Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

[CreaM]

brook lopez+john wall for bosh. NJN then signs Lebron.

They wouldnt even trade Brook lopez alone for Bosh.

[McFurious1]

Is it common belief that Bynum would be off limits?

I don't think so. Acquiring Bosh assures them being clear cut favorites for a long time.

Building around Bynum is a great idea. He's only 22 and will only get better.

Or worse.... he's got foot problems as a big man who's only 22 very very VERY risky to bank the future on.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

I'd like to trade Bosh for Prince, Maxiell and their 1st, in a pre-arranged deal on draft-day with us telling them who to select, but not signing them and completing the deal in July- or sign them and wait a month if we need the contract to make the numbers work. If we could come away with smart hustle players who can D up, plus Ed Davis or Cole Aldrich, that would be amazing. Bargnani gives us the flexibility of trading for a PF or C, as long as they hustle, help and can move. Getting Jerebko also would be sweet, but that may be too much to ask.

I think Bosh would dig Detroit, who probably are not interested in rebuilding considering their contracts and fanbase. We'd still have Banks' and Evans' expirings, along with Jack's and Weems' attractive deals to trade for a vet two-way SG with one or two years left on his deal.

Too much? Too little?

[EventHorizon]

I believe Bynum is not someone you build around and neither is Bargnani. They are good second bananas, but this team will need a traditional wing to carry us to the promised land.

[BD12]

Sign and trade possible with the Hawks?

I'd love to see Zaza Pachulia, Maurice Evans (cheaper and 100x better than Antoine Wright), Josh Childress, or Marvin Williams on the Raps.

Bosh gets to go back to Georgia, Josh Smith moves back to his natural position (SF). I think it would be great for both teams

[dagger]

I believe Bynum is not someone you build around and neither is Bargnani. They are good second bananas, but this team will need a traditional wing to carry us to the promised land.

That has some truth to it, but since this won't happen overnight, you put in the best pieces possible while looking through the draft or a series of trades over a couple of years to make that happen.

[Yuri Vaultin]

Yao and picks for Bosh? That is a risky move, given Yao's injuries but certainly one that could reap insane rewards.

[gerrit4]

I'd like to trade Bosh for Prince, Maxiell and their 1st, in a pre-arranged deal on draft-day with us telling them who to select, but not signing them and completing the deal in July- or sign them and wait a month if we need the contract to make the numbers work. If we could come away with smart hustle players who can D up, plus Ed Davis or Cole Aldrich, that would be amazing. Bargnani gives us the flexibility of trading for a PF or C, as long as they hustle, help and can move. Getting Jerebko also would be sweet, but that may be too much to ask.

I think Bosh would dig Detroit, who probably are not interested in rebuilding considering their contracts and fanbase. We'd still have Banks' and Evans' expirings, along with Jack's and Weems' attractive deals to trade for a vet two-way SG with one or two years left on his deal.

Too much? Too little?

Not sure if Bosh agrees to go to Detroit. They are arguably in the worst position in the league right now. Bad contracts, not a bad enough record to get a good draft pick. And the city of Detroit is no Miami or LA...

[SkywalkerAC]

I wonder how much Riley would even be interested in Bosh. I guess he might be the type of guy that might thrive (defensively) under that kind of culture. offensively you'd be able to eat teams alive with a Wade/Bosh pick and roll but Wade already kills on his own.

I'm just trying to get a hold on what Miami might offer. i don't think it's too much to ask for Beasley and a pick (two would but i could live with one). then we could flip the TPE for a guy like Biedrins, or Thabeet+Jaric would be ideal.

Jose/Jack
DD/Weems
Beasley/Hedo
Bargs/Reggie
Thabeet/Amir

we'd still have a first rounder, our exceptions (the MLE would be intact, no?), and loads of expirings for 2011.

hell, sign Dampier with part of the MLE, draft Robinson to give us an extra dimension of athleticism and y'know what? we'd have a damn good team.

not going to happen but that's the best semi-realistic squad i can come up with, it wouldn't be cheap but it would be big and strong and competitive while still being young and exciting.

Jose/Jack/Banks
DD/Weems/Bellinelli/Jaric
Beasley/Hedo/Robinson
Bargnani/Reggie
Dampier/Thabeet/Amir

[SkywalkerAC]

Or can you package TPEs? 12 mill TPE from Bosh for Beas trade + Banks for Elton Brand and Philly midrange lotto pick.

Select Wes Johnson and get running.

I'm starting to think that this is a time to be a buyer. A lot of teams have shed salary and are having their spending restricted by the salary cap. There are going to teams looking to sell picks, expensive players, so the TPE might be the perfect tool to acquire young talent AND pricey veterans at the same time. Use the MLE too, there's a good change you won't be paying out on it for most of 2011.

Jose/Jack
DD/Weems/Belli
Wes Johnson/Hedo
Beasley/Brand/Reggie
Bargnani/Amir


Another team to target with the TPE is Indiana, who are going to pay a lot of luxury tax if they don't shed salary. Take their draft pick and Mike Dunleavy and we save them over 20 m (pretty sure that's a reasonable estimate).

Lots of options out there for Bosh, even if we don't get much more than the TPE.

**** rebuilding. Retool and spend, spend, spend while we still can. Play above the cap and give yourself a chance to win it.

[SkywalkerAC]

or if you want a really tankalicious move -

trade Bosh and Jose

for

Eddy Curry and Gallinari and ~$12 mill TPE.

Take Dunleavy and the Pacers pick in return for the TPE.

Tank 2010/11 and come into the era of the 2011 CBA with a rebuilt team (2 to 3 years in a row of high lotto picks) with cap space.

That would be one ugly team next year though.

Jack/Banks
DD/Weems/Belli
Galli/Hedo
Bargs/Amir/Reggie
Curry/(Cousins, Favors, Alrdrich?)

[DowJones]

How about Bosh to Cleveland in a 3-team trade where Toronto gets Tyson Chandler and JJ Hickson while Charlotte gets Antawn Jamison?

[AllKnowingNBAer]

When it comes to young quality talent, we can all agree that the best possible trading partner is the Oklahoma Thunder.

Durant has been pushing for this year's top free agents to sign in OKC, and who better than Bosh to fill their void at the 4/5 spot. With Bosh on their team, paired up with Durant and Westbrook, they will be perrenial contenders for the next decade.

Toronto Trades:
-Chris Bosh

Toronto receives:
-James Harden
-Serge Ibaka
-OKC's 2010 first round pick
-Nick Collison (filler)
-Kyle Weaver (young filler)

OKC will not part with Durant or Westbrook, and I'm not convinced that Jeff Green is a piece the Raptors need for the future since DeRozan is our future 3. Getting back Harden (who is arguably just as talented as DeRozan) to create a future swingman tandem of Harden-DeRozan, along with a very talented big man in Serge Ibaka (who has shown some really good flashes already), looks like a good return on an outgoing free agent. The Raps can continue to receive more pieces in the draft for the following two years, and then use the expirings to put together a trade on another team just as OKC is doing to us.

[SDM]

I like trading with OKC, definitely. I'd ask for a second first rounder though. Westbrook/Durant/Green/Bosh is a very scary lineup, so the 2012 pick should be in the 25+ range.

[HMFFL]

When it comes to young quality talent, we can all agree that the best possible trading partner is the Oklahoma Thunder.

Durant has been pushing for this year's top free agents to sign in OKC, and who better than Bosh to fill their void at the 4/5 spot. With Bosh on their team, paired up with Durant and Westbrook, they will be perrenial contenders for the next decade.

Toronto Trades:
-Chris Bosh

Toronto receives:
-James Harden
-Serge Ibaka
-OKC's 2010 first round pick
-Nick Collison (filler)
-Kyle Weaver (young filler)

OKC will not part with Durant or Westbrook, and I'm not convinced that Jeff Green is a piece the Raptors need for the future since DeRozan is our future 3. Getting back Harden (who is arguably just as talented as DeRozan) to create a future swingman tandem of Harden-DeRozan, along with a very talented big man in Serge Ibaka (who has shown some really good flashes already), looks like a good return on an outgoing free agent. The Raps can continue to receive more pieces in the draft for the following two years, and then use the expirings to put together a trade on another team just as OKC is doing to us.

The only starting position OKC has a need at is the 5, so that should be their focus.

Sam Presti can just sign Chris Bosh to a max contract if he wants him bad enough, but I would think Chris prefers a S&T so he can max out his earnings, and Mr. Presti won't trade all those pieces for Chris. I doubt Chris Bosh would want to play and live part-time in OKC.

[timdunkit]

This is a bit far fetched but who cares ...

1) Raptors SnT Chris Bosh to OKC for Jeff Green/First round pick + TPE that is created

2) Raptors use TPE to suck in Peja from NO.

3) CP3/Posey/Okafor for Banks/Reggie/DD/2 first picks/Jose/Belinelli (think raptors might need to add a piece to get salaries to work). Resign Amir and Antoine Wright and Rasho for the min.

CP3/Jack
Weems/Wright/Posey
Green/Hedo/ Peja
Bargnani/Amir
Okafor/Rasho

[AllKnowingNBAer]

When it comes to young quality talent, we can all agree that the best possible trading partner is the Oklahoma Thunder.

Durant has been pushing for this year's top free agents to sign in OKC, and who better than Bosh to fill their void at the 4/5 spot. With Bosh on their team, paired up with Durant and Westbrook, they will be perrenial contenders for the next decade.

Toronto Trades:
-Chris Bosh

Toronto receives:
-James Harden
-Serge Ibaka
-OKC's 2010 first round pick
-Nick Collison (filler)
-Kyle Weaver (young filler)

OKC will not part with Durant or Westbrook, and I'm not convinced that Jeff Green is a piece the Raptors need for the future since DeRozan is our future 3. Getting back Harden (who is arguably just as talented as DeRozan) to create a future swingman tandem of Harden-DeRozan, along with a very talented big man in Serge Ibaka (who has shown some really good flashes already), looks like a good return on an outgoing free agent. The Raps can continue to receive more pieces in the draft for the following two years, and then use the expirings to put together a trade on another team just as OKC is doing to us.

The only starting position OKC has a need at is the 5, so that should be their focus.

Sam Presti can just sign Chris Bosh to a max contract if he wants him bad enough, but I would think Chris prefers a S&T so he can max out his earnings, and Mr. Presti won't trade all those pieces for Chris. I doubt Chris Bosh would want to play and live part-time in OKC.

First of all, if Sam Presti wants Bosh, it will have to be a sign-and-trade. Bosh isn't going anywhere without that sixth year. So, Sam definitely will not have the option to simply sign Bosh outright, and will have to work with the Raps to make a deal work.

After that, Sam Presti has to compete with the rest of the league for Bosh's services, meaning he will have to provide a decent package in a sign and trade. Sure, Bosh could influence this by shortlisting where he wants to go, but if there is no Harden or Ibaka in this deal, then by no means are the Raptors obliged to trade Bosh to OKC. If he really wants to go there, then he will have to surrender the money (which he won't).

A package of Harden and Ibaka is definitely fair value. With a trio of Bosh, Durant, and Westbrook, (not to mention Jeff Green) you could fill the rest of the roster with scrubs and it will still contend. No way Presti messes around with the opportunity to snag Bosh by trying to give less to the Raps.

Not only that, but would Harden really want to stay on a team where he would be the fifth option?

I say OKC does this deal. The Raps should do it too if they choose the rebuild route.

[ATLTimekeeper]

To Chicago for Taj Gibson, rights to Omer Asik, James Johnson, Charlotte's future 1st, TPE.

Gives us some more athleticism and defense, and a couple of future interests. We can let the TPE burn for all I care, but it might be a feather to hang onto at the deadline with our expirings.

[OAKLEY_2]

To Chicago for Taj Gibson, rights to Omer Asik, James Johnson, Charlotte's future 1st, TPE.

Gives us some more athleticism and defense, and a couple of future interests. We can let the TPE burn for all I care, but it might be a feather to hang onto at the deadline with our expirings.

That would be a home run for the Raptors in terms of young package. Bulls fans think Gibson is the second coming so who knows if he were ever to be dangled. If Bosh leaves we have Amir, providing he is resigned, Evans and Bargnani all technically power forwards, James Johnson can play small forward so he's good but Gibson means you do not sign Amir. I'd rather stick with Amir. Two firsts Asik, James Johnson TPE more like it.

[panthermark]

To Chicago for Taj Gibson, rights to Omer Asik, James Johnson, Charlotte's future 1st, TPE.

Gives us some more athleticism and defense, and a couple of future interests. We can let the TPE burn for all I care, but it might be a feather to hang onto at the deadline with our expirings.

Bulls fan here...

I have to ask....why would Chicago trade assets for Bosh? Unless Chicago is working on trying to get two major FA's, there is no need to make such a move.

"If" he chooses Chicago, he would be S&T'd for a TPE and a conditional future 2nd rounder. Same as Rashard Lewis. No other assets would be involved.

As far as what is best (and realistic) for the Raptors...I would say OKC has the best mix of assets and cap room. Probably a future first rounder, Nick Collison, and the TPE created. Remember, if Bosh does choose to leave, he isn't going to want to see him new team gutted.

The reality on the ground is that it is bad for the Raptors (in the long run) if BC tries to hold out on Bosh over a 6th year if Bosh does deceide to leave....especially to a team that can sign him as a FA. You don't tick off players, agents, and other GM's like that. The NBA goes beyond July of 2010, and it would be short-sighted to not see that.