Michael Beasley

[Lord Leoshes]

If your a ball domiante scorer how do you play to your potential when you don't have the ball.

Learn to play off the ball? Improve to the point where it's in your team's best interest to give you the ball?

So what your saying is basically change your game?

[notahater]

If your a ball domiante scorer how do you play to your potential when you don't have the ball.

Learn to play off the ball? Improve to the point where it's in your team's best interest to give you the ball?

So what your saying is basically change your game?

So what your saying is Beasley can't ever play with another good player that needs the ball? A team has to completely gut their roster and make Beasley the "man" in order for him to be effective?

[Lord Leoshes]

lol at the idea that Beasley has the talent required..

People please stop with that nonsense.

Dude is a 6'7 tweener with average quickness, average bball IQ and an average motor. I still crack up at the Derrick Coleman physical tool set comparisons during the Beasley draft hype.

Dude is a 6-8 1/2 multi talented, versatile player that can post up SF, & is way to fast for PF to keep up with him. Is only 21 years old, in his 2nd year & has improved his defense in leaps & bounds, & is learning everyday more, & more about the overall team concept.

[I Never Lied]

This topic was completely unnecessary.

Beasley sucks right now, everyone can agree on that, what more is there to be said?

We all know Beasley sucks, but the reason why the discussion continues is because you have smart people and stupid people arguing about WHY Beasley sucks.


Stupid People: Yes Beasley is playing bad right now but if not for his coach, Wade, Udonis and the Heat system; Beasley would easily shoot 50% and put up about 23/10. Its everyone else’s fault except Beasley's that he's playing poorly right now. I mean c'mon, Beasley has Jennings like speed, Josh Smith explosiveness, Mo Williams shooting touch and Amare' size with Paul Milsap strength. Dude is a 6'9 multi talented, versatile player that can post up SF, & is way too fast for PF to keep up with him. You saw what he did at Kansas State.


Smart People: Beasley is 6'7 with average quickness, average bball IQ and an average motor who plays on the perimeter, so with that alone he is almost guaranteed to shoot a low percentage. He has physical limitations, and even though it doesn't stare at you in the face all signs point to him having problems mentally as well.

It's also time to throw out the excuses that he's not in a good environment to develop. Wade's game does not interfere with any type of frontcourt players. Would anyone say that Wade hindered the efficiency of James Posey, Antoine Walker, or Alonzo Mourning? Is Beasley not the second best player on this team? If the answer to both is no, then that means he can develop into a legit 2nd option if he was ever capable, but all these talks about how Beasley can't become that player on this Heat team, a team that has Wade and a bunch of nobodies, a team that starts a washed up JO and Udonis Haslem at the front, is downright laughable.



So there you have it, some people just don’t know enough about basketball point blank to figure out why Beasley is so average.

[Lord Leoshes]

So what your saying is Beasley can't ever play with another good player that needs the ball? A team has to completely gut their roster and make Beasley the "man" in order for him to be effective?

What im saying?

Where in the hell did you get all the crap from? Please show me where i said all that crap? :

So i guess Wade go's to another team with a different system, then he should change his game & become a 3 point specialist, cause that's what that team might need from him?

If a players strong points are driving why in hell would you want him to become a shooter, & vise versus. You play your players to their strengths, not their weakness.

[Lord Leoshes]

This topic was completely unnecessary.

Beasley sucks right now, everyone can agree on that, what more is there to be said?

We all know Beasley sucks, but the reason why the discussion continues is because you have smart people and stupid people arguing about WHY Beasley sucks.


Smart People: Yes Beasley is playing bad right now but if not for his coach, Wade, Udonis and the Heat system; Beasley would easily shoot 50% and put up about 23/10. Its everyone else’s fault except Beasley's that he's playing poorly right now. I mean c'mon, Beasley has Jennings like speed, Josh Smith explosiveness, Mo Williams shooting touch and Amare' size with Paul Milsap strength. You saw what he did at Kansas State.


Stupid People: Beasley is 6'7 with average quickness, average bball IQ and an average motor who plays on the perimeter, so with that alone he is almost guaranteed to shoot a low percentage. He has physical limitations, and even though it doesn't stare at you in the face all signs point to him having problems mentally as well.

It's also time to throw out the excuses that he's not in a good environment to develop. Wade's game does not interfere with any type of frontcourt players. Would anyone say that Wade hindered the efficiency of James Posey, Antoine Walker, or Alonzo Mourning? Is Beasley not the second best player on this team? If the answer to both is no, then that means he can develop into a legit 2nd option if he was ever capable, but all these talks about how Beasley can't become that player on this Heat team, a team that has Wade and a bunch of nobodies, a team that starts a washed up JO and Udonis Haslem at the front, is downright laughable.



So there you have it, some people just don’t know enough about basketball point blank to figure out why Beasley is so average.

Fixed

[I Never Lied]

Dude is a 6-8 1/2 multi talented, versatile player that can post up SF, & is way to fast for PF to keep up with him. Is only 21 years old, in his 2nd year & has improved his defense in leaps & bounds, & is learning everyday more, & more about the overall team concept.

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[TAI8]

Beasley put up 26/12 in his one year at Kansas State...one of the best freshman seasons in college basketball history. If there's one thing I would not doubt it's his basketball talent...

[shaqfan1]

What's the point of this thread when we just had a 20 page Beasley thread? A few more threads like these and I Never Lied will be on his way to being a RealGM.

[I Never Lied]

Beasley put up 26/12 in his one year at Kansas State...one of the best freshman seasons in college basketball history. If there's one thing I would not doubt it's his basketball talent...

Since when does that mean ANYTHING in the NBA? Going by that logic, he should have been the default #1 pick, since he is one of the greatest college basketball players ever of all time. But Bulls management worked him out, saw that he was a tweener who's main strength’s are shooting and dribbling and knew 26/12 was NEVER going to happen in the NBA.

You can be 6'7 and dominate the paint in college. But that same type of puss' shiet doesn’t fly in the NBA.


Lonny Baxter.

[shaqfan1]

Beasley put up 26/12 in his one year at Kansas State...one of the best freshman seasons in college basketball history. If there's one thing I would not doubt it's his basketball talent...

Since when does that mean ANYTHING in the NBA? Going by that logic, he should have been the default #1 pick, since he is one of the greatest college basketball players ever of all time. But Bulls management worked him out, saw that he was a tweener who's main strength’s are shooting and dribbling and knew 26/12 was NEVER going to happen in the NBA.

You can be 6'7 and dominate the paint in college. But that same type of puss' shiet doesn’t fly in the NBA.


Lonny Baxter.

How many total posts would you have if the mods took away all your posts that have the numbers "6'7" in them? I would guess 3.

I would understand its repeated use if that was actually Beasley's height, but it's not. He's 6'8.25'' in shoes which is how basketball height is measured.

[Wade2k6]

Beasley put up 26/12 in his one year at Kansas State...one of the best freshman seasons in college basketball history. If there's one thing I would not doubt it's his basketball talent...

Since when does that mean ANYTHING in the NBA? Going by that logic, he should have been the default #1 pick, since he is one of the greatest college basketball players ever of all time. But Bulls management worked him out, saw that he was a tweener who's main strength’s are shooting and dribbling and knew 26/12 was NEVER going to happen in the NBA.

You can be 6'7 and dominate the paint in college. But that same type of puss' shiet doesn’t fly in the NBA.


Lonny Baxter.

Yeah lets compare Beasley to Lonny Baxter. Baxter never broke 5 ppg in the NBA. Never came within 10 ppg in his 4 years at Maryland of Beasley's freshmen year average in college. Never came within 3.5 rebounds a game of Beasley's freshmen year average. You're trying way too hard LOL.

[TAI8]

Beasley put up 26/12 in his one year at Kansas State...one of the best freshman seasons in college basketball history. If there's one thing I would not doubt it's his basketball talent...

Since when does that mean ANYTHING in the NBA? Going by that logic, he should have been the default #1 pick, since he is one of the greatest college basketball players ever of all time. But Bulls management worked him out, saw that he was a tweener who's main strength’s are shooting and dribbling and knew 26/12 was NEVER going to happen in the NBA.

You can be 6'7 and dominate the paint in college. But that same type of puss' shiet doesn’t fly in the NBA.


Lonny Baxter.

Lonny Baxter put up 6/3 as a freshman...oh yeah real good comparison there.

It doesn't mean everything but it does mean SOMETHING...and to dismiss it as nothing is plain stupid and hating.

Now I'm not saying Beasley is a guaranteed 25/10 in the NBA, but he has the TALENT to be something else aka All-Star as indicated by his otherworldly freshman season...

Name me any NBA player who had a similar if not better freshman season than Beasley and did not become at least GOOD in the NBA...I bet you can't come up with one...

[Optimism Prime]

Beasley put up 26/12 in his one year at Kansas State...one of the best freshman seasons in college basketball history. If there's one thing I would not doubt it's his basketball talent...

Since when does that mean ANYTHING in the NBA? Going by that logic, he should have been the default #1 pick, since he is one of the greatest college basketball players ever of all time. But Bulls management worked him out, saw that he was a tweener who's main strength’s are shooting and dribbling and knew 26/12 was NEVER going to happen in the NBA.

You can be 6'7 and dominate the paint in college. But that same type of puss' shiet doesn’t fly in the NBA.


Lonny Baxter.

Lonny Baxter put up 6/3 as a freshman...oh yeah real good comparison there.

It doesn't mean everything but it does mean SOMETHING...and to dismiss it as nothing is plain stupid and hating.

Now I'm not saying Beasley is a guaranteed 25/10 in the NBA, but he has the TALENT to be something else aka All-Star as indicated by his otherworldly freshman season...

Name me any NBA player who had a similar if not better freshman season than Beasley and did not become at least GOOD in the NBA...I bet you can't come up with one...

That, I'll agree with. Talent and drive, however, are two different things, and seem to be miles apart for Beasley.

[Sid the Squid]

Beasley doesnt have the talent to rebound in the league. Without that or shot blocking, a PF/C is almost useless.

[richboy]

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I think Wade is very difficult to play with. I think Wade is the most difficult superstar in the league to play with because not only does he dominate the ball. He does it really running just 2 plays. ISO or High Screen and role. Usually Wade coming off the high screen at full speed going right to the rim. He will make passes. The problem with Wade is you can't really get much movement in your offense. A dominate post player or someone great without the ball like Durant is the only kind of players that I think will have true success playing with Wade. I bet that if Amare, Bosh, or Boozer go to Miami they will be disappointed in there production.

I don't say this to start some Lebron vs Wade debate. Not to sound like I don't like Wade because I love him. I just think he is a tough guy to play with because of his aggressive style in the plays he runs. IMO switch Wade with Lebron and Beasley is a 20 PPG guy right now.

[I Never Lied]

Yeah lets compare Beasley to Lonny Baxter. Baxter never broke 5 ppg in the NBA. Never came within 10 ppg in his 4 years at Maryland of Beasley's freshmen year average in college. Never came within 3.5 rebounds a game of Beasley's freshmen year average. You're trying way too hard LOL.

Lol, you know what I mean. Yes Beasley is way better than Lonny, Magic Randolph and Taj Gibson. But my point is because Lonny is undersized, what he did in college never transfer over to the NBA. Same with Beasley. Hs shorter than Blake Griffith and not as explosive either. So the tweenerism is exploited even further.

You people make as is he's a real power forward who just so happens to be able to shoot and dribble. He's not an Ideal PF or SF.


Hopeless.

[richboy]

Beasley doesnt have the talent to rebound in the league. Without that or shot blocking, a PF/C is almost useless.

If Beasley can't rebound at the NBA level he may be the only player I can remember that's rebounding didn't translate from college to pros. Almost always if you can rebound at college you can rebound in the NBA.

[I Never Lied]

I think Wade is very difficult to play with. I think Wade is the most difficult superstar in the league to play with because not only does he dominate the ball. He does it really running just 2 plays. ISO or High Screen and role. Usually Wade coming off the high screen at full speed going right to the rim. He will make passes. The problem with Wade is you can't really get much movement in your offense. A dominate post player or someone great without the ball like Durant is the only kind of players that I think will have true success playing with Wade. I bet that if Amare, Bosh, or Boozer go to Miami they will be disappointed in there production.

I don't say this to start some Lebron vs Wade debate. Not to sound like I don't like Wade because I love him. I just think he is a tough guy to play with because of his aggressive style in the plays he runs. IMO switch Wade with Lebron and Beasley is a 20 PPG guy right now.

Beasley is an ISO wing player. There's no way on earth he would average 20ppg on the Cavs. Mo Williams and Lebron would have the ball more than him. The whole point is that Beasley, the supposed PF, cant just post up and take and entry pass from Wade. Thats the problem, a SG and a PF can co-exist. But Beasley is a tweener not a PF.

[I Never Lied]

Beasley doesnt have the talent to rebound in the league. Without that or shot blocking, a PF/C is almost useless.

If Beasley can't rebound at the NBA level he may be the only player I can remember that's rebounding didn't translate from college to pros. Almost always if you can rebound at college you can rebound in the NBA.

You make as if Beasley hasnt already been in the league for two years. We arent trying to guess how well he can rebound going off his college stats. We can just watch him in the present and see why he's a mediocre rebounder. Stop living in the past, the bust is here today.