Jan Vesely

pad300 · Post #21 » by **pad300** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:23 am

The reason for the hype about this guy is simple. How many 6'10+ small forwards are there in the league (not perimeter PF's)? It makes for one hell of a mismatch, if the guy can actually play SF. Vesely so far, is playing exclusively as an SF... Yes, he has a ways to go with both body development (he could really use another 3 years in the weight room), and skill development (yeah, he's shooting 45% from the three in Euroleague, but the term "small sample size" comes to mind); but so far, so good. He's also shown a really good attitude wrt to hustle, motor, and willingness to fight, even against bigger, stronger players...

SF's in the L who are 6'10+ : Durant, T-Mac (maybe), AK-47 (an inch short), Tayshaun Prince (an inch or two short...), Jared Jeffries (really a PF)

Even at the bottom end of that list, it's still decent, usable players...What is going to drop his stock is that he is under contract until 2013, without a buyout. Which team is willing to wait that long, particularly with the uncertainty of what a new CBA might do to signing him, when you will have to compete with Euro teams (Pathnaikos, CKSA, Real Madrid...).

Edit, Forgot about Hedo Turkoglu, who is a decent player, if a might overpaid...

brassviews · Post #22 » by **brassviews** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:56 am

NetsForce wrote:Vesley is not a lot tougher than Smith or Stoudemire o_O... It's not even close actually... Truth be told athletically he doesn't compare to either one of them either...

He is an intriguing prospect in that he's a foreign player capable of playing above the rim but let's not get carried away here...

Just stick to the Nets forum.

NetsForce · Post #23 » by **NetsForce** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:23 pm

brassviews wrote:Just stick to the Nets forum.

Does the truth hurt that badly? :lol:

Vesely might go around pumping himself up more than Amar'e and Smith but in terms of toughness he's on a few tiers below. In terms of athleticism he has a good vertical but not much of a long jump, so he's similar to Joe Alexander in that regard.

Don't even get me started on his alarmingly bad rebounding...

sisibilio · Post #24 » by **sisibilio** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:30 pm

Amare is anything but tough.

NetsForce · Post #25 » by **NetsForce** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:58 pm

sisibilio wrote:Amare is anything but tough.

You're right in that he's rather passive defensively, but offensively when he's taking it to the rim I'd have to disagree.

Amar'e attacks the rim with the type of fury and power that Jan Vesely can only dream of.

Foye · Post #26 » by **Foye** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:40 pm

Basically, Ryan Hollins playing SF. :rofl:

Just kidding.

I think the change from Euro basketball to the NBA will be hard for him. He'll be a long term prospect like Bargnani is/was. I wouldn't pick him in the lottery if I was a team desperate in need for talent or wanting to get back to the playoffs sooner than later.

I could see him being drafted by my Wolves with Charlotte's pick. He would be an excellent pick at like #16 or #17. Just like it's in Rubio's case it wouldn't matter if he came over right away or stays a year because the team is a work in progress.

BadWolf · Post #27 » by **BadWolf** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:15 pm

will he come to nba this year?

Jazzfan12 · Post #28 » by **Jazzfan12** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:35 pm

BadWolf wrote:will he come to nba this year?

Probably not until the 2012-2013 season.

BadWolf · Post #29 » by **BadWolf** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:02 pm

so who's ready to wait 2 years for a risky European pick? In the lottery?

JustMagic · Post #30 » by **JustMagic** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:30 pm

BadWolf wrote:so who's ready to wait 2 years for a risky European pick? In the lottery?

Hmmm... The Jazz might, maybe the Bulls or a team like Portland/Spurs might trade up to pick him.

and what exactly more "risky" about him than any other draft prospect (besides maybe waiting 2 year that is)? the fact that he is european??? He is the 4th/5th most important player on a top 8 (maybe top4) Euroleague team.

Jazzfan12 · Post #31 » by **Jazzfan12** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:35 pm

Apparently Morey is watching Vesely play today.

Canomad · Post #32 » by **Canomad** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:29 am

that boy is frail. it would be shocking to see him maintain that level of athleticism he has after adding another 35 pounds which he clearly needs.

KG_Wolves · Post #33 » by **KG_Wolves** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:09 am

I read on draftexpress.com that Vesely's people are pulling for him to play in the NBA right away.
I am hoping we can draft him with Charlotte's pick(in the midteens) and using as a Small Forward.

Canomad · Post #34 » by **Canomad** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:10 pm

from the footage ive seen of him, and last night i watched everything i could find hes definitally quick enough to guard small forwards. i cant see him as a pf though. size comparison wise he built like durant(just dize not game). hes very quick also and showed some decent ball handling skills.

JustMagic · Post #35 » by **JustMagic** » Thu Apr 1, 2010 7:36 am

His shoulders are wider than Durant's, so I think he'll be able to gain weight more easily.

Krimzen · Post #36 » by **Krimzen** » Sat Apr 3, 2010 9:23 am

On a podcast posted on draftexpress, Givony compared him to a taller/longer Omri Casspi with more upside. Like most here in the states, I can't say that I have seen much of Vesely myself. What little I have seems to indicate it is a better comparison than some of the others I have heard.

kobyz · Post #37 » by **kobyz** » Sat Apr 3, 2010 2:02 pm

to me he look like a bigger Thaddeus Young

Pepe LePew · Post #38 » by **Pepe LePew** » Fri Apr 9, 2010 10:59 pm

Poor man Pau Gasol period.

Jimmy76 · Post #39 » by **Jimmy76** » Fri Apr 9, 2010 11:04 pm

Pepe LePew wrote:Poor man Pau Gasol period.

I don't get this comparison at all

he's an entirely different player

9abovetherim · Post #40 » by **9abovetherim** » Fri Apr 9, 2010 11:14 pm

Rich man Mike Dunleavy period.