Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

tosi · Post #101 » by **tosi** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:09 am

Kevin Durant or go home

SkywalkerAC · Post #102 » by **SkywalkerAC** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:44 am

Green
Mullins
2010 1st round pick - signed
TPE

for

Bosh

Jeffries
Ariza
Hill
Rockets 2010 pick
Knicks/Rockets 2011

That second deal is REALLY starting to grow on me. The Rockets really seem to want Bosh, and rightfully so, they'd get an elite player for disposable scraps. Bosh gets to go home (pretty much) and be the star for an AMAZING team/coach/franchise. The Raptors get back rangy athletic defenders to make the team look respectable as they rebuild (ie lose) on the fly.

I'm starting to like the sounds of Jose+Belli for Curry as well.

Jack/Banks
DD/Weems
Ariza/Hedo
Bargnani/Amir/Reggie
Hill/Curry/Alabi

Tank 2010/2011 the and work some magic with our expirings and we'd be a completely new team.

Ripp · Post #103 » by **Ripp** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:53 am

^-- Why would the Knicks move Curry for Jose? Curry's contract is more valuable.

Also, I doubt Houston would give up Ariza. Ariza specifically turned down coming to the Raps. I doubt they'd move him to a team he doesn't want to play for, especially after he agreed to sign with them for such low money.

SkywalkerAC · Post #104 » by **SkywalkerAC** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:23 am

Ripp wrote:^-- Why would the Knicks move Curry for Jose? Curry's contract is more valuable.

Also, I doubt Houston would give up Ariza. Ariza specifically turned down coming to the Raps. I doubt they'd move him to a team he doesn't want to play for, especially after he agreed to sign with them for such low money.

It would pretty much have to be Ariza or Battier to make the contracts work. Battier would be better for the Raps, being a defensive leader on an expiring. i just know that Battier is highly valued in the rockets organization.

As for Curry, I don't know whether the Knicks would be interested or not. I know they need a point guard and players period. they should be looking to move Curry before the season, to have as a big a turnaround as possible. Calderon for Curry isn't an outrageous proposal.

Ripp · Post #105 » by **Ripp** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:27 am

SkywalkerAC wrote:It would pretty much have to be Ariza or Battier to make the contracts work. Battier would be better for the Raps, being a defensive leader on an expiring. i just know that Battier is highly valued in the rockets organization.

We shall see..I think they need to keep both if they truly want to win the West next year.

As for Curry, I don't know whether the Knicks would be interested or not. I know they need a point guard and players period. they should be looking to move Curry before the season, to have as a big a turnaround as possible. Calderon for Curry isn't an outrageous proposal.

Yes it is. Calderon is a bad contract, Curry's 2011 expiring is a good one. Their GM isn't stupid enough to do that swap...I'm sure he and other GMs with big 2011 expirings observed the Houston deal and are thinking of how to pull off similar sometime before the Feb trade deadline.

You are very unlikely to move Jose for pure 2011 expirings.

SkywalkerAC · Post #106 » by **SkywalkerAC** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:40 am

i also like the idea of getting rubio somehow. fill in the team with athletic defenders and go from there.

or how about Green to Memphis (Memphis gets to let Rudy walk, save $$$)

Bosh to OKC

Thabeet, Thunder's Pick and TPE to the Raptors.

Don't know if the salaries work out but there's plenty of filler to be had.

Raps get their defensive center, a pick, and save a lot of money.

Jose/Jack
DD/Wright
Hedo/Weems
Andrea/Reggie
Thabeet/Amir

I want this kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROagZx4vsM

Post #107 » by **Harry Palmer** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:59 pm

I think some of you are going to be greatly disappointed.

raps4life~ · Post #108 » by **raps4life~** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:01 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:I think some of you are going to be greatly disappointed.

+ 1

Some of these offers a ludicrous.

mercy · Post #109 » by **mercy** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:16 pm

Some of the deals mentioned here are extremely wishful thinking.

I'm hoping we can revisit the Bynum for Bosh talks. That would be fair, IMO, and I'll be content.

Build around Bynum!

McFurious1 · Post #110 » by **McFurious1** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:52 pm

mercy wrote:Some of the deals mentioned here are extremely wishful thinking.

I'm hoping we can revisit the Bynum for Bosh talks. That would be fair, IMO, and I'll be content.

Build around Bynum!

Bynum at his age is already injury prone.

McFurious1 · Post #111 » by **McFurious1** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:53 pm

Lee, Galo & Curry's contract

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #112 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:55 pm

McFurious1 wrote:Lee, Galo & Curry's contract

only if.

Bosh + Hedo/Calderon (whichever they would prefer) for Lee + Gallo + Curry

Jack/Calderon/Banks
Derozan/Belinelli
Gallo/Weems
Lee/Evans
Bargnani/Johnson/Curry

i didnt know it was possible to get worse defensively but w.e id still do it.

dagger · Post #113 » by **dagger** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:58 pm

McFurious1 wrote:
mercy wrote:Some of the deals mentioned here are extremely wishful thinking.

I'm hoping we can revisit the Bynum for Bosh talks. That would be fair, IMO, and I'll be content.

Build around Bynum!

Bynum at his age is already injury prone.

If he wasn't injury prone, he wouldn't be in this discussion. The issue is whether the type of injuries he suffers suggest he's not the best longterm bet for LA and that from the Lakers' perspective, Bosh would be the better bet.

And I'm with Harry on this one thing: It's highly unlikely we can get solid star or likely star players in a sign and trade. Picks, raw prospects, a trade exception, expiring contracts that can leverage trades - that's far more likely. In other words, non core assets that are less certain to pan out, but which combined with our own expirings and draft picks could lay a better new foundation (just not overnight).

McFurious1 · Post #114 » by **McFurious1** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:00 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
McFurious1 wrote:Lee, Galo & Curry's contract

only if.

Bosh + Hedo/Calderon (whichever they would prefer) for Lee + Gallo + Curry

Jack/Calderon/Banks
Derozan/Belinelli
Gallo/Weems
Lee/Evans
Bargnani/Johnson/Curry

i didnt know it was possible to get worse defensively but w.e id still do it.

I'd do it... hell we get worse defensively sure, but that would mean a high draft pick, and a boat load of money to spend on someone in the 2011 free agency, which can be fixed.

raps4life~ · Post #115 » by **raps4life~** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:00 pm

To Chicago for..
Deng
Big TPE

To Miami for..
Micheal Beasley
Big TPE

To New Jersey for...
Terrence Williams
1st rounder
Big TPE

To New York for...
Wilson Chandler
1st rounder
Big TPE

dagger · Post #116 » by **dagger** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:03 pm

raps4life~ wrote:To Chicago for..
Deng
Big TPE

To Miami for..
Micheal Beasley
Big TPE

To New Jersey for...
Jeff Teague
1st rounder
Big TPE

To New York for...
Wilson Chandler
1st rounder
Big TPE

Teague does not play for New Jersey, NYK's next unencumbered pick is in 2013 and Deng? Why in the name of the Baby Jesus would we want Deng?

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #117 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:05 pm

the most realistic IMO would be.

Bosh + Hedo for Deng + Hinrich + Gibson + Picks (bulls 2011 and bobcats 2011)

Rose
Wade/Henry
Hedo/Johnson
Bosh
Noah

id ship Kirk out for Shannon Brown (S&T) + Sasha Vujacic

Jack/Calderon/Banks
Derozan/Brown/Belinelli
Deng/Weems/Sasha
Gibson/Evans
Bargnani/Johnson/Pittman(2nd rounder)

i then use Evans/Banks/Sasha at the deadline and try and get a big. Okafor? Someone like that.

raps4life~ · Post #118 » by **raps4life~** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:07 pm

dagger wrote:
raps4life~ wrote:To Chicago for..
Deng
Big TPE

To Miami for..
Micheal Beasley
Big TPE

To New Jersey for...
Jeff Teague
1st rounder
Big TPE

To New York for...
Wilson Chandler
1st rounder
Big TPE

Teague does not play for New Jersey, NYK's next unencumbered pick is in 2013 and Deng? Why in the name of the Baby Jesus would we want Deng?

Sorry, I meant T-Will. Ya forgot about NYKs pick situation. I think Deng could be pretty good here if healthy.

I think we should look at getting TPE's over anything else.

Y0DA · Post #119 » by **Y0DA** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:38 pm

Could we trade him to the Nets for John Wall and cash?

Silk Wilkes · Post #120 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:34 pm

Y0DA wrote:Could we trade him to the Nets for John Wall and cash?

If the Raps were crack dealers and the Nets were crack smokers....

Wall is a phenom, he won't be dealt for anything outside of LeBron and possible D12 to the team with the number 1 pick...