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LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010

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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#81 » by YaoZaii » Wed Apr 7, 2010 6:55 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:
joeyyowee wrote:I think all of us already knew that Lowry is the better fit for this team. AB to this team is like how Martin was to the Kings. Great player but not a good fit.


Myth, AB spreads the floor for Yao, can be a closer for the team when Yao gets fronted, what exactly does Lowry bring other than his defense? Lowry pushes the tempo off the bench, his impact will be reduced in a half-court set.



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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#82 » by Aaron Brooks » Wed Apr 7, 2010 7:16 am

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Aaron Brooks wrote:
joeyyowee wrote:I think all of us already knew that Lowry is the better fit for this team. AB to this team is like how Martin was to the Kings. Great player but not a good fit.


Myth, AB spreads the floor for Yao, can be a closer for the team when Yao gets fronted, what exactly does Lowry bring other than his defense? Lowry pushes the tempo off the bench, his impact will be reduced in a half-court set.



AB finally showing his closet discontent of his mate Lowry. hehe


I think Lowry is a borderline starter in this league, but his lack of even a spot of 3 point shot really hurts his cause. I love his energy and tenacity but sometimes he gets a little carried away with being too active on defense and picking up stupid fouls.
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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#83 » by Joseph17 » Wed Apr 7, 2010 7:55 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:
joeyyowee wrote:I think all of us already knew that Lowry is the better fit for this team. AB to this team is like how Martin was to the Kings. Great player but not a good fit.


Myth, AB spreads the floor for Yao, can be a closer for the team when Yao gets fronted, what exactly does Lowry bring other than his defense? Lowry pushes the tempo off the bench, his impact will be reduced in a half-court set.

The only thing the Rockets need out of the pg position is a distributor who can hit open shots and play defense. The Rockets already have perimeter scorers in Budinger and Martin. They really won't need Brooks' scoring with Yao, Bosh (hopefully), and Martin. There's only one ball to go around and a pass first pg is the only answer. I love Brooks, but I can't see him coexisting with all of the Rockets scorers. I think Brooks would be at his best playing next to a guy like Livingston.
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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#84 » by Joseph17 » Wed Apr 7, 2010 7:58 am

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I think Lowry is a borderline starter in this league, but his lack of even a spot of 3 point shot really hurts his cause. I love his energy and tenacity but sometimes he gets a little carried away with being too active on defense and picking up stupid fouls.

Is his shot really that bad? He seems to shoot a lot of 3s for a guy who can't shoot. He had 8 three point attempts against Indiana.
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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#85 » by Rendezvous » Wed Apr 7, 2010 1:30 pm

Aaron Brooks wrote:Morey's Twitter said
Gr8 shots tonight.AB/KL/KM set up teammates well.Won trans pts 52-40.Lift from JJ/JH/CH on boards.33 FTA-excited for KM/KL/Yao combo next yr


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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#86 » by Aaron Brooks » Wed Apr 7, 2010 2:53 pm

joeyyowee wrote:
Aaron Brooks wrote:
joeyyowee wrote:I think all of us already knew that Lowry is the better fit for this team. AB to this team is like how Martin was to the Kings. Great player but not a good fit.


Myth, AB spreads the floor for Yao, can be a closer for the team when Yao gets fronted, what exactly does Lowry bring other than his defense? Lowry pushes the tempo off the bench, his impact will be reduced in a half-court set.

The only thing the Rockets need out of the pg position is a distributor who can hit open shots and play defense. The Rockets already have perimeter scorers in Budinger and Martin. They really won't need Brooks' scoring with Yao, Bosh (hopefully), and Martin. There's only one ball to go around and a pass first pg is the only answer. I love Brooks, but I can't see him coexisting with all of the Rockets scorers. I think Brooks would be at his best playing next to a guy like Livingston.


Yao Bosh Martin will be the softest trio in the league, not to mention the most injury prone. We trade away our 2 ironmen in Brooks and Scola? Bosh isn't even a NEED, hes more of a luxury. As for Lowry, have you seen him in half-court situations? he bulldozes his way into the paint, you know? the area which will be occupied by Yao next season?
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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#87 » by pretender_2002 » Wed Apr 7, 2010 4:47 pm

joeyyowee wrote:
Aaron Brooks wrote:
I think Lowry is a borderline starter in this league, but his lack of even a spot of 3 point shot really hurts his cause. I love his energy and tenacity but sometimes he gets a little carried away with being too active on defense and picking up stupid fouls.

Is his shot really that bad? He seems to shoot a lot of 3s for a guy who can't shoot. He had 8 three point attempts against Indiana.


Yes he is just that bad at the 3 point land... he is currently shooting 28% from 3-pt land this season and is a career 26%. Also as the other poster said we need people who can spread the floor and draw defense away from Yao. We need someone who can shoot the ball and play some defense on the other end. Neither Lowry nor AB fit that however with help defense at the other positions I think we can handle having AB in the rotation. One thing i think people fail to realize is those offensive droughts we had always gotten in that lost us the game. The reason we had those is because of guys who just can't shoot the ball. Also if you expect lowry to draw a ton of fouls where does that leave Martin? I mean how many FTA per game can we get?
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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#88 » by moofs » Wed Apr 7, 2010 4:47 pm

Not worried about Lowry. He did MUCH better last year than this one, looks like. Maybe it's just me...

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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#89 » by Optimism Prime » Wed Apr 7, 2010 5:01 pm

pretender_2002 wrote:
joeyyowee wrote:
Aaron Brooks wrote:
I think Lowry is a borderline starter in this league, but his lack of even a spot of 3 point shot really hurts his cause. I love his energy and tenacity but sometimes he gets a little carried away with being too active on defense and picking up stupid fouls.

Is his shot really that bad? He seems to shoot a lot of 3s for a guy who can't shoot. He had 8 three point attempts against Indiana.


Yes he is just that bad at the 3 point land... he is currently shooting 28% from 3-pt land this season and is a career 26%. Also as the other poster said we need people who can spread the floor and draw defense away from Yao. We need someone who can shoot the ball and play some defense on the other end. Neither Lowry nor AB fit that however with help defense at the other positions I think we can handle having AB in the rotation. One thing i think people fail to realize is those offensive droughts we had always gotten in that lost us the game. The reason we had those is because of guys who just can't shoot the ball. Also if you expect lowry to draw a ton of fouls where does that leave Martin? I mean how many FTA per game can we get?



Being bad at three-point shooting is only a problem if you continue to take them. Look at Josh Smith. Career... hell, I don't even know, but it'd be negative if possible 3P% shooter. Stopped shooting them this year, and guess what! His efficiency shot up! If Lowry focuses on mid-range and driving/getting foul calls, and only takes one desperation three a game, I'm totally fine with that, no matter what his %.

Basically, here's my stance on player development: play to your strengths in a game, work on your weaknesses in practice. If Lowry practices and develops a reliable 3-point shot, good for him! But I don't want to see him try it in game time until he's money.

As far as your last point--the hope is a lot. Morey's on record saying that a big part of why Martin was brought in was his ability to get to the line and put the Rockets in the bonus. Especially when we have one of the most efficient FT-shooting bigs in history.
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Re: LOTTERY COUNTDOWN: Rockets vs. Grizz 4/6/2010 

Post#90 » by HTown_TMac » Wed Apr 7, 2010 7:23 pm

Teckon wrote:Morey is referring to the FTA of that combo KL/KM/Yao. Lowry is better at drawing foul than AB.


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Post#91 » by x- » Wed Apr 7, 2010 8:15 pm

Optimism Prime wrote:Being bad at three-point shooting is only a problem if you continue to take them. Look at Josh Smith. Career... hell, I don't even know, but it'd be negative if possible 3P% shooter. Stopped shooting them this year, and guess what! His efficiency shot up! If Lowry focuses on mid-range and driving/getting foul calls, and only takes one desperation three a game, I'm totally fine with that, no matter what his %.

Basically, here's my stance on player development: play to your strengths in a game, work on your weaknesses in practice. If Lowry practices and develops a reliable 3-point shot, good for him! But I don't want to see him try it in game time until he's money.

As far as your last point--the hope is a lot. Morey's on record saying that a big part of why Martin was brought in was his ability to get to the line and put the Rockets in the bonus. Especially when we have one of the most efficient FT-shooting bigs in history.


No it's not and you can't compare a PG with a PF.

You want to space the floor with shooters when Yao is on the floor. That why it's important that Lowry is able to knock down 3's consistently. You want teams to pay the price when they double Yao. 3pointers and shots in the paint are two high quality shots you want your players to take. Long twos and mid-range jumpers not so much.
I woudn't say Lowry is a bad long range shooter per se, but he's streaky/inconsistent and it's not like he's money from mid-range either.
It seems like he's improving, but right now he's just not enough of a threat to be called a better fit/complement in the starting five.

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