Would Utah Trade the NYK 1st?

[Bullet]

Hello everyone, Nets / Mavericks fan here.

I was wondering what you all would think of a trade that would help the Nets attain more 2010 capspace, and help the Jazz contend. Here's my basic idea:

The Nets would give Utah: Kris Humphries, the DAL 1st (currently #27) and one of our young swingmen (Chris Douglas-Roberts, Terrence Williams or Courtney Lee)

The Jazz would give part of the Harpring TPE, and the NYK 1st (currently #8).

Hi! This is Kevin O'Connor.

Would you trade your pick for the NY pick and Mehmet Okur?

[Ming Kong!]

Now that's enticing, but they can't be that nuts. We would have to get a damn center though, maybe trade our pick for a top center? Meh no one rings a bell except Howard, and maybe Bogut. But that would be like trading the #6 pick and Memo for Bogut. Hmm, probably not a bad trade considering we'd be upgrading to one of the best centers in the NBA, he's still 25yrs old and at #6 we'd probably be looking at Aldrich or some other big anyways. I guess I'm up for it. Bogut also has a long contract, which means we'd have a very good, potentially great center, for many years to come. His salary is just a little higher than Okur, so maybe we can extend Boozer, we'd probably be in the luxury tax for a season, maybe not, but it wouldn't be for long as AK comes off the books soon. The Bucks might be willing to trade for Okur and like Favors or Aminu. I don't know, but if they'd do it, I'd be up for it.

Bogut/Fesenko/Koufos
Boozer/Millsap
Kirilenko/Miles
Mathews/Korver
Williams/Price/Gaines

Hmm that would look real nice, ofcourse we need to get a few guys to fill in the roster, but that looks like a damn good team, and deep.

[Ming Kong!]

Come to think about it, that's just a horrible trade for Milwaukee. Not only would they be gambling on Okur returning, but with his constant injuries, on top of being an obvious BIG downgrade that alone makes the trade bad for Milwaukee, not to mention that you're always gambling in the draft, and Milwaukee isn't exactly home to the best draft selections in recent history.

[Bullet]

And Jazz FO won't consider it, IMO. They've proven the cap situation is more important than improving the roster. Making a deal with Milwaukee won't relieve the team of salaries. Doing a deal with NJ, on the other hand, would free up some cap space.

[DumbyTheWizard]

Obviously that deal (Kris+CDR+#27) is crap. But wouldnt you be open to trade that pick for something better? If you guys could get a legit scoring swingman for that pick would you do that?

[3960HOOD]

That deal is no bueno.. Monroe, Favors or Cousins > than Humpries, swingman and #27

[Fido]

Theoretically yes, the pick could be had. Name the legit scoring wing and then I'd tell you if I think a deal could be done. Remember, we are talking about a top 8 pick right now and what people consider a legit scoring wing is pretty open to interpretation. Not to mention the trade would need to conform to the restrictions of the CBA.

They've proven the cap situation is more important than improving the roster.

You really think so? Do you seriously believe at this point in the season the roster is "better" with Ronnie Brewer and Eric Maynor at the cost they would need to pay to have them? If so, I question your judgement. If not, I question your sincerity.

[rednecksbasketball]

Would the Jazz trade that pick: Yes.

Would the Jazz trade that pick for that buffet of turds: No. It doesn't even help them cap wise because they would would take on salary of useless players. Hump does nothing, and those wings don't do anything CJ or Matthews can't do.

Now include Brook Lopez and I think the Jazz may bite. If the Jazz do trade the pick I expect it will be for an established semi-star who the Jazz feel would put them over the top. or they'd package it with another pick to try and move up in the draft.

[Bullet]

You really think so? Do you seriously believe at this point in the season the roster is "better" with Ronnie Brewer and Eric Maynor at the cost they would need to pay to have them? If so, I question your judgement. If not, I question your sincerity.

Ronnie Brewer = 2.7M
Eric Maynor = 1.3M
Matt Harpring = 6.5M

An athletic wing, a promising rookie PG, and an expiring. That package could've been a good bait for trade for a marginal all-star (or an all-star) worth 10.5M. But all we got were the rights to some foreign player and cap relief.

But that's just me.

[erudite23]

I <3 this thread. It tells you all you need to know about RealGM.

[HammerDunk]

Remember we are over the cap, so you need to double any of those salary numbers due to the penalty. The problem I have with chalking up those trades to nothing but saving money is that I'm not the person or a person that is putting millions of my dollars on the line.

I wonder how many of you realgmers would really sacrifice 21M (that's how much it would be to have a 10.5M all star with the lux tax penalty) to make this team better. We aren't the Lakers or Dallas. The Millers don't have an endless amount of cash flow. I personally think they have done a pretty damn good job considering what they are dealing with.

I admit, I was pretty skeptical of the Brewer trade when it first went down, but he was a redundant player on this team (AK has all the skills he had + more), and Matthews has proved that he can be a powerful weapon and come through huge at times. Korver is shooting the lights out, and CJ is slowly becoming consistently better. In hindsight, this was a good trade. The Maynor and Harpring trade was also a no brainer. I'm not sure this team is that much better with Maynor as the backup PG.

Unless we get a good big man in return, trading the Knick pick at this point would be silly.

[HE Pennypacker]

Remember we are over the cap, so you need to double any of those salary numbers due to the penalty.

Just to correct you, lots of teams are over the cap. We're over the luxury tax threshold. Big difference. Not all teams who are over the cap pay luxury tax.

[Marty McFly]

i lmao'd at "nets/mavs fan here". op mad cause our **** team blew one of his out, and the other one will always be second class citizens in the tri-state area.

[Fido]

Ronnie Brewer = 2.7M
Eric Maynor = 1.3M
Matt Harpring = 6.5M

An athletic wing, a promising rookie PG, and an expiring. That package could've been a good bait for trade for a marginal all-star (or an all-star) worth 10.5M. But all we got were the rights to some foreign player and cap relief.

But that's just me.

So who is this all-star that could have been landed with this package?

And to put it in perspective, even after all the trades the Jazz still have the 8th highest payroll in the league. So that means they care more about money than improving the team?

Side note--the "big spending" trail blazers have the lowest payroll in the league. Funny how things change...

[Bullet]

And to put it in perspective, even after all the trades the Jazz still have the 8th highest payroll in the league. So that means they care more about money than improving the team?

Side note--the "big spending" trail blazers have the lowest payroll in the league. Funny how things change...

What my limited business sense tells me is that in the NBA, just like any other business, you try to acquire as much assets as you can and build up from it.

So who is this all-star that could have been landed with this package?

My answer was theoretical. The Jazz could've traded for more than one player, or a player with lesser salary for cap relief too.

P.S. I don't understand where all the "love" is coming from. I think it's pretty obvious from the Brewer and Maynor deals that the Jazz were shaving salaries. Hence, the statement "the cap situation is more important than improving the roster." Simply put, the Jazz won't do a deal which would burden it financially. A fact which a lot of you echoed.