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The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#1 » by raptorsam » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:00 am

Bosh is a heartless faker who LOVES to talk a big game, but when it comes down to it, chokes and is softer than terry cloth. Dude never comes through in the 4th, has crap games when we need him, and puts up big numbers against bad teams. Im sick of him not owning up and deflecting blame, saying it is time to "turn it on" then looking completely lost out there, looking around, giving up turn overs, then just shaking his head and jogging back on D

He also demands the ball, slows the offense down, plays NO D, doesn't take it to the hole. HE IS LUCKY HE GETS BAILED OUT SO MUCH by the refs, 80% of the time he is ONLY LOOKING TO GET fouled. Where is that passion? People say that Bosh is light years better than players like Amare????? Lets get real here, You want nastiness from your Bigs, you want strike fear into your opponents. You think any of the good teams takes bosh as a serious threat? NO. While Im not saying Andrea is any better, although his contract is and would be very nice next to a intimidating Center, for bosh supposedly being one of the best players, its straight lunacy.

Say what you want, but signing bosh to a HUGE contract, with his health as well is INSANE. BC has created the softest most un-athletic team in recent memory. We are not winning ANYTHING anytime soon, especially if we commit salary cap suicide singing bosh. We need to rebuild, from the bottom up, starting from the Draft(portland, OKC ect ect), not trying to sign your way to a contender.
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Post#2 » by sanity » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:11 am

A lot of fringe-superstar players have gone through the same thing on bad teams. I've watched a lot of Suns games over the years and I'd still say he's still a better basketball player than Amar'e. He's just not a leader and has a tendency to go with the flow on a team that doesn't have a pecking order on offense nor a true system. I think if both players were switched, Amar'e would look just as big of an ass as Bosh has the last couple weeks. Not only that, he would be one to cause a fuss in the media about his free agency, as he has been doing the last 2 years.

Question: if we don't toss Bosh that money, who will we spend it on -- better yet, who would Colangelo spend it on? Thats the scary part of all this. Having a GM who will strive to win bidding wars with himself for the sake of holding onto assets rather than building a balanced team.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#3 » by timdunkit » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:11 am

O boy ... I'd hate to ask what you think of the rest of the roster if thats what u think of Bosh ...
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Post#4 » by McFurious1 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:12 am

21 million a year. Ask yourself is he worth it?
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#5 » by UstaadJi » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:18 am

How about we vent on your horrible thread?

You sound as if you just started to watch basketball, to be frank. You don't win games when your second leading scorer of the night is Antoine Wright with 15, while going 1-7. Yes, that's the recipe of success right there.

I'm sorry, but it's a 2's and 3's league. We haven't had anything close to an impact one since Carter left. How about you think before you jump to conclusions and create ridiculous posts.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#6 » by raptorsam » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:20 am

UstaadJi wrote:How about we vent on your horrible thread?

You sound as if you just started to watch basketball, to be frank. You don't win games when your second leading scorer of the night is Antoine Wright with 15.

I'm sorry, but it's a 2's and 3's league. We haven't had anything close to an impact one since Carter left. How about you think before you jump to conclusions and create ridiculous posts.


OK.... so lets throw 21 million at Bosh, great idea, with that left over cash to sign that 2 or 3 that you want, oh wait, we won't have any. Bosh's has the most inflated value in the league. I feel sorry for whoever signs him, especially with the upcoming CBA.
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Post#7 » by HEKTOR » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:30 am

So because we don't have great 2's or 3's and because it is a 2's and 3's league, Bosh is allowed to not care on the defensive end but still demand max-money?

You make it sound like Bosh has been by himself all these years. The guy has had some talent next to him, he currently has talent next to him, the fact that he still can't do much with it might say something about him being a franchise player, don't you think?
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#8 » by Jmatt12 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:31 am

raptorsam wrote:
UstaadJi wrote:How about we vent on your horrible thread?

You sound as if you just started to watch basketball, to be frank. You don't win games when your second leading scorer of the night is Antoine Wright with 15.

I'm sorry, but it's a 2's and 3's league. We haven't had anything close to an impact one since Carter left. How about you think before you jump to conclusions and create ridiculous posts.


OK.... so lets throw 21 million at Bosh, great idea, with that left over cash to sign that 2 or 3 that you want, oh wait, we won't have any. Bosh's has the most inflated value in the league. I feel sorry for whoever signs him, especially with the upcoming CBA.


Definitley. Like I said David Lee gets flak for having big numbers only b/c he is on a bad team with a offensive minded coach but Bosh (Bosh is still 100x better than Lee) is just a good player on a horrible team as well. The guy is not a Franchise player. He wants to be but he doesn't want the responsibility and the work . If we resign Bosh next year we still have the same marginal pieces that we have this year. He doesn't have the intangibles (that Kobe, Lebron and even Dwade have) to lead a team.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#9 » by UstaadJi » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:33 am

raptorsam wrote:
UstaadJi wrote:How about we vent on your horrible thread?

You sound as if you just started to watch basketball, to be frank. You don't win games when your second leading scorer of the night is Antoine Wright with 15.

I'm sorry, but it's a 2's and 3's league. We haven't had anything close to an impact one since Carter left. How about you think before you jump to conclusions and create ridiculous posts.


OK.... so lets throw 21 million at Bosh, great idea, with that left over cash to sign that 2 or 3 that you want, oh wait, we won't have any. Bosh's has the most inflated value in the league. I feel sorry for whoever signs him, especially with the upcoming CBA.


You're the same type of poster that will be crying "Bosh didn't try with us" or something of that nature when you finally see him with a legit wing player on another team..and they're winning. Bosh having the most inflated value in the league is laughable, purely laughable.

Name me a PF in this history of this game who has proven he can hold a team down with a complete lack of impact coming from 1-3. You can't and you won't even attempt it.


BTW: We'd easily be able to obtain a 2 or 3 of impact level..but B.C has handcuffed us pretty big with the horrible 3 (Jose, Bargnani and Turk). There's roughly 30 million a year tied up into that mess...good god.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#10 » by HEKTOR » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:40 am

Of course Bosh will be better with Wade or Lebron next to him. But guess what? Everyone is.

It won't be because of Bosh, but because of someone else. That's fine when you aren't demanding max-money, but he is!
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#11 » by UstaadJi » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:41 am

Jmatt12 wrote:
raptorsam wrote:
UstaadJi wrote:How about we vent on your horrible thread?

You sound as if you just started to watch basketball, to be frank. You don't win games when your second leading scorer of the night is Antoine Wright with 15.

I'm sorry, but it's a 2's and 3's league. We haven't had anything close to an impact one since Carter left. How about you think before you jump to conclusions and create ridiculous posts.


OK.... so lets throw 21 million at Bosh, great idea, with that left over cash to sign that 2 or 3 that you want, oh wait, we won't have any. Bosh's has the most inflated value in the league. I feel sorry for whoever signs him, especially with the upcoming CBA.


Definitley. Like I said David Lee gets flak for having big numbers only b/c he is on a bad team with a offensive minded coach but Bosh (Bosh is still 100x better than Lee) is just a good player on a horrible team as well. The guy is not a Franchise player. He wants to be but he doesn't want the responsibility and the work . If we resign Bosh next year we still have the same marginal pieces that we have this year. He doesn't have the intangibles (that Kobe, Lebron and even Dwade have) to lead a team.


Okay. The fact that you're comparing a power forward to 2's and 3's is very disturbing. It also shows how relatively fresh you are to the NBA. Please educated yourself before having such a strong opinion about "intangibles"

Superstar 2's and 3's determine the outcome of games because they have the ball in their hands and can do whatever they want on the court with or without it. A PF should never be asked to do this, Duncan has never..and KG has never. Sure they're the horses for their teams..but where would Duncan be without Parker or Manu, or KG without Pierce and Allen? What "intangibles" would these guys be missing if they didn't have their respective help from the wing and point positions?

Now name me wing players even close to that caliber that Bosh has had to work with. Hell, name me some pg/wing players that are even close to what KG had to work with in Minny with Spree and Cassell. I'll wait.

Do you notice that people who know a lot about basketball never compare Duncan to Kobe or KG to Wade? You're comparing wings to bigs and that's just ridiculous.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#12 » by UstaadJi » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:42 am

HEKTOR wrote:Of course Bosh will be better with Wade or Lebron next to him. But guess what? Everyone is.

It won't be because of Bosh, but because of someone else. That's fine when you aren't demanding max-money, but he is!


It's not about playing with Lebron or Wade. Let's not go to extremes, please. He hasn't even had a borderline all star wing player to work with. Let's start there first.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#13 » by dagger » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:44 am

UstaadJi wrote:
HEKTOR wrote:Of course Bosh will be better with Wade or Lebron next to him. But guess what? Everyone is.

It won't be because of Bosh, but because of someone else. That's fine when you aren't demanding max-money, but he is!


It's not about playing with Lebron or Wade. Let's not go to extremes, please. He hasn't even had a borderline all star wing player to work with. Let's start there first.


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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#14 » by McFurious1 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:45 am

UstaadJi wrote:
HEKTOR wrote:Of course Bosh will be better with Wade or Lebron next to him. But guess what? Everyone is.

It won't be because of Bosh, but because of someone else. That's fine when you aren't demanding max-money, but he is!


It's not about playing with Lebron or Wade. Let's not go to extremes, please. He hasn't even had a borderline all star wing player to work with. Let's start there first.


So this season he has no one next to him who is even remotely good?

WTF is the Bucks & Bobcats secret then?
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Post#15 » by HEKTOR » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:46 am

Oh and KG did a pretty good job, he got to the playoffs more often then Bosh did with basically nobody. And no, I'm not talking about that 2004/2005 with Sprewell and Cassell. That year he had help and they actually made it to the Western Conference finals.

Before KG made the playoffs with guys like Marbury, Gugliotta, Wally, but basically only played with each of those guys (besides Wally) for one year.

He made the playoffs more often than Bosh did and KG had less talent around him and he was in a tougher conference.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#16 » by Schad » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:47 am

McFurious1 wrote:So this season he has no one next to him who is even remotely good?

WTF is the Bucks & Bobcats secret then?


Their sh*tty players play defense. Our sh*tty players do not.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#17 » by dagger » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:48 am

UstaadJi wrote:
raptorsam wrote:
UstaadJi wrote:How about we vent on your horrible thread?

You sound as if you just started to watch basketball, to be frank. You don't win games when your second leading scorer of the night is Antoine Wright with 15.

I'm sorry, but it's a 2's and 3's league. We haven't had anything close to an impact one since Carter left. How about you think before you jump to conclusions and create ridiculous posts.


OK.... so lets throw 21 million at Bosh, great idea, with that left over cash to sign that 2 or 3 that you want, oh wait, we won't have any. Bosh's has the most inflated value in the league. I feel sorry for whoever signs him, especially with the upcoming CBA.


You're the same type of poster that will be crying "Bosh didn't try with us" or something of that nature when you finally see him with a legit wing player on another team..and they're winning. Bosh having the most inflated value in the league is laughable, purely laughable.

Name me a PF in this history of this game who has proven he can hold a team down with a complete lack of impact coming from 1-3. You can't and you won't even attempt it.


BTW: We'd easily be able to obtain a 2 or 3 of impact level..but B.C has handcuffed us pretty big with the horrible 3 (Jose, Bargnani and Turk). There's roughly 30 million a year tied up into that mess...good god.


That's a weak excuse. We're spending $70 million on players, and some teams have been known to win with a lot less, and frankly, some have even won carrying a bad contract or two. I mean our friends in LA have how much tied up in Sasha, Luke and Adam - guys who basically can't play at even scrub level but tie up like $15 million right there.

so aside from Hedo, I'm not worried. I'm certainly not fretting over Bargnani's deal like you. I mean one poster calls him our most tradeable asset and blames the failure to trade him for a big wing upgrade as the reason Bosh will leave. Can't have it both ways, you silly people.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#18 » by McFurious1 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:51 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
McFurious1 wrote:So this season he has no one next to him who is even remotely good?

WTF is the Bucks & Bobcats secret then?


Their sh*tty players play defense. Our sh*tty players do not.


But we have a "franchsie" "MAX" player shouldn't that offset everything?
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#19 » by Ripp » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:53 am

McFurious1 wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
McFurious1 wrote:So this season he has no one next to him who is even remotely good?

WTF is the Bucks & Bobcats secret then?


Their sh*tty players play defense. Our sh*tty players do not.


But we have a "franchsie" "MAX" player shouldn't that offset everything?


I don't understand how this means you can have a bunch of other players who can neither defend nor score. Otherwise...why not just save money and assemble a team of d-leaguers? Still gotta build a team, I think.
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Re: The Truth About Chris Bosh 

Post#20 » by McFurious1 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:56 am

When will some of you wake up? The same posters who say David Lee's stats are the product of the Knicks system... well say hello to Chris Bosh and the Toronto Raptors.

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