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Re: Rockets vs. Pistons 3/7/10 Game Thread 

Post#201 » by Teckon » Mon Mar 8, 2010 1:56 am

In the piston board, they are cursing rockets for not wining this game.
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Post#202 » by jzmagik » Mon Mar 8, 2010 1:57 am

Guy986 wrote:
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Morey4president wrote:KM was suppose to be our closer, and Shane had a good look before Brooks decided to launch up a 3. GOD DAMMIT TRADE BROOKS WHILE HIS VALUE IS STILL HIGH.


KM really showing that he can't be a go-to scorer for us..


He can't create. If people are biting on his pumpfake, he's shut down.


He has one cross over dribble move, and lives off the pumpfake. He's really got terrible ball-handling skills, as shown by the travels he gets called for every game and how he always picks up his dribble

And that pump-fake to pass is really annoying me..
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Re: Rockets vs. Pistons 3/7/10 Game Thread 

Post#203 » by Guy986 » Mon Mar 8, 2010 1:57 am

Teckon wrote:In the piston board, they are cursing rockets for not wining this game.


Sure. THey want ping pong balls. I would too if my team is on the Tank.
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Post#204 » by M4P » Mon Mar 8, 2010 1:57 am

Guy986 wrote:
jzmagik wrote:
Morey4president wrote:KM was suppose to be our closer, and Shane had a good look before Brooks decided to launch up a 3. GOD DAMMIT TRADE BROOKS WHILE HIS VALUE IS STILL HIGH.


KM really showing that he can't be a go-to scorer for us..


He can't create. If people are biting on his pumpfake, he's shut down.

Which is why an AB and KM back-court will always fail. Move Brooks to the bench and have him be a Jason Terry-lite plug or trade him while his value is still high :nonono: .
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jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
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Post#205 » by Teckon » Mon Mar 8, 2010 1:57 am

Lowry's value went up with each game he missed
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Post#206 » by DreamShook34 » Mon Mar 8, 2010 2:01 am

Kyle Lowry is going to make Jordan Hill spectacular.. He actually want to run. and Lowry is going to find him every time.
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Post#207 » by Guy986 » Mon Mar 8, 2010 2:02 am

jzmagik wrote:Kevin "The Ghost" Martin


He's pale and he tends to disappear. Appropriately named. Lets hope it catches on.
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Post#208 » by aznkillabeezZz » Mon Mar 8, 2010 2:02 am

Sometimes a few bad calls by the refs, and a few bad plays like the one with battier fast break, and to's and misses by ab, is the difference in a game
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Post#209 » by KF10 » Mon Mar 8, 2010 2:06 am

Martin is not effective in isolation situations. Sure, he can able to score once in a while but it is not all that great.

He is much more dangerous if the Rockets ran a double screen for Martin or a weakside screen and let Martin pop a jumper. Essentially, off the ball for Martin.
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Post#210 » by Joseph17 » Mon Mar 8, 2010 2:58 am

KF10 wrote:Martin is not effective in isolation situations. Sure, he can able to score once in a while but it is not all that great.

He is much more dangerous if the Rockets ran a double screen for Martin or a weakside screen and let Martin pop a jumper. Essentially, off the ball for Martin.

I didn't see the game but I agree with you 100%. People on here are expecting Martin to be a Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade type of scorer when he isn't. He's a number 2 option and he should be used off the ball coming off screens. They should basically use him exactly how the Pacers used Reggie. He's not the shooter that Reggie was, but he could make up for that with his ability to pump fake and get to the rim.
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Post#211 » by jzmagik » Mon Mar 8, 2010 3:05 am

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KF10 wrote:Martin is not effective in isolation situations. Sure, he can able to score once in a while but it is not all that great.

He is much more dangerous if the Rockets ran a double screen for Martin or a weakside screen and let Martin pop a jumper. Essentially, off the ball for Martin.

I didn't see the game but I agree with you 100%. People on here are expecting Martin to be a Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade type of scorer when he isn't. He's a number 2 option and he should be used off the ball coming off screens. They should basically use him exactly how the Pacers used Reggie. He's not the shooter that Reggie was, but he could make up for that with his ability to pump fake and get to the rim.


The problem is he stand around way too much on offense to become the player that Reggie was...

Stands on the perimeter, catches the ball, pump fake, if his man doesn't bite, he passes it to someone else....

He really needs to move more, curl around screens for jumpers, he looks way too lazy out there.
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Re: Rockets vs. Pistons 3/7/10 Game Thread 

Post#212 » by Joseph17 » Mon Mar 8, 2010 3:17 am

jzmagik wrote:
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KF10 wrote:Martin is not effective in isolation situations. Sure, he can able to score once in a while but it is not all that great.

He is much more dangerous if the Rockets ran a double screen for Martin or a weakside screen and let Martin pop a jumper. Essentially, off the ball for Martin.

I didn't see the game but I agree with you 100%. People on here are expecting Martin to be a Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade type of scorer when he isn't. He's a number 2 option and he should be used off the ball coming off screens. They should basically use him exactly how the Pacers used Reggie. He's not the shooter that Reggie was, but he could make up for that with his ability to pump fake and get to the rim.


The problem is he stand around way too much on offense to become the player that Reggie was...

Stands on the perimeter, catches the ball, pump fake, if his man doesn't bite, he passes it to someone else....

He really needs to move more, curl around screens for jumpers, he looks way too lazy out there.

I'm sure he'd move around a lot more if Adelman asked him to and if he improved his stamina. He needs to spend more time on the treadmill. The only problem with that is that he might get even skinnier than he is now.
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Re: Rockets vs. Pistons 3/7/10 Game Thread 

Post#213 » by fabio » Mon Mar 8, 2010 3:51 am

like I said when Rockets signed Kevin Martin, having Brooks and Martin at the same time on the floor would hurt the team greatly. It should be AB-Ariza or Lowry-Martin, but Brooks and Martin together is an ego clash, and to make it worse, an ego clash with no D at all. Obviously, Rockets have no other options due to Lowry and Ariza injuries, so I guess Adelman really doesn't have many options. Plus, they really can score, so it's not like you won't use them on OT. Now, the problem is AB isn't exactly great at clutch time (Martin is way better, btw), and if they're fighting to see who makes another basket while providing 0 defense, well.... results at sight.

In short, without Ariza and Lowry, if Rockets don't define the game before the end, winning games is just a question of luck, because you know they won't win on talent alone.

Personally, I'd draw the plays so guards look for Scola or Hill. I'd trust them 10 times more to at least get a FT chance than AB and Martin throwing bricks.

btw, this:

Brooks 3pt Shot: Missed 00:05.9


just after Prince gave Houston the chance to win or tie the game when he missed both FT with 11 seconds to play. I don't know if Adelman made that play, but quite frankly, I really doubt it.

Anyway, a shame to be closing the season this way after such a great season in which everybody expected Rockets to tank or at least to be killed. Although Rockets still may make play-offs, I don't think it will be worthier than going for lottery
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Re: Rockets vs. Pistons 3/7/10 Game Thread 

Post#214 » by kam_soluusar » Mon Mar 8, 2010 5:45 am

langer wrote:Hill is gonna be good with this team. Give him one or two season, he is gonna be better than Landry.


That's a crock of **** if ever I heard it. Landry is the man. No one I have seen comes close to what he has to offer.
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Re: Rockets vs. Pistons 3/7/10 Game Thread 

Post#215 » by Boredagain » Mon Mar 8, 2010 11:10 am

i'd rather have a high pick now..
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Post#216 » by Rendezvous » Mon Mar 8, 2010 2:25 pm

Boredagain wrote:i'd rather have a high pick now..


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Post#217 » by KiDdFrESh » Mon Mar 8, 2010 3:26 pm

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langer wrote:Hill is gonna be good with this team. Give him one or two season, he is gonna be better than Landry.


That's a crock of **** if ever I heard it. Landry is the man. No one I have seen comes close to what he has to offer.


Dude get over it already. Whats done is done. I miss Landry as well, he was my favorite Rocket too (except for T-Mac that is). The NBA is a business. To get a quality player you have to give up one. Martin fills a bigger hole for this team than Landry did.

You know there is a reason why Landry came off the bench right? Got any ideas? Oh yeah, we've got some dude named Luis Scola who is a SUPERIOR player than Landry.

So in the great words of Eddie Murphy, "Smile. Have a coke. And shut the f*ck up!!" :lol: juss kiddin.

But seriously man, you've got to get over it.
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Re: Rockets vs. Pistons 3/7/10 Game Thread 

Post#218 » by Joseph17 » Tue Mar 9, 2010 3:31 am

kam_soluusar wrote:
langer wrote:Hill is gonna be good with this team. Give him one or two season, he is gonna be better than Landry.


That's a crock of **** if ever I heard it. Landry is the man. No one I have seen comes close to what he has to offer.

I don't understand your fascination with Landry. He is a great player, but you make it seem like he's Tim Duncan 2.0.
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Post#219 » by RaoulDuke79 » Tue Mar 9, 2010 3:52 am

Apparently Landry has some mighty tasty balls.
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Re: Rockets vs. Pistons 3/7/10 Game Thread 

Post#220 » by TMU » Tue Mar 9, 2010 10:34 pm

RaoulDuke79 wrote:Apparently Landry has some mighty tasty balls.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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