aki wrote:getting blown by is still the problem...

when you guys remember back to last season where rambis implemented our SSZ, we were funneling guys baseline where it could act as an extra defender... players are getting around towards the middle where every lakers' eyes seems to latch onto the ball handler instead of their defensive assignments. and from there the ill-discipline and collapsing on every player, leading to your classic kick out to shooter's that kill us

it doesnt help that our bigs (in particular bynum) seem to be unable to challenge wing players without getting called for the foul.

its alright because the lakers' defense is currently designed that way, where we prevent the easy deuce for increased good looks from 3 for the opposition, and we bank on the opposition having an average to off day shooting from downtown. (lakers both #1 in both defensive categories)

but if this trend continues in the playoffs, we might have a problem on our hands


The strong side zone only worked for the first few weeks in the season. After that teams started figuring it out, thats why we scrapped it and ran another scheme the rest of the season.

Any way you put it, encouraging guard penetration is a bad idea, IMO. Especially when you have bigs without great defensive instincts like we do.


i think you meant the SOS... where we aggressively forced doubled and forced turnovers against all ball handlers leading to tons of WTF? why did we double anthony carter?? not just the superstars, this lead to 3s on 2s and us getting burned...

anyway, dribble penetration is never a good thing. my point was that its better to shade baseline than to let them break the centre of court and open up both sides of the half court.
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Post#12 » by ALL HAIL » Mon Mar 8, 2010 12:45 am

Andre Iguodala is the potentially the best defensive guard available ... hands down. :bowdown:
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Post#13 » by Edrees » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:39 am

It's not like PGs just get a career or season high by a few points. We are tripling these guards production values from their previous season highs. That's just stupid. Quentin Richardson previous season high 8 points. I MEAN COME ON. 8 POINTS!?!?!?!? TO 26?!!? O_O And Kobe was guarding him!? geez

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