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Post#1 » by Klomp » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:42 am

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/03/27/wolv ... is-summer/

ORLANDO – The Minnesota Timberwolves are making plans to offer enigmatic center Darko Milicic a new multi-year contract this summer when he becomes a free agent, believing they can tap the potential that others saw but never could convert consistently.


"He has provided us with something we sorely needed. He has the height and size and mobility,'' Wolves coach Kurt Rambis told FanHouse Friday. "He can play well at both ends of the floor. He gives us what we need at center. We've shown him that he could fit in well here.''

The Wolves have been using Milicic in an intriguing front-court rotation with Al Jefferson, 25, and Kevin Love, 21. Both are better suited to be power forwards, but both had been playing some center before Milicic arrived.

Rambis is the one who pushed the front-office to take Milicic from New York, even though the Knicks had soured on him. Rambis made it clear he wants him back next season. And a Timberwolves source confirmed their plans to try and re-sign him this summer.


Milicic, who is from Serbia-Montenegro, had said earlier this season in New York that this would be his last NBA season before returning to Europe to play.

He had grown increasingly frustrated after the Knicks had buried him on the end of the bench, which also had happened earlier in his career in Detroit. He was 17 years old and playing in Yugoslavia when the Pistons originally drafted him.

His tone about leaving for Europe has changed dramatically since coming to Minnesota, and he said Friday that returning to the Wolves next season was looking more likely.

"This is a good thing for me here right now. I think me and Al (Jefferson) can work well together next season,'' he told FanHouse Friday. "I've always just wanted the chance to play, and play the right way. It looks like I can get that here. They trust me. If they are going to play me this much, and have any kind of goals to be a winning team, then I would like to come back.''

The Wolves are hoping they hit bottom this season, and hoping that Milicic will be part of the turnaround next fall. They will have at least two – and probably three – first-round draft choices in June. They also are expected to have $15-$20 million of salary cap space to chase free agents. Among this free agent class, there are not many quality centers, which is another reason the Wolves will try and re-sign Milicic. They are hoping to spend much of their cap space on a wing player.

"We've told him, 'Don't judge us on what happened in your NBA past.' Make your decision based on us,'' Rambis said. "Do you like the system? Which he does. Do you like playing with these guys? And he does. He has to make that decision (if he wants to play in the NBA). I think he fits well with us.''
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Post#2 » by Diggler » Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:25 am

I haven't been this excited since we re-signed Brian Cardinal. But seriously, I like this move. Darko's young, tall, and plays solid D. Time for the Serbian Sleeper to wake up and howl.
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Post#3 » by jade_hippo » Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:44 am

this is exciting and a real downer. I'm not sure where I read it recently, but I've said it a few times "Ervin Johnson is the greatest center the Wolves have ever had... this is only great by historical comparison"
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Post#4 » by prefuse73 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:27 am

I think the best part about this is that it removes a need going into this big offseason. We had to get a skilled 7-footer who plays D this offseason and now, if this article is legit, it looks like thats off the table. Now we can put everything else towards getting much stronger wing players.

Now, what is the best fit going forward Jefferson/Darko or Love/Darko?
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Post#5 » by Narf » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:45 am

jade_hippo wrote:this is exciting and a real downer. I'm not sure where I read it recently, but I've said it a few times "Ervin Johnson is the greatest center the Wolves have ever had... this is only great by historical comparison"
Rasho'd be the best impo. Unless we're counting Jefferson last year. And while I greatly dislike him, Laettner had 17 points, 8+ boards, 1.2 blocks a game for us at center. He got worse as he got older, but he was a legitimate center for us (an average starter anyway).
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Post#6 » by Klomp » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:47 am

prefuse73 wrote:Now, what is the best fit going forward Jefferson/Darko or Love/Darko?


That's a tough question. Jefferson has showed in the past that he can be a force down low. And with Darko, he won't be asked as much to guard the opposition's best post player.

Love is still our best all-around player. He is solid in every facet of the game. However, he is not an elite go-to scorer, which we need. We also are unsure if he can handle 35+ mpg.

I'd like to believe we will keep all three. However, I'm just not sure if that is the best or smartest solution for the future of our franchise.

I think more than anything else, the possibility and likelihood of Darko staying could mean the end for Nikola Pekovic as a possible Timberwolf.
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Post#7 » by Narf » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:50 am

Klomp wrote:I think more than anything else, the possibility and likelihood of Darko staying could mean the end for Nikola Pekovic as a possible Timberwolf.
Not if we trade Jefferson.
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Post#8 » by Klomp » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:07 am

Well, it would be interesting to have a Serb and a Montenegrin on the same team...
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Post#9 » by jade_hippo » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:20 am

Klomp wrote:Well, it would be interesting to have a Serb and a Montenegrin on the same team...


ok, did you hear this one: a serb a montenegrin and a chubby white guy from UCLA walk onto a basketball court...

definately not "the Custodian's Gay Mayo Love Sessions" quality, but solid material to work with
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Post#10 » by mandurugo » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:54 pm

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Love is still our best all-around player. He is solid in every facet of the game. However, he is not an elite go-to scorer, which we need. We also are unsure if he can handle 35+ mpg.


I don't know if I can ever be convinced of this. Love is an excellent rebounder, but I still think he gets too many rebounds by breaking plays/assignments on offense and defense. For such an ineffective low post scorer he is surprisingly good at drawing fouls, that is one of his strengths. Too bad it coincides with one of his biggest weaknesses, being in the low post at all. His high post passing is over-rated, he is slow to make decisions with the ball. The rest of his offense is below solid - he is smart enough to not take many contested jumpers, but he doesn't seem able to take one if there is any defense in the area. His strength on offense still seems to be his ability on broken plays, but since I've started thinking he's one of the guys causing plays to break I'm not as impressed by this anymore. His defense is generally below mediocre - he's ok if the guy isn't mobile or too tall. Ignoring his recent tail-spin, he seems still to be very much the player Khan described - a 4th best player on a contending team. Like Jefferson he is all great strengths and great weaknesses - not the team's best all-around player and certainly not solid in every facet of the game. Of course I have been very skeptical of the guy since the beginning, so this might have affected my analysis.
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Post#11 » by collin_k41 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:17 pm

Honestly, I'd rather trade Love than Jefferson and resign Darko. Darko is somewhat of a low-post threat but he's never going to be in the same category as Al; Love won't either. As we try to gather some form of a serviceable back court a low-post scorer becomes ever more important. They can double/triple team Al now but when we have guys who can knock down jumpers say goodbye to that luxury. More important than what I think though, it what the front office thinks. I'm not so sure they feel the same way as me. Kahn wants a running team and I don't think Al fits that so he may be the one shipped out. I'm excited for this offseason though because there are so many things that need to play out:
-Darko coming back?
-Draft lottery
-Draft with 2-3 1st rounders
-Al or Love or neither traded?
-How will we fill out our back court?
-Will we sign any other free agents?

I hate not being able to watch the wolves in the summer but I can at least be confident that this will indeed be an active offseason for us.
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Post#12 » by bball_jay » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:40 pm

well i like the 3 big man rotation. in today nba you need 3 good big men with injuries and foul trouble. i think all 3 bigs bring something slightly different to the table. now with darko he kinda compensates for the other 2 defensive weakness. this will allow al to be even more dominant low post player and love to continue to improve. now neither will have to check a true center since darko will do that.
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Post#13 » by shrink » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:04 pm

What happens to Pekovic if we re-sign Darko, who takes money and big man minutes?
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Post#14 » by jpatrick » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:09 pm

This is hard for me because I think Love still has upside. As Thorpe on ESPN has said, it takes a player a couple years to learn how to play with more "explosion" after they've lost alot of weight and remade their body. I think Love has a chance to be a fringe All-Star.

With that said, Jefferson is the better fit with Milicic if we really believe Darko is the long term answer at center, which I'm not sure I think after such a short trial run. As point out, neither Darko or Love are really low post guys, they're more high post players. Jefferson gives us a low post player who can be a go to scorer.

I also think Love has more trade value because of his age, contract and Al's injury issues. It's going to be an interesting off season.
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Post#15 » by Narf » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:29 pm

Or we could just keep them both and sign Darko. And stuff.
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Post#16 » by horaceworthy » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:40 pm

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A chance encounter an Orlando fan posted on the NYK board.
Jesus Juice wrote:Oleksiy Pecherov was the other tall white dude at my table, they had me send free stuff to the other tall white guys at the other table.. who happen to be Brian Cardinal. Darko had me send free water to Brian Cardinal and tell him its from Darko, when I got to Brian he had six waters in front of him lol, he just looked at me and said let me guess from darko! He retaliate by sending Darko and Pecherov Five free loafs of bread... Brian left first and when leaving just started shouting in the street "Hey Everyone Darko is in the Building, Its F***ing Darko... quite funny..

So we bring back Cardinal to be a vet presence and he sticks our new franchise big man with a tab for 6 waters and 5 loaves of bread? The line in the sand's been drawn, players better pick their sides now, because the Custodian versus the Human Victory Cigar showdown could be epic.
"A while back,'' Cardinal said, "I took a picture of the standings and texted it to Love, just to bust his chops,'' Cardinal said. "He sent me a picture back of a snowdrift.''
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Post#17 » by cpfsf » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:13 pm

shrink wrote:What happens to Pekovic if we re-sign Darko, who takes money and big man minutes?


You give Pekovic and Darko a baseball bat and lock the doors. Whoever survives gets a contract.

I'm not sure what Pekovic's salary should be, but Darko should get 14.75 million for 3 years (about 4.9 per year). I love 3 years because we should be finished rebuilding by the end of his contract. If he likes what he sees than he can stick around. By that point he would be 28 in during the summer. Averaging 4.9 million a year isn't crazy. If we keep Gomes, he would be getting 4,235,000 and Ramon Sessions is signed for 3,964,320. I'd say that's a fair price for the hardest position to fill.

If we don't have any FA plans this summer, it would be sweet if we could offer a top heavy contracts to both Pekovic and Milicic (I'm not sure how top heavy you can make it). That could help when trying to resign Corey Brewer and Kevin Love.
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Post#18 » by Dan's with the Wolves » Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:00 am

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Love is still our best all-around player. He is solid in every facet of the game. However, he is not an elite go-to scorer, which we need. We also are unsure if he can handle 35+ mpg.



He is a weak defender in my opinion. Great rebounder but weak defender. Can't block shots. He can't finish inside. Good open jump shooter/free throw shooter. I would argue that Brewer and Darko are better two way players. Trade him for an ultra atheltic SF/PF to replace Gomes.
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Post#19 » by Breakdown777 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:41 am

- I don't think trading Al or Love if we get Darko is necessary. If Love can't play 35+min's, it's not a problem with Darko and Al around.
- I still want a lanky and athletic 3/4, and some jump shooter/defenders
- We could possibly have 3 1st rounds, but also 3 2nd rounders if I'm not mistaken. 6 picks is quite a few!
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Post#20 » by Klomp » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:44 pm

Breakdown777 wrote:- I don't think trading Al or Love if we get Darko is necessary.


But Pekovic would be.
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