Yikes, Amare leaves and we replace with Frye?
It is becoming increasingly imperitive that the Suns keep Amare. He is a beast that is just not replaceable. You lose Amare, you go backwards for 5-6 years.
Why can't Frye be the next Amare?
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justinb80 wrote:Any player that explodes for 30 points and 12 rebounds in the NBA has potential. And that was one of the only games where the Suns actually went through him on offense. He's averaging 11.6 points as a starter, and that's mainly on garbage points and put-backs, and it's also in only 25.3 minutes. Most starters play 35 minutes or so a game.
Lopez's stats as a starter in 25.3 minutes/game:
11.6 points
6.5 rebounds
1.2 blocks
2.5 personal fouls
Lopez's stats extrapolated out over 35 minutes:
16 points
9 rebounds
1.7 blocks
3.45 fouls
This is all without him being a focus of their offense whatsoever. We've seen he can score using a variety of attacks: lay-ups, dunks, hook shots, scoop shots, close-up jumpers. He can develop a post game. IF the Suns chose to go through him every so often, I think he could be one of the premier scorers on the team. He doesn't have the mentality, I don't think, to be "the guy" but he can be one of the "big three" on a team, if the team chose to pursue that route.
What we need is go-to guy in the post if we have Frye as our PF. Rolo is too mechanical to ever have anything more than a 15-16ppg scorer. I'm not saying he can't pick up a go-to hookshot or some sorta go-to move, but he will not be a the type of scorer we need in the post. Frye won't be playing in the post and if we don't have a solid 18-22ppg scorer in the post then we're going to lose a ton of paint points, meaning we're going to be shooting jumpshots ===> no easy points.
Paint points is the big issue.
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Jimmy76 wrote:we can probably barely make playoffs running
Nash/Dragic
J-Rich/Barbosa
Hill/Dudley
Frye/Clark
Lopez/Frye
Amare leaves, we will add 2 FAs (one may be LouA) and a 2nd round rookie.
The question will be, who do we add to the above to remain competitive. We will have about 8-10 to spend.
I think we will entertain deals for barbasoso too. As we will have a large pair of sneakers to fill after the de-amare-ation
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Personally, I'd rather we kind of sucked next year, so we could get another lottery pick.*
* as opposed to just barely missing the playoffs or sneaking in as an 8th seed
* as opposed to just barely missing the playoffs or sneaking in as an 8th seed
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Frank Lee wrote:Jimmy76 wrote:we can probably barely make playoffs running
Nash/Dragic
J-Rich/Barbosa
Hill/Dudley
Frye/Clark
Lopez/Frye
Amare leaves, we will add 2 FAs (one may be LouA) and a 2nd round rookie.
The question will be, who do we add to the above to remain competitive. We will have about 8-10 to spend.
I think we will entertain deals for barbasoso too. As we will have a large pair of sneakers to fill after the de-amare-ation
I personally predict that the Suns will end up trading Barbosa this offseason for a 1st rounder in the draft.
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Frye just doesn't have the athleticism or demeanor to be compared to Amare.
I think he can remain a valuable player for the Suns, but much of that depends on who he will be playing with. He's definitely not a center. He certainly doesn't hurt us on offense, but I'm not sure it always balances his soft defense and rebounding. If he is playing alongside a beastly rebounder he will be fine though. So it kind of depends on whether or not Robin/Amare can rebound at a high enough rate to make up for Channing.
I agree that, offensively, he needs to play with someone who can score in the paint. But that doesn't necessarily have to be a great low post scorer, it could be a guard or wing who can penetrate. It would be great if he could play next to a center or PF that demands a double-team, but he could be just as effective with a penetrator who sucks the defense in.
I think he can remain a valuable player for the Suns, but much of that depends on who he will be playing with. He's definitely not a center. He certainly doesn't hurt us on offense, but I'm not sure it always balances his soft defense and rebounding. If he is playing alongside a beastly rebounder he will be fine though. So it kind of depends on whether or not Robin/Amare can rebound at a high enough rate to make up for Channing.
I agree that, offensively, he needs to play with someone who can score in the paint. But that doesn't necessarily have to be a great low post scorer, it could be a guard or wing who can penetrate. It would be great if he could play next to a center or PF that demands a double-team, but he could be just as effective with a penetrator who sucks the defense in.
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Why didn't Sam Perkins become Hakeem the Dream!