Jets trade Kerry Rhodes

[bringinhinkie]

No, I said Nmandi - Revis - Webster. And if he didn't get hurt early last year thats how it would be. He was incredible in 08. Almost as good as Revis was this year.

yaaaa....

revis had arguably the best year as a cb in nfl history.. people outside of jet fans have no idea what he brought to the table this year.. forget absolutely shutting down all pro wideouts 1 on 1, they put him on those guys many times with NO OVER THE TOP HELP, then bracketed the rest of the field.. now imagine that, one guy shuts down the other teams top threat 100% alone, while you can more than compensate for the rest of the field.. and this is on a jet team that had absolutely no natural pass rush and when they did get to the qb a huge reason was cause they could blitz from the 2ndary using guys that would normally provide a cb help on a guy like: mossx2, andre johnson, reggie wayne, chad johnsonx2, steve smith, colston, TOx2, sims walker, roddy white..

and according to mike francessa aka jet hater of the century, revis ALSO had statistically the best year as a cb in nfl history in re: to rec/yards/per catch/allowed/etc and all that

saying corey webster was almost as good as him the year prior as revis was this year is like saying cc sabathia was almost as good this year as koufax was in any of the last 4 years of his career.. just cause one guy had a very good year, does not mean it compares to an ALL TIME year

[DRoberstonNYY]

The Giants haven't had a pass rush since their Super Bowl years.

So uh, no. Webster did it without a pass rush.

[bringinhinkie]

The Giants haven't had a pass rush since their Super Bowl years.

So uh, no. Webster did it without a pass rush.

on what planet?

the giants were 6th in the nfl in sacks in 2008 (the year we are talking about).. of those 42 sacks:
tuck: 12 (de)
kiwinuka: 8 (de)
robbins 5.5 (dt)
tollefson 3.5 (de)
alford 2.5 (dt)
wynn 2 (de/dt)
cofield 3 (dt)

36.5 natural sacks of the 42 total, and you are gonna tell me they didnt have a pass rush? not to mention the name justin tuck who was a monster that year?

[rammagen]

You know thjis one of my issues with Giant fans they can not accept another team in NY has a better player at a postion so they whether rightfully or wrongly promote thier own players saying they are at teh same level when this is simpley not true. 1/2 oin either direction is Revis adn Asomgaha (Raiders DB) now with Cro we arguably have the best tandem in the league. How long till theGiants claim they have it?

[EchelonNYK]

Kerry is a bum. he's cleary jealous of all the attention Revis is getting.

[I am Ra]

You know thjis one of my issues with Giant fans they can not accept another team in NY has a better player at a postion so they whether rightfully or wrongly promote thier own players saying they are at teh same level when this is simpley not true. 1/2 oin either direction is Revis adn Asomgaha (Raiders DB) now with Cro we arguably have the best tandem in the league. How long till theGiants claim they have it?

false we are saying revis is better than anything we have. plus you will qickly find out how overrated antonio is.

[hobojoe2131]

I guess Jets fans are really sensitive about Revis. He's really good. We know that. He's first or second in the league.

But Webster was outstanding in 08. Thats my only point. And I think he'll be back there next year.

[Mecca]

The Giants haven't had a pass rush since their Super Bowl years.

So uh, no. Webster did it without a pass rush.

The Jets don't have a pass-rush without blitzing the entire house, so that makes Revis' job THAT much harder..... Where are you going w/ this?

[NY Knicka]

**** da G-men lol! I hear he Jets are trying to get Bethea or Otogwe to play FS. Can you say #1 pass defense?

[j4remi]

You know thjis one of my issues with Giant fans they can not accept another team in NY has a better player at a postion so they whether rightfully or wrongly promote thier own players saying they are at teh same level when this is simpley not true. 1/2 oin either direction is Revis adn Asomgaha (Raiders DB) now with Cro we arguably have the best tandem in the league. How long till theGiants claim they have it?

false we are saying revis is better than anything we have. plus you will qickly find out how overrated antonio is.

I think Antonio will be as effective as the S we replace Rhodes with now. He's a risk taker which is always scary but can pay big dividends if they aren't giving up the big plays...With a S who has good coverage over the top to protect him, we'll be fine and he can have a big year.

[hobojoe2131]

**** da G-men lol! I hear he Jets are trying to get Bethea or Otogwe to play FS. Can you say #1 pass defense?

Not when Cromartie is giving up big plays left and right. Also the Jets have a limit on what they can spend on FA's because of the final eight rule.

[Jakespeare]

Damn, Rhodes was my favorite defensive player. At least we still have Revis (I know he's better, lol) and Cromartie.

[treiz]

**** da G-men lol! I hear he Jets are trying to get Bethea or Otogwe to play FS. Can you say #1 pass defense?

Not when Cromartie is giving up big plays left and right. Also the Jets have a limit on what they can spend on FA's because of the final eight rule.

The main reason why Cro struggled last year was because of the SD scheme, they played zone more often and Cro is 10x better at man, and with the way Rex plays I expect a good year from him.

Also, I want to us to draft Myron Rolle, if we somehow get him, that would be awesome!

[hobojoe2131]

**** da G-men lol! I hear he Jets are trying to get Bethea or Otogwe to play FS. Can you say #1 pass defense?

Not when Cromartie is giving up big plays left and right. Also the Jets have a limit on what they can spend on FA's because of the final eight rule.

The main reason why Cro struggled last year was because of the SD scheme, they played zone more often and Cro is 10x better at man, and with the way Rex plays I expect a good year from him.

Also, I want to us to draft Myron Rolle, if we somehow get him, that would be awesome!

Rolle isn't very athletic and doesn't excel in any particular area. I doubt he'd be getting nearly this amount of hype if he wasnt a Rhodes Scholar.

[Flaming Mo]

A couple of things here why nobody should really dislike this deal.

1) Rex is known for really evaluating and finding defensive talent. So even though the Jets created a hole at safety, we definitely have a guy in place who not only will be able to fill this hole, we can also expect and upgrade over Rhodes who never played up to his potential in recent years.

2) It is obvious that Rhodes was not what Rex wanted his FS to look like. Otherwise he wouldn't have benched him and of course he wouldn't have traded him. He gave Rhodes a chance to prove himself, actually numerous chances, and he didn't.

3) Rhodes didn't want to be here. He got into arguments with coaches, cared way too much about off field stuff and was a loudmouth. I don't know what really happened but in the end there are strong indications that Rhodes wasn't a good soldier at all.

Now when you look at it, Rex really want to trust his players and he gets HIS players who fit his system and his identity. We aquired three former Ravens last year (Scott, Leonhard, Douglas). Other defenders like Pace, Revis and Harris proved themselves in Ryan's system and earned his trust. Rhodes and Lito didn't (both were benched last year) and so he looks for an upgrade. I really like that strategy since neither of them was that good so he had to cater his system to them. The draft is really deep at the safety position with a ton of guys who could go in the second round (Chad Jones, Morgan Burnett, Nate Allen, Reshad Jones) and maybe we even have a chance at Earl Thomas in the first. We would propably have to move up for him though.

Another option might be Antoine Bethea from the Colts. Tremendous young talent who got a first round tender.

[bringinhinkie]

I guess Jets fans are really sensitive about Revis. He's really good. We know that. He's first or second in the league.

But Webster was outstanding in 08. Thats my only point. And I think he'll be back there next year.

its not sensitivity, its insulting

how would you react as a yankee fan if met fans were running around saying krod was as good or almost as good as mo? or david wright as arod? not to mention as good as them coming off all time years?

webster had a nice year in 08, revis had arguably the best year of all time in 09 not to mention was lights out in 08 as well, it's just no comparison

i still cannot believe he didnt win dpoy and lost to a guy at his same position who was burnt several times.. do people other than jet fans even watch the jets? this guy was absolutely off the charts last year, the only comparable year as a cb in recent history off the top of my head would be when chris mcallister had a very nice run, but it still wasnt on the level of revis

ill say this, the jets d as a whole last year was overrated, but revis was unbelievable, i have never seen a defensive player perform that well game in and game out over the course of a season in my life, all 1 on 1

any back on topic, f*ck kerry rhodes, he had to go, if he'd put all his bs modeling, twittering, acting, talking, basketball playing, talking, more modeling, to the side, hed be a perennial pro baller.. instead hes just an extremely talented bum with a big mouth who thinks hes bigger than the team.. this guy actually had the nerve to call out revis last year (when ginn caught that td bomb)

and im all for giving up that 1st rounder for bethea, physical safety whod fit perfect and is all business.. i dont wanna have to rely on a draft pick/rook getting a ton of reps at fs, its just too risky on a defense that is solid+ everywhere else

bethea/leonard/revis/cromartie 2ndary would just be (and i know cromartie has gotten his criticism, but hes our 2nd corner here, more than adequate and big play ability which we really lacked last season-hes gonna see the rock a ton too with revis on the other side)

ive heard atogwe's name as well in re: to safety options

i have to admit this too, rhodes was my favorite player the last few years (before this past season), i feel like an **** for ever rooting for the guy.. waste of talent dude was so good a few years ago

[zilby]

Could have been worth more, but this season probably brought him down a lot.

[hobojoe2131]

I guess Jets fans are really sensitive about Revis. He's really good. We know that. He's first or second in the league.

But Webster was outstanding in 08. Thats my only point. And I think he'll be back there next year.

its not sensitivity, its insulting

how would you react as a yankee fan if met fans were running around saying krod was as good or almost as good as mo? or david wright as arod? not to mention as good as them coming off all time years?

webster had a nice year in 08, revis had arguably the best year of all time in 09 not to mention was lights out in 08 as well, it's just no comparison

i still cannot believe he didnt win dpoy and lost to a guy at his same position who was burnt several times.. do people other than jet fans even watch the jets? this guy was absolutely off the charts last year, the only comparable year as a cb in recent history off the top of my head would be when chris mcallister had a very nice run, but it still wasnt on the level of revis

ill say this, the jets d as a whole last year was overrated, but revis was unbelievable, i have never seen a defensive player perform that well game in and game out over the course of a season in my life, all 1 on 1

any back on topic, f*ck kerry rhodes, he had to go, if he'd put all his bs modeling, twittering, acting, talking, basketball playing, talking, more modeling, to the side, hed be a perennial pro baller.. instead hes just an extremely talented bum with a big mouth who thinks hes bigger than the team.. this guy actually had the nerve to call out revis last year (when ginn caught that td bomb)

and im all for giving up that 1st rounder for bethea, physical safety whod fit perfect and is all business.. i dont wanna have to rely on a draft pick/rook getting a ton of reps at fs, its just too risky on a defense that is solid+ everywhere else

bethea/leonard/revis/cromartie 2ndary would just be (and i know cromartie has gotten his criticism, but hes our 2nd corner here, more than adequate and big play ability which we really lacked last season-hes gonna see the rock a ton too with revis on the other side)

ive heard atogwe's name as well in re: to safety options

i have to admit this too, rhodes was my favorite player the last few years (before this past season), i feel like an **** for ever rooting for the guy.. waste of talent dude was so good a few years ago

Ok, well I didnt try to take anything away from Revis. He had an amazing year. It just pains me that we were stuck with Aaron Ross even though Revis was no. 1 on our board that year (even Jerry Reese said so).

Regarding Bathea, he is a great player, but fits the Colts cover 2 to a tee. I dont know if he would have the same effect on the Jets. Also, do you know anything about the top eight being limited in spending new rule?

[zilby]

Be happy for us or GTFO Giants fans.

Trolls need to stop.

[j4remi]

Ok, well I didnt try to take anything away from Revis. He had an amazing year. It just pains me that we were stuck with Aaron Ross even though Revis was no. 1 on our board that year (even Jerry Reese said so).

Regarding Bathea, he is a great player, but fits the Colts cover 2 to a tee. I dont know if he would have the same effect on the Jets. Also, do you know anything about the top eight being limited in spending new rule?

Fair enough on the Revis front. I'm not a big fan of Bathea in our system either. I'd rather look to the draft and I'm also really curious about that dumb top eight rule as well.