2010 Cap Space

[monk302]

With the 6 contracts coming off the books this summer will that give us enough room to re-stock our weak bench or will we have to trade one of our pieces in order to give us flexability this summer?

[daddyfivestar]

Kobe 24.8
Pau 17.8
Bynum 13.7
Odom 8.2
Ron 6.2
Vuja 5.5
Luke 5.2
Shann 2.2

83+ mil

that's 30 mil over the projected Cap so there is no way to upgrade the bench except for MLE, 2nd rdrs and Vet mimimums.

[rhp1990]

trade sasha for something

Shannon will probably opt out to get a longer deal.

[semi-sentient]

There is nothing significant coming off the books, and even if Kobe had opted out (which he won't since he just got that extension) we'd be well over the cap.

We have our MLE that we can use to get a PG to replace Fisher, and we might have enough left over to get a good shooter (Korver) to provide something consistent off the bench.

Sasha's expiring + Farmar might land us something nice before next seasons trade deadline, but other than that we don't have much to work with.

Shannon can sign elsewhere for all I care. He's fun to watch at times, but he's just not a very good basketball player. He'd fit in better with the Globetrotters with all that damn dribbling he does.

[The_Commish]

what other exceptions do we have other than the MLE? and how much are they worth, please and thank you

[daddyfivestar]

None. No BAE until summer '11 and no TPEs. MLE only.

[laduane1]

It goes both ways. Lakers win and when a team wins. They have to pay for all that winning. So when it comes to trying to get new players or upgrade the bench. It comes down to over paying other playes to stay and perform. We just can not have it both ways. Win and have a 12 man roster of great players.

I think Shannon will re-sign for a longer deal. Fisher is the big question. So loyal to the team and fans want to drop him.

Farmar is still young and Sasha is better in Europe. Farmar is not the best player out there. But finding that player for 2-3 million might not happen. So he might be the best choice for another year.

[DEEP3CL]

With the 6 contracts coming off the books this summer will that give us enough room to re-stock our weak bench or will we have to trade one of our pieces in order to give us flexability this summer?

Still will be over the cap........nothing changes.

[joe.linnen]

SF:Artest/Walton
PF:Gasol/Odom/Powell
C:BynumMbenga
SG:Bryant/Brown
PG:Fisher

Fisher $3,000,000
Mbnega $1,000,000
Powell $1,000,000
Farmar $5,000,000
Morrison $6,897,848
Vujacic $5,475,113

Vujacic, Morrison, and Farmar for something much better I also that we will get back longer contracts back.

Bring in any of these guys:
Randy Foye
Rafer Alston
Chris Duhon
Eddie House
Kyle Korver
Michael Finley
Nate Robinson
Raymond Felton
Larry Hughes
Quentin Richardson

[dula14]

The only way the Lakers are going to make any significant changes/upgrades to this roster is to include Kobe, Pau, Andrew, Lamar or Ron in a trade. We know Kobe and Pau won't be part of any trade discussion as they're the cornerstone's of the franchise and have both recently signed lucrative contract extensions.

So, that leaves Andrew, Lamar and Ron with the likely scenario being the Lakers offering up Ron, Sasha's expiring and maybe some other fillers (draft picks possibly). Ron is the likely trade bait because he simply hasn't fit in offensively, and he's the only change from last season's 65 win championship team. Unfortunately, the Lakers will probably have a hard time getting anything of significant worth for him due to his offensive struggles and defensive slippage (in comparison to the old Ron-Ron anyway).

If the Lakers fail to repeat - which is looking more and more likely - then I wouldn't be surprised to see Andrew and/or Lamar offered up if teams are unwilling to take the Artest bait. I would personally prefer to see Bynum leave in this scenario as he would bring more in return - possibly even one of the elite FAs this offseason depending on all the particulars of any potential deal.

[Kilroy]

The only way the Lakers are going to make any significant changes/upgrades to this roster is to include Kobe, Pau, Andrew, Lamar or Ron in a trade. We know Kobe and Pau won't be part of any trade discussion as they're the cornerstone's of the franchise and have both recently signed lucrative contract extensions.

So, that leaves Andrew, Lamar and Ron with the likely scenario being the Lakers offering up Ron, Sasha's expiring and maybe some other fillers (draft picks possibly). Ron is the likely trade bait because he simply hasn't fit in offensively, and he's the only change from last season's 65 win championship team. Unfortunately, the Lakers will probably have a hard time getting anything of significant worth for him due to his offensive struggles and defensive slippage (in comparison to the old Ron-Ron anyway).

If the Lakers fail to repeat - which is looking more and more likely - then I wouldn't be surprised to see Andrew and/or Lamar offered up if teams are unwilling to take the Artest bait. I would personally prefer to see Bynum leave in this scenario as he would bring more in return - possibly even one of the elite FAs this offseason depending on all the particulars of any potential deal.

+1
I think it's pretty clear that Bynum is the odd-man out in the 'core' and it wouldn't really hurt my feelings to see Odom go either, but I don't think it'll happen.

I expect Bynum+filler to be moved this summer.

It would surprise me if it doesn't happen frankly... But I could honestly see anyone not named Kobe or Fish moving at this point... Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking blow-up, just one of the main players finding a new home for something complimentary.

[H00PDREAMS]

CAP space talk allways make my brain hurt.

[daddyfivestar]

SF:Artest/Walton
PF:Gasol/Odom/Powell
C:BynumMbenga
SG:Bryant/Brown
PG:Fisher

Fisher $3,000,000
Mbnega $1,000,000
Powell $1,000,000
Farmar $5,000,000
Morrison $6,897,848
Vujacic $5,475,113

Did you really just give Farmar 5 mil, Fisher 3 mil, and exercise Ammo's 6.9 mil final season??
OMG

[daddyfivestar]

1- Trade: Proposed by Wiz fans on the Wiz board
Vujacic, LA '11 1st, NY '11 2nd, for Foye (s/t 4.2 mil year 1) and Wiz '11 2nd

2- Sign Korver with 2.5 mil of MLE for two yrs, team opt yr 3

3- Resign Fisher for 2.0 mil for final season as mentor to Foye and drafted pg pick

4- Extend Brown at 105% for two more yrs (same salary in '10-11, then 2.31 in next, etc)

5- Resign Mbenga to vet min for 7 yr player ($1.06 mil), team opt for yr 2

6- Trade up in 2nd round with #59 and the Mia '11 pick into 40's giving LA two picks in 40's; draft quick PG and PF/C

Roster:
Bryant $24,806,250
PGasol $17,823,000
Bynum $13,700,000
Odom $8,200,000
Artest $6,322,320
Foye $4,200,000
Walton $5,260,000
Korver $2,500,000
Sbrown $2,198,950
Fisher $2,000,000
DJ $1,069,509
PG 2nd $473,604
PFC 2nd $473,604
$89,027,237

Bynum/(Pau)/DJ/(2nd rd)
Pau/Odom/2nd rd
Ron/Korver/Luke
Kobe/Brown/(Foye)/(Korver)
Foye/(Brown)/2nd rd/Fish

I like a smaller quick PG in the 2nd - Scottie Reynolds?
and a big Defensive PF/C - Paulo Prestes?

Most of all, I like 89 mill for 13 players and 91 mil for next season after.
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[KingLakers]

I don't think Foye is worth a 1st and 2nd round pick did you read the article in the news section today the Wizards may not even give him a qualifying offer but a straight swap with Sasha sounds good to me. Also Benga is gone why resign him for 1 million dollars a year. Korver sounds interesting I didn't know he was an FA this summer. The draft this summer I think the Lakers will take a pure SG to backup Kobe or a SF I hope Desean Butler falls to the Memphis pick I know he tore his ACL in the tournament but I really think he could be next seasons Dejaun Blair.Also I think bringing back Gaffney and Elonu will also help. Resigning Fisher sounds good to me at the vets minimum 2 yrs 2.6 million.

[daddyfivestar]

- the swap for Foye allows LA to KEEP the MLE otherwise they have to use it on him, and cannot add a second player of Korvers calibre to strengthen the weak bench
Wiz will not just trade for Sasha straight, are you high? There has to be sweetener. Sliding back 5-7 slots for LA is a good compromise so they can still get a solid player next year.

- how do you not know Korver is FA? And Butler should long gone, particularly to one of the teams with 3 or 4 picks before LA has its first one since they could afford to let him heal

- Mbenga is resigned at the vet min. The least LA would really be able to get a vet 3rd C for is 700k so an additional 330 for triangle experience is clearly worth it

- Elonu is not even excelling in the 2nd division (ie DLeague) in Europe, how is he going to be on an NBA roster?

- Make it a team opt on Fishers 2nd year then because he's really only being retained tro be a mentor, his productive days are quickly going

[KingLakers]

Ok maybe the Lakers can trade that 2nd round pick from NY with Sasha but I really think trading a 1st round pick also is going a little overboard. And Benga I read recently in the LA TImes that his conditioning isn't very good and he can at most play 10 to 15 mpg thats why I don't think he's worth the money. Why not bring back Elonu and 3 or 4 other guys from the D league and summer leagues and the lower pick in this years draft and have them compete for Benga's spot. And finally Fisher will probably ask for a player option if he take a 2 yr deal at the vets minimum that will probably be the trade off for Fisher taking the minimum in the negotiations.

[ClubLakers KB8]

- Let Morrison, Brown, and Farmar go.
- Re-sign Fisher for the veterans minimum to play back-up PG.
- Split the MLE on Raja Bell and Steve Blake.
- Keep Sasha for a deadline deal
- Re-sign DJ and Powell for similar contracts.
- Draft a PG with the Memphis second rounder

PG - Blake, Fisher, 2nd rounder
SG - Bryant, Bell, Sasha
SF - Artest, Walton
PF - Gasol, Odom, Powell
C - Bynum, (Gasol), Mbenga

Committed salary: ~92,100,000. We gain Bell and Blake, two solid defender who can hit the 3 ball. That's what we need. Ideally we could deal Sasha for an athletic wing.

[KingLakers]

I don't think Blake is a real answer at PG he's more of stop gap. Again with this resigning of Powell and Benga both these guys are goners neither is worth another pay raise from the Lakers why not go after a guy like Mahinmi from the Spurs he's young athletic and has a lot of potential and he could be cheaper than Powell I would think a camp/preseason competition between him and Gaffney for a roster spot would be great. Other options at PG outside of Felton are very few none of the FA PG's outside of Felton seem to be great fits I think if the Lakers can't get Felton they should look into trading for Sessions who should be available maybe a sign and trade with Farmar could work. Also depending on how the Bulls offseason goes Hinrich could be available again they should look into that again.

[ClubLakers KB8]

I was thinking...

Charlotte was looking to trade Augustin at the deadline (and not even for much), and it's obvious they'd love to deal Diop. I don't know for sure, but I would think Luke Walton would be a Larry Brown type of player. Luke and Diop have similar contracts that are considered crap.

Any chance Sasha/Walton/Memphis 2nd for Diop/Augustin works?

Saves the Lakers 1.7 million this year, saves the Bobcats in the long run. With Diop we also wouldn't have to re-up Mbenga as a back-up, again saving us cash. We'd get our PG and save cash to use the MLE (Mike Miller as the back-up 2/3 would be AWESOME). If we gave Miller 5,000,000 next season and did that trade, we'd be at $84,870,570 with this:

PG - Augustin
SG - Bryant, (Miller)
SF - Artest, Miller
PF - Gasol, Odom
C - Bynum, (Gasol), Diop

Sign Fisher and Powell for minimum contracts, bring in a Rodney Carney and a Devin Brown, and I think we have a GREAT team and our total salary is less than what it is this year.