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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#961 » by donemilio21 » Mon Mar 1, 2010 10:23 pm

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TheNewEra wrote:Sooner we move Kaman the better


Agreed. Time to sell high. Depends on who we pick up in the FA market. If we can get a real star, plus Griffin, Gordon and Baron, then we can round out the cast with any stiff at center. And we'll hopefully still have DJ as well.


So should we go after Amare and then try to trade Kaman for Rip or Prince?
That wouldn't be wise IMO.
If we could sign JJ, Lebron or Wade then there wouldn't be a reason to trade Kaman. I mean could we get anyone better than Kaman? Who will be our top scorer. Please don't say DJ. Also I would like to remind you that we haven't really seen Griffin play. If he turns out to be 25ppg player then we'd be ok with a defensive oriented Center.
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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#962 » by ClipperEric » Tue Mar 2, 2010 9:39 pm

I don't expect to pick up Lebron or Wade, but Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay seem like actual possibilities. If we can do that, then we could package Kaman with other assets in a S&T (Outlaw, Butler, Blake, Craig Smith, ?) to upgrade another position. Not sure who fits in, depends on our FA signing.
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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#963 » by donemilio21 » Wed Mar 3, 2010 2:09 am

ClipperEric wrote:I don't expect to pick up Lebron or Wade, but Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay seem like actual possibilities. If we can do that, then we could package Kaman with other assets in a S&T (Outlaw, Butler, Blake, Craig Smith, ?) to upgrade another position. Not sure who fits in, depends on our FA signing.

I thought about that as well but in order to that those players have to agree on a S&T. Blake, Butler and Gooden shouldn't have trouble getting MLE deals so its gonna be very though to convince them.
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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#964 » by kombayn » Wed Mar 3, 2010 9:03 am

Personally I would have 3 options at Small Forward...

1.) Joe Johnson
2.) Rudy Gay
3.) Trevor Ariza (via trade)

I would personally like to keep this core group together and bring back a defender like Quinton Ross.

Starters: PG - B. Davis, SG - E. Gordon, SF - J. Johnson, PF - B. Griffin & C - C. Kaman
Bench: G - S. Blake, G/F - Q. Ross, F - T. Outlaw & F/C - D. Jordan

I would really like that squad with a couple draft picks and signing some veteran bench (practice) players. I would also like to see 15 men under contract that way no one is worried about being cut or traded at the beginning of the year.
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Post#965 » by donemilio21 » Wed Mar 3, 2010 9:09 am

we cant keep Outlaw and Blake or butler if we sign a player like Joe Johnson. If its Gay then we can resign one of them only. Unless they are willing to take minimum contract.
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Post#966 » by clippermitch » Wed Mar 3, 2010 4:45 pm

Trevor ariza would be nice if houston wants to dump his contract. He only makes the MLE and this will enable us to resign Blake, outlaw, smith, and gooden.

Ariza is the defender we need in the wing. Add griffin, our first round pick, and maybe another big.
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Post#967 » by loflin3hree5ive » Wed Mar 3, 2010 6:10 pm

Say no to Ariza. The last thing the Clippers need is another wingman who can't shoot.
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Post#968 » by donemilio21 » Thu Mar 4, 2010 12:23 am

loflin3hree5ive wrote:Say no to Ariza. The last thing the Clippers need is another wingman who can't shoot.

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Post#969 » by BadNFluenz » Sun Mar 7, 2010 3:26 pm

Watching many Hawks games, I can tell you, that Joe Johnson isn't a SF. Because of his size he may can play some spot minutes, but not as fulltime-SF.
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Post#970 » by scoobs07 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:55 am

I have a feeling Amare Stoudamire is going to be the free agent the Clippers end up with. The Clippers will probably draft the best player available, which could be a power forward and the Clippers still have Blake Griffin.
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Post#971 » by ClipperEric » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:19 pm

scoobs07 wrote:I have a feeling Amare Stoudamire is going to be the free agent the Clippers end up with. The Clippers will probably draft the best player available, which could be a power forward and the Clippers still have Blake Griffin.

I have a hunch it will be Bosh over Amare. Neither one will be a straight FA signing but will be S&T. I think it will include Kaman + ? to get it done.

Why Bosh over Amare?

a. PHX doesn't run a normal offense where they need a real center.
b. PHX won't want to deal to a team in the same division.

I'm also thinking 3 way with LAC/TOR/DET, where Detroit winds up with Kaman.
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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#972 » by donemilio21 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:08 pm

Not very likely but still possible considering Clippers owner Sterling is willing to open his wallet.
If Clippers strike out on Wade, Lebron and JJ and decide to sign Amare (considering he'd be available),
and If Philly wanna get the first step in rebuilding.

LAC trades Chris Kaman (2 year $25,5mil)
LAC receives Andre Iguodala (4 year $56mil)

DET trades Tayshaun Prince (1 year $11mil) and 2011 2nd round pick
DET receives Chris Kaman (2 year $25,5mil)

PHI trades Andre Iguodala (4 year $56mil)
PHI receives Tayshaun Prince (1 year $11mil) and 2011 Pistons 2nd round pick

For Clippers, they get the SF they needed for years and although not quiet a Center, Amare can sell many more seats. However, they make a big financial commitment for years to come.

Baron Davis
Eric Gordon
Andre Iguodala
Blake Griffin
Amare Stoudamire

For Detroit, they get an all-star center who can score. Huge upgrade from Kwame and Wallace. And he is a local kid. They also get to start Hamilton and Gordon togther.

Rodney Stuckey
Ben Gordon
Rip Hamilton
Jonas Jerebko
Chris Kaman

For Philly, they get out of Iguodala's big contract while getting expiring Prince fill up his gap + a draft pick as sweetner.
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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#973 » by scoobs07 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:11 am

I would hate to give up a legit back to te basket 7 footer like Kaman,but if it mean getting a poor mans LeBron (Iguodala) and getting Amare, I would be on board with that deal.

PF-Griffn
SF-Iguodala
C-Stoudamire
PG-Davis
SG-Gordan
PF/C-Jordan
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Post#974 » by mike3 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:33 am

I'm liking some of these trade ideas. Im hoping we make a big signing that will affect our team in a big positive way.
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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#975 » by Foshan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:08 am

Hey Philly fan here, I'm afraid that deal will not land you Iggy. We would not be looking to dump Iggy for $ reasons. The only way we would be looking to move him... well, quite frankly our FO is overly in love with him and I can't see us moving him for anything less than a package that blows our socks off. (which I'm not suggesting you offer).

That said, I was wondering if you guys might be interested in TYoung for your 3 of the future. He's a decent 3 pt shooter (35%), has a great work ethic so he's improving all aspects of his game. Does have a pretty good inside game. I think he'd actually pair well with Griffen at the F positions (both having some handles/outside shooting/inside games).

Davis/Gordon/Young/Griffen/Kaman

Any interest? I think our lvl of interest would be something around your pick (assuming it stays about 10), mainly if a guy like X.Henry was on the board.
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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#976 » by Sofia » Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:30 am

I'm not sure if S+T can be applied to 3 way trades, so this may be a wate but...

If we can resign Camby to 2 year $10M contract, what if do something based around:

DET receive Kaman
DET send Rip or Prince

MEM receive Rip or Prince, LAC 2011 1st
MEM send S+T Gay

LAC receive S+T Gay
LAC send Kaman, 2011 1st.

Clips 2010:
Baron / Blake resigned
EG / Butler resigned
Gay / Butler resigned
Griffin / 2010 1st round
Camby / Jordan

And still gives us about $10M cap room and the Wolves 2011 pick to play with.
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Post#977 » by SportsFan215 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:49 pm

^ Why would we give up Kaman and a future first to get Gay, when we could just try to sign him outright with our cap space? Makes no sense.
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Post#978 » by Sofia » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:35 pm

^ It gives us cap space for the future so we can pay the likes of Gordon Jordon and Blake.

Also, IF a hard cap or at least a reduced luxury tax cut off comes in, we may have to lose some of our young core thanks to our larger commitments to Baron and Kaman.

Camby can come in and continue to mentor Jordan as our C of the future. We are going to have no shortage of scorers with a 1 - 4 of Baron, Gordon, Gay, BG, so a defensive C that doesn't need touches on an increased pace offense (if that's the direction we are still going in..) to keep him interested.
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Post#979 » by SportsFan215 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:49 pm

^ I don't really want Gay that much, since I think he is going to get overpaid, and especially at the expense of Kaman and a future first. Players like Gay come around fairly frequently, while players like Kaman don't.
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Re: Los Angeles Clippers Trade Proposals Thread 

Post#980 » by ClipperEric » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:23 pm

1. Sign Bosh outright.

2. Trade Kaman + x for Boris Diaw/DJ Augustine.

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