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trwi7 · Post #301 » by **trwi7** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:24 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:And all is not well in Hawk Land right now.

PANACE!

Post #302 » by **timd1218** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:25 pm

Ovechkin suspended 2 more games. Love it. I seriously hope he continues down this path. He'll be out of the game in 5 years.

Post #303 » by **ajaX82** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:06 pm

He probably needed to get suspended, but how can you give Ovechkin 2 games without giving Matt Cooke any? His hit on Savard was just as dangerous and will probably cost the same amount of games for the injured player.

NHL discipline makes no sense sometimes

Post #304 » by **timd1218** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:18 pm

ajaX82 wrote:He probably needed to get suspended, but how can you give Ovechkin 2 games without giving Matt Cooke any? His hit on Savard was just as dangerous and will probably cost the same amount of games for the injured player.

NHL discipline makes no sense sometimes

Cooke should have been suspended, but the NHL screwed it up by not suspending Richards for his hit on Booth, which was pretty much the same kind of hit. By the NHL rulebook, Cooke didn't break any of the rules.

The NHL is a joke when it comes to suspending players. Colin Campbell needs canned. Watch this hit and tell me Keith shouldn't have been suspended for his blatant elbow on Cooke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XiTS8NjNao

I'm glad the GM's voted on a head shot rule so now if Cooke, Booth, Keith and numerous other plays make hits like this, they'll be sitting out quite a few games.

Post #305 » by **Nolan** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:54 am

ajaX82 wrote:He probably needed to get suspended, but how can you give Ovechkin 2 games without giving Matt Cooke any? His hit on Savard was just as dangerous and will probably cost the same amount of games for the injured player.

NHL discipline makes no sense sometimes

I've completely lost faith in their ability to draw the line. The players/players association needs to really go after the league and get that to do something about this ****. Garbage like this has been going on for so long and now that the players aren't aloud to police themselves the problems just getting worse.

Post #306 » by **ajaX82** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:54 am

timd1218 wrote:
ajaX82 wrote:He probably needed to get suspended, but how can you give Ovechkin 2 games without giving Matt Cooke any? His hit on Savard was just as dangerous and will probably cost the same amount of games for the injured player.

NHL discipline makes no sense sometimes

Cooke should have been suspended, but the NHL screwed it up by not suspending Richards for his hit on Booth, which was pretty much the same kind of hit. By the NHL rulebook, Cooke didn't break any of the rules.

The NHL is a joke when it comes to suspending players. Colin Campbell needs canned. Watch this hit and tell me Keith shouldn't have been suspended for his blatant elbow on Cooke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XiTS8NjNao

I'm glad the GM's voted on a head shot rule so now if Cooke, Booth, Keith and numerous other plays make hits like this, they'll be sitting out quite a few games.

Yup. They set a stupid precedent with Richards and, well, followed their own precedent with the Cooke hit. At least they were consistent in their poor rulings.

The head shot rule was a good step, but they really need to be strict with it. If they keep pussyfooting around with these slaps on the wrist and 1-2 game suspensions than someone is going to be seriously, seriously injured or even killed out there. Just ask that kid who Cormier cranked what he thinks of head shots...

WEFFPIM · Post #307 » by **WEFFPIM** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:10 am

Cooke deserved to get suspended over Ovechkin. Ovie was dumb, but didn't mean to break Campbell's collar bone. Cooke intended to harm Savard.

Post #308 » by **timd1218** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:24 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:Cooke deserved to get suspended over Ovechkin. Ovie was dumb, but didn't mean to break Campbell's collar bone. Cooke intended to harm Savard.

They both deserved to be suspended. How many times do we keep saying Ovechkin didn't mean to hurt so and so. This isn't the first time he's done this. He ended Jamie Hewards career, could have ended Gonchars and Gleasons, as well as Brieres.

Ovechkin is a dirty player. There was no need for what he did to Campbell. Ovechkin wasn't even thinking about going after the puck. It was all about the hit and it didn't matter the position Campbell was in. Watch most players in that situation. They do 2 things, 1, not hit the guy because he is in a vulnerable position or 2, actually go for the puck. The same thing with his knee on knee hits. There is no need to stick out your knee. Watch other hitters in the league. When someone avoids a hit they are about the lay, the hitter just skates by. Doesn't stick out their leg. A great example happened in the Pens Lightning game the other day. Orpik went to hit Lecavalier but Lecavalier avoided the hit. Orpik didn't stick out his league. He continued throw with his missed hit.

Ovechkin is just as reckless and dirty as Matt Cooke but because Ovechkin score 50-60 goals a year, it's okay for him to do what he does, or it's okay for people to say he didn't mean to do this or that, but when it's a player like Cooke, they are garbage and meant what they did.

Post #309 » by **timd1218** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:28 pm

ajaX82 wrote:

Yup. They set a stupid precedent with Richards and, well, followed their own precedent with the Cooke hit. At least they were consistent in their poor rulings.

The head shot rule was a good step, but they really need to be strict with it. If they keep pussyfooting around with these slaps on the wrist and 1-2 game suspensions than someone is going to be seriously, seriously injured or even killed out there. Just ask that kid who Cormier cranked what he thinks of head shots...

If someone in the NHL were to actually die from a cheap hit that could have been prevented if the right suspensions were handed out previously, I would stop watching the game. Then I'd go after Colin Campbell and beat the living piss out of him for ruining the game.

I think the only way the NHL will get strict with their suspensions is if Colin Campbell is fired. The guy is a joke. It's funny how one play is suspend-able but when another player does the exact same thing, it's not. Or how they suspend someone based on results.

Post #310 » by **Nolan** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:45 am

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Yep Campbell needs to GTFO.

SportsWorld · Post #311 » by **SportsWorld** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:27 am

Worst refs I've ever seen in tonight's Hawks/Ducks game. Just unreal.

SportsWorld · Post #312 » by **SportsWorld** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:51 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy7vacK6Dzg[/youtube]

sh00n · Post #313 » by **sh00n** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:42 am

SportsWorld wrote:Worst refs I've ever seen in tonight's Hawks/Ducks game. Just unreal.

Yeah they were really bad. As a whole, the reffing this season has been the worst I've seen in the NHL. Especially when that POS Chris Lee is working.

trwi7 · Post #314 » by **trwi7** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:45 am

SportsWorld wrote:Worst refs I've ever seen in tonight's Hawks/Ducks game. Just unreal.

When did Chris Ciamaga and Jean Hebert become NHL refs?

trwi7 · Post #315 » by **trwi7** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:51 am

Just saw highlights of the Blackhawks game. LOL at the blatant cross-check that led to the GWG.

WEFFPIM · Post #316 » by **WEFFPIM** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:43 pm

Yeah, I was flipping back and forth between that and the Bucks. Never saw the Hawks score a goal, saw them get hosed on two hideous calls. Never saw the Bucks run in the 3rd, saw nothing but awful basketball.

Great night.

Post #317 » by **timd1218** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:35 pm

As Bruce Boudreau would say, the boards caused Seabrook to get destroyed like that. And it's not Wiesnieki's (SP?) fault he is stronger than Seabrook.

Anyway, how the hell was that only a 2 min penalty? That was awful. That was an intent to injury, a charging and an interference all rolled into one and he just got 2 mins. Wow. That is a 5-7 game suspension but he won't get anything.

WEFFPIM · Post #318 » by **WEFFPIM** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:18 am

It actually wound up being 5-on-5. They gave Duncan Keith a 5-minute fighting major and a 2-minute holding minor, so they matched up with Wisniewski's fighting major and charging "minor."

He's been suspended for eight games, by the way.

SportsWorld · Post #319 » by **SportsWorld** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:23 am

The NHL really isn't very consistent with their suspension lengths.

Post #320 » by **ajaX82** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:58 am

The Charging minor cracked me up... just 2 for that? Really? Not even a double minor? Or a 2 and 10? Or the intent to injure penalty?

But they went with a minor, which was classy. Hell why not give Seabrook the 2 for diving and give Anaheim a PP? refs these days....

I'm Glad the NHL sacked up and gave James 8, not that it fits any discernible pattern with regards to prior head shot punishments but at least its something