O/T: Lil Wayne sent to Rykers Island today

[Ito]

ya buggin if ya think he's actually gonna be with the rest of them... He's rich... he's gonna be chillin, smokin a blunt with a few female cops lickin his lollipop

I never been to Rykers.. just Bookings.. and that **** is dirty as **** I cant even imagine how Rykers is... probably a room full of **** killing each other... I kno when things get too wild thats when the boys come in and try to control things with tasers, sticks and stuff.. but they really dont care if they just kill each other

[TheBluest]

PWNED!!!!

one thing about these southern rappers.. Up north cats really don't feel them the way these cats do down here..this is not Jay Z going to jail or puffy, those guys would probably get cut some slack.. but weezy has no pull up north I bet.. LOL

Plus his gang affiliation(which isn't pure) because LA Bloods made Birdman/Weezy pay dues just for cred. They got mashed up on and had to pay out of pocket for being in the wrong place at the wrong time as a lesson to the streets. So he could get it from both sides...Enemy side...Gang affiliated side knowing he isn't authentic.

Good theory but in reality NO EAST COAST BLOOD IS AUTHENTIC so they will not check him the way a West Coast blood would. East coast bloods will accept him regardless because they will be eager to have him rep their set.[/quote]

Weezy is a Southern Affiliated Blood in an East Coast Incarcerated Facility(Rikers). Which means there could be West Coast Affiliated/Official Bloods in an East Coast Incarcerated Facility(Rikers). Trust all Gang Affiliated timers aren't strategically geographically locked up in facilities.

[Nonstop]

Good theory in principle but in reality NO EAST COAST BLOOD IS AUTHENTIC so they will not check him the way a West Coast blood would. East coast bloods will accept him regardless because they will be eager to have him rep their set.

was just finna say that... east coast bloods treat you like family off top (from what ive seen from some of the NJ/NY homies) just cause you from the west..


its a different story back home, but i aint gone go no further ya dig..

[WAYSA]

Lil Wayne would be the first one giving up his mattress, bag of dorrito's, and phone time if he was in gen pop.

[EchelonNYK]

I hear Rikers Island is crip town now. good luck to that fake blood, Lil Wayne.

[2010]

I found this damned fascinating, man. Any other interesting information you want to throw at us? I don't think I'm alone when I say this was one of the best realgm posts of the year.

jail is no game man. It's very different from PRISON and most can't distinguish the differences between the two. Jail is short-term housing (less than 2yrs) before sentencing. The reality of what kind of time the inmate will be doing hasn't hit him yet. Often he's sitting there for upwards of a year awaiting trail and the system is dragging. He begins to not give a phucc. Whereas in prison guys are already sentenced, know what kind if #'s they're dealing with and looking forward to parole. They do give a phucc and are less likely to get crazy unless they are lifers or dude with football #'s. On the island, EVERYONE is there on a short-term stay which is why it's a much more violent experience and dudes dread the island and can't wait to get sentenced and shipped upstate. Anything you wanna know in particular just ask...

This def the most interesting stuff i read in o/t thread in long time. You did time or something? How do you know all this stuff? lol All my knowledge of prison comes from Shawshank Redemption and Ol' Dirty Bastard albums

I just think that there's a lot of young cats who browse these forums (Wayne fans in particular) who listen to the music and hear the rappers talk on wax about all this street schit in a glorified manner and these kids who don't know the life get jaded points of view. They get the "commercialized" side of the game but they never get to hear the realities of what happens when you find yourself on Rikers or up north doing a bid. It's not a game at all and there's no glory in it, contrary to the picture these rappers try to paint in the minds of the youth. I could tell some stories that would really never be heard by many of you that would have cats really re-evaluating their thought-process the next time they think of trying to "act" tough and do something stupid that would compromise their freedom. I put "LOL" after some of this stuff because sometimes you gotta laugh to keep from crying. it's crazy when the lights go out and you hear grown men crying.

[No.Bull.Son]

@2010--- That's some real ish you just wrote.

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

I just think that there's a lot of young cats who browse these forums (Wayne fans in particular) who listen to the music and hear the rappers talk on wax about all this street schit in a glorified manner and these kids who don't know the life get jaded points of view. They get the "commercialized" side of the game but they never get to hear the realities of what happens when you find yourself on Rikers or up north doing a bid. It's not a game at all and there's no glory in it, contrary to the picture these rappers try to paint in the minds of the youth. I could tell some stories that would really never be heard by many of you that would have cats really re-evaluating their thought-process the next time they think of trying to "act" tough and do something stupid that would compromise their freedom. I put "LOL" after some of this stuff because sometimes you gotta laugh to keep from crying. it's crazy when the lights go out and you hear grown men crying.

Good post. Thanks for all of your insight on this stuff.

[YaoisGodsAnswer]

Lil Wayne fyi is only 5'6" hell even Im taller than him

[Ito]

Rappers do the right thing. They just talk about what we live what we go through. They dont live that life, they are famous and rich... but most of us live in the hood and lived that street life at one point in our lifes.. You wont learn unless you experience it yourself and learn from your own mistakes.

There's alot of people who got their mind F'd up, but it's not because of Rappers.. or TV.. or whatever people like to blame these days, it's because of how they were raised, and things they went through. Some people just dont recover from it.. Others are more strong minded and take all that as a lesson learned and better themselves

[2010]

Rappers do the right thing. They just talk about what we live what we go through. They dont live that life, they are famous and rich... but most of us live in the hood and lived that street life at one point in our lifes.. You wont learn unless you experience it yourself and learn from your own mistakes.

There's alot of people who got their mind F'd up, but it's not because of Rappers.. or TV.. or whatever people like to blame these days, it's because of how they were raised, and things they went through. Some people just dont recover from it.. Others are more strong minded and take all that as a lesson learned and better themselves

No rappers do the wrong thing. They give a one-sided account of the street life that is all glitzy, glamorized and glorified. They don't present the harshest realities as they are...they put ribbons and bows on them to make them appear sensationalized and something the youth should aspire to.

Listen to Jay-Z talk about the drug game. He makes it seem so appealing to some kids who might have never sold crack on a corner and don't know what they'd be getting themselves into. It's easy for you or I (who have probably grown up hard) to just place the onus on ourselves and/or our environment. But what about these kids who haven't necessarily grown up street. Yet they listen to the music and want their life to imitate that art. I know plenty of middle-class dudes who would come down to the projects where I grew up and did the things we did. They didn't have to. They did them because they wanted to be down. Don't you think that "wanna be" inspiration came from somewhere other than their favorable environment. I know a dude who's parents were ministers, grew up in an upper-middle class home yet started selling crack in the early 90s at 15 years old. He ended up losing 17 years of his life man.

[Starks1994]

Rappers do the right thing. They just talk about what we live what we go through. They dont live that life, they are famous and rich... but most of us live in the hood and lived that street life at one point in our lifes.. You wont learn unless you experience it yourself and learn from your own mistakes.

There's alot of people who got their mind F'd up, but it's not because of Rappers.. or TV.. or whatever people like to blame these days, it's because of how they were raised, and things they went through. Some people just dont recover from it.. Others are more strong minded and take all that as a lesson learned and better themselves

No rappers do the wrong thing. They give a one-sided account of the street life that is all glitzy, glamorized and glorified. They don't present the harshest realities as they are...they put ribbons and bows on them to make them appear sensationalized and something the youth should aspire to.

Listen to Jay-Z talk about the drug game. He makes it seem so appealing to some kids who might have never sold crack on a corner and don't know what they'd be getting themselves into. It's easy for you or I (who have probably grown up hard) to just place the onus on ourselves and/or our environment. But what about these kids who haven't necessarily grown up street. Yet they listen to the music and want their life to imitate that art. I know plenty of middle-class dudes who would come down to the projects where I grew up and did the things we did. They didn't have to. They did them because they wanted to be down. Don't you think that "wanna be" inspiration came from somewhere other than their favorable environment. I know a dude who's parents were ministers, grew up in an upper-middle class home yet started selling crack in the early 90s at 15 years old. He ended up losing 17 years of his life man.

This is deep. I'm reminded of "The Wire" more than "0z" with all this talk. This is part of the problem. Hip Hop culture really got huge in the 90s and it morphed into something antisocial.

Rap in the 80s had street themes with gangs and graffiti but it wasn't as overtly gritty as it is now. The 90s West Coast Gangsta Rap is really where I think kids started to notice and mimick the Snoops, Dres and Easy Es. At that time MTV really played a part in brining this culture into middle class households. Not to be out done, the Eastcoast Rappers had a greenlight to also talk about the life of poverty and drugs. Rap didn't create this lifestyle though. It was always there. It's basic social economics. What Rap did was spread this lifestyle and celebrate it. Celebrating is what got out of hand.

Ultimatley, I think when Pac and Big got shot (today actually) that is when things calmned down a bit. Rap now seems to have gotten really cartoonish. Kids still eat this **** up though, and we all see it everday we walk home.

I love Hip Hop, but I def blame it for posioning society. Too many kids didn't have education, partenting, and the means that most of us on the forum have to separate reality from ficition.

[TheBluest]

Well we know Weezy is an example of reality sets in.

That's why I quoted his bar from A Milli and mentioned what happened to him when they went to L.A. and got caught slippin

It's also the very reason he showed up in court buying time for sentencing making up DENTAL LA GRILL excuses. These dudes don't want to see the Jail nor Pen. They can rap about it all they want...but none of them take like a real G going in.

[2010]

Well we know Weezy is an example of reality sets in.

That's why I quoted his bar from A Milli and mentioned what happened to him when they went to L.A. and got caught slippin

It's also the very reason he showed up in court buying time for sentencing making up DENTAL LA GRILL excuses. These dudes don't want to see the Jail nor Pen. They can rap about it all they want...but none of them take like a real G going in.

"I ride slow...and when I pass they say 'wdup killa' man stop bringing up my past!" – Lil Wayne

Now who hear actually BELIEVES what is being alluded to by this quote from Wayne?

[ITGM]

Day 2 Exclusive Footage of Lil Wayne at Rikers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz7X_RLOiOk

[j4remi]

Fake thug, no love
you get the slug
CB4 gusto

[Ito]

Most rappers just dont give a one-sided account to the street life tho... Lil Wayne has plenty of songs where he's really on some deep ish trying to give a good advice.. Same with Jay Z... and many others.. when they talk all that gangsta stuff It's also just entertainment... you can't really blame them if there's people out there who don't got their mind right and let them get influenced by it.. Who ever gets influenced by music could easily get influenced by anything else, I cant see how you can put the blame on the Rappers.. they just doing their job..

Its like saying Videogames is the reason kids shoot up their school. Or saying that Nicki Minaj is the reason why all the girls are acting like birds now... No, girls been acting like that, Nicki is just supporting them so they can support her.

Rappers are going to talk about what's hot, they just trying to relate to the people that are listening to their music.. they get influenced by the fans just as much as fans get influenced by them... If we wanted to hear about books and stuff like that, I am sure they would have been rapping about that..

Everybody has a choice to do whatever they want with their life, I can't blame a Rapper just because his fan doesn't want to do the right thing...

[j4remi]

Most rappers just dont give a one-sided account to the street life tho... Lil Wayne has plenty of songs where he's really on some deep ish trying to give a good advice.. Same with Jay Z... and many others.. when they talk all that gangsta stuff It's also just entertainment... you can't really blame them if there's people out there who don't got their mind right and let them get influenced by it.. Who ever gets influenced by music could easily get influenced by anything else, I cant see how you can put the blame on the Rappers.. they just doing their job..

Its like saying Videogames is the reason kids shoot up their school. Or saying that Nicki Minaj is the reason why all the girls are acting like birds now... No, girls been acting like that, Nicki is just supporting them so they can support her.

Rappers are going to talk about what's hot, they just trying to relate to the people that are listening to their music.. they get influenced by the fans just as much as fans get influenced by them... If we wanted to hear about books and stuff like that, I am sure they would have been rapping about that..

Everybody has a choice to do whatever they want with their life, I can't blame a Rapper just because his fan doesn't want to do the right thing...

Granted you have a point, the influence of rappers on kids who really don't understand the reality and gravity of subject matter is very pronounced. I've been around it all and trust that in the suburbs, these kids are clueless and just do what looks cool in the videos. Not all of them, but there are plenty. Whether or not they mean to, a lot of rappers have created a lopsided view of the struggle...not the game. The struggle.

[Manhattan Project]

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[TheBluest]

Listen to Jay-Z talk about the drug game. He makes it seem so appealing to some kids who might have never sold crack on a corner and don't know what they'd be getting themselves into.

Hollup Hollup Hollup

Jay-Z spoke in his bars from the heart you know....

Hove is back, life stories told through rap
**** actin' like I sold you crack
Like I told you sell drugs...no...
Hov did that so hopefully you won't have to go through that
I was raised in the pro-jects, roaches and rats
Smokers out back, sellin' they mama's sofa
Lookouts on the corner, focused on the ave
Ladies in the window, focused on the kinfolk
Me under a lamp post, why I got my hand closed?
Cracks in my palm, watchin' the long arm of the law
So you know I seen it all before
I've seen hoop dreams deflate like a true fiend's weight
To try and to fail, the two things I hate
Succeed in this rap game, the two things is great

^^^^^^^^

What else can you say about my dude
He gets bizzay