Michael Beasley

[Wade2k6]

Yeah lets compare Beasley to Lonny Baxter. Baxter never broke 5 ppg in the NBA. Never came within 10 ppg in his 4 years at Maryland of Beasley's freshmen year average in college. Never came within 3.5 rebounds a game of Beasley's freshmen year average. You're trying way too hard LOL.

Lol, you know what I mean. Yes Beasley is way better than Lonny, Magic Randolph and Taj Gibson. But my point is because Lonny is undersized, what he did in college never transfer over to the NBA. Same with Beasley. Hs shorter than Blake Griffith and not as explosive either. So the tweenerism is exploited even further.

You people make as is he's a real power forward who just so happens to be able to shoot and dribble. He's not an Ideal PF or SF.


Hopeless.

No, I don't know what you mean. There is a reason Baxter was drafted mid-2nd round and Beasley was a 2nd overall pick, because he's a much better player then Baxter ever was.

And he's shorter then Griffin but is actually longer.
Beasley:
wingspan: 7' 0.25 8'11
standing reach: 8' 11
non-step vertical: 30 inches 11'10
max vertical reach: 11' 10
Bench: 19 times
Sprint: 3.24 seconds
Agility: 11.06
Max vertical- 35 inches

Griffin-
Wingspan: 6' 11.25
standing reach: 8'9
Non-step Vertical: 32 inches
max vertical reach: 11' 8.25
Bench: 22 times.
Sprint: 3.28 .
Agility: 10.95
Max Vertical: 35.5 inches

Actually shows that they are very similar. Beasley is longer, but Griffin jumps a bit higher.

[Sid the Squid]

Ive watched all these short PF's will nice wingspans come into the league and fail over and over..Wingspan is a nice asset, but if youre 6'2 with a 7'1 wingspan youre not going to be able to play PF in the league..Give me height first, then we can talk wingspan .

[I Never Lied]

No, I don't know what you mean. There is a reason Baxter was drafted mid-2nd round and Beasley was a 2nd overall pick, because he's a much better player then Baxter ever was.

And he's shorter then Griffin but is actually longer.
Beasley:
wingspan: 7' 0.25 8'11
standing reach: 8' 11
non-step vertical: 30 inches 11'10
max vertical reach: 11' 10
Bench: 19 times
Sprint: 3.24 seconds
Agility: 11.06
Max vertical- 35 inches

Griffin-
Wingspan: 6' 11.25
standing reach: 8'9
Non-step Vertical: 32 inches
max vertical reach: 11' 8.25
Bench: 22 times.
Sprint: 3.28 .
Agility: 10.95
Max Vertical: 35.5 inches

Actually shows that they are very similar. Beasley is longer, but Griffin jumps a bit higher.

Either way Blake Griffith is taller, a FAR superior athlete and has a better motor. Beasley out on the court playing "smooth" throwing up finger rolls, while Griffith is out there attacking the rim breaking his knee cap from the sheer force.

Judging by their respective agilities, Beasley is not going to take a real PF like Blake Griffith off the dribble, and he cant post up a guy like Gerald Wallace either.


Completely useless tweener.

[notahater]

If Beasley can't coexist with D-Wade one of the best shooting guards in the league, who exactly can he play with?

[Wade2k6]

Who cares if a player is taller if he has a shorter wingspan and standing reach? How exactly does being an inch taller help Griffin more-so then Beasley having 2 inches of standing reach and an inch of wingspan on him? Last time I checked you don't play basketball with your arms at your sides, so wingspan and standing reach is certainly more important then height (in this specific case comparing Beasley and Griffin).
Is he a better athlete? Probably. But is he a far superior athlete? No, he isn't, and it's shown by the numbers at the work outs.

[KDS91]

What's the point of this thread when we just had a 20 page Beasley thread? A few more threads like these and I Never Lied will be on his way to being a RealGM.

My thoughts exactly.

Beasley's in a long slump and his head isn't there. Not a bust YET. The end.

[9abovetherim]

chucker,ball hog. period.

[I Never Lied]

Who cares if a player is taller if he has a shorter wingspan and standing reach? How exactly does being an inch taller help Griffin more-so then Beasley having 2 inches of standing reach and an inch of wingspan on him? Last time I checked you don't play basketball with your arms at your sides, so wingspan and standing reach is certainly more important then height (in this specific case comparing Beasley and Griffin).
Is he a better athlete? Probably. But is he a far superior athlete? No, he isn't, and it's shown by the numbers at the work outs.

Rudy Gay has a 8'11.25 standing reach, longer than Beasley’s, Does this now mean that Rudy Gay can rebound better than Griffith and Beasley? GTFOH with that. Height has a lot to with being an inside player (which Beasley isn’t to begin with anyway). Any yes, for all intents and purposes regarding playing in the paint, Griffith is FAR SUPERIOR athletically to Beasley.

[microfib4thewin]

If Beasley can't coexist with D-Wade one of the best shooting guards in the league, who exactly can he play with?

He can play with Lebron and Kobe who are obviously not ball dominant players.

[richboy]

Ive watched all these short PF's will nice wingspans come into the league and fail over and over..Wingspan is a nice asset, but if youre 6'2 with a 7'1 wingspan youre not going to be able to play PF in the league..Give me height first, then we can talk wingspan .

Actually height has shown to have little impact on play and standing reach is far more important. I'm not sure why you think height would be the most important when you don't play basketball with your head. Beasley's length is just fine. His height is not really a problem. There are smaller PFs in this league. I don't see Beasley's problem as physical because what Beasley did well in college is take smaller guys down low and bigger guys outside. He can do that at the NBA level. Problem I have is that isn't what he is asked to do. Beasley is pretty much a midrange chucker at the NBA level. To me he just doesn't look aggressive offensively because he doesn't want to step on the toes of Wade.

Most good young players are allowed to grow early in there career. Then the team sees what they can do well and build off the strength and weaknesses. Beasley isn't really being allowed to grow. He is being told this is what we need. For what Miami is asking he is probably doing as good as he can do. The only thing he could be expected to do better is rebound.

[richboy]

Beasley is an ISO wing player. There's no way on earth he would average 20ppg on the Cavs. Mo Williams and Lebron would have the ball more than him. The whole point is that Beasley, the supposed PF, cant just post up and take and entry pass from Wade. Thats the problem, a SG and a PF can co-exist. But Beasley is a tweener not a PF.

Well I said that Beasley would average 20 if Lebron played on the Heat. Mainly because Lebron is a much easier to play with than Wade. For example Wade and Lebron both can run some screen and roll plays with Beasley. That play alone should make Beasley a 20 PPG scorer. It hasn't with Wade though because Wade runs that play pretty much to get himself a shot. While Lebron runs that play while still looking to find others.

To me Beasley is a perimeter player. I just don't think Wade's style will ever allow for another perimeter player to be anything more than spot up most of the time. I hear people say Wade should go to the Bulls and I just laugh. No way Wade and Rose could play together.

[wang000hk]

He will do great in GSW and NYK,that's for sure

[vincecarter4pres]

Name me any NBA player who had a similar if not better freshman season than Beasley and did not become at least GOOD in the NBA...I bet you can't come up with one...

Let's start with Kris Humphries...

[dookieguy]

he's over 6-8, stop saying he's 6-7, god, talk about distorting evidence to prove your point.

He has the same reach as Griffin, not to mention he had amazing rebounding numbers in college, which means he has the rebounding skill and the potential to be a good if not elite rebounder.

[I Never Lied]

How can you people be so stupid and naive to think that you know better than NBA coaches on how to utilize a player‘s strengths? I think you guys are so damn stupid that you've forgotten that the coaching staff WORK WITH BEASLEY. As in they see him everyday when they get up and go to work. They have his cell phone number. They know what he ate for lunch on Tuesday. They watch him play basketball UP CLOSE for 3-4 hours a day. If any of you really think that your sitting at home watching Beasley on television has given you even 1/100th of the information the coaches have to assess Beasley's usefulness; then you have got to be the dumbest M'Fer walking this planet called earth.

There are no simple adjustments that will magically turn Beasley into a 24/11 player. What you see is what you get. Trevor Ariza was bounced around the League as an afterthought until he got to L.A. Then he exploded and people were saying "see you can never give up on the youngins‘, he just needed the right situation" Well now that Ariza has gotten his contract he went right back to being the borderline trash he always was. When you play basketball for a living, the fact that you spend 40% of your life inside a practice facility and still cannot break through says something about you.

[Chosen01]

Beasley is an ISO wing player. There's no way on earth he would average 20ppg on the Cavs. Mo Williams and Lebron would have the ball more than him. The whole point is that Beasley, the supposed PF, cant just post up and take and entry pass from Wade. Thats the problem, a SG and a PF can co-exist. But Beasley is a tweener not a PF.

Well I said that Beasley would average 20 if Lebron played on the Heat. Mainly because Lebron is a much easier to play with than Wade. For example Wade and Lebron both can run some screen and roll plays with Beasley. That play alone should make Beasley a 20 PPG scorer. It hasn't with Wade though because Wade runs that play pretty much to get himself a shot. While Lebron runs that play while still looking to find others.

To me Beasley is a perimeter player. I just don't think Wade's style will ever allow for another perimeter player to be anything more than spot up most of the time. I hear people say Wade should go to the Bulls and I just laugh. No way Wade and Rose could play together.

First of all, saying Wade plays pretty much to get is own shot s pretty much , just stupid sorry. Please watch heat games before you state such nonsense. Wade usually get turnovers trying to pass to his teamates. Wade doesnt have 6.7 apg by trying to get his wn shot. With the screen and roll, Beasley can't set a screen for ****, hes getting better but still. They run absoulutely no plays for Beasley, ONLY isos. I really can't get how you can say Wade doesnt look for others, we're not talking about Kobe here.Wade is probably one of the most unselfish guys out there, thus why heat fans say hes too passive at times.

[shaqfan1]

How can you people be so stupid and naive to think that you know better than NBA coaches on how to utilize a player‘s strengths? I think you guys are so damn stupid that you've forgotten that the coaching staff WORK WITH BEASLEY. As in they see him everyday when they get up and go to work. They have his cell phone number. They know what he ate for lunch on Tuesday. They watch him play basketball UP CLOSE for 3-4 hours a day. If any of you really think that your sitting at home watching Beasley on television has given you even 1/100th of the information the coaches have to assess Beasley's usefulness; then you have got to be the dumbest M'Fer walking this planet called earth.

There are no simple adjustments that will magically turn Beasley into a 24/11 player. What you see is what you get. Trevor Ariza was bounced around the League as an afterthought until he got to L.A. Then he exploded and people were saying "see you can never give up on the youngins‘, he just needed the right situation" Well now that Ariza has gotten his contract he went right back to being the borderline trash he always was. When you play basketball for a living, the fact that you spend 40% of your life inside a practice facility and still cannot break through says something about you.

Exactly. The coaching staff knows more about Beasley than we do. That's why I don't understand why you keep saying Beasley is 6'7'' considering the coaching staff lists Beasley's official height at 6'10''.

[Sid the Squid]

He's 6'7. Please stop with the 6'9 or 6'10 nonsense lol. Just look at him out there. He's a midget PF.

And at the idea that SuperCool doesnt rebound because of the team he plays for.

[shaqfan1]

He's 6'7. Please stop with the 6'9 or 6'10 nonsense lol. Just look at him out there. He's a midget PF.

And at the idea that SuperCool doesnt rebound because of the team he plays for.

Your "just look at him" strategy lead you to believe that Magic Randolph grew 4 inches in an offseason, so I don't exactly trust your observational skills.

[MSGBallerz]

Even though he's having a rough time lately Beasley is averaging 20/8 when he plays 32 or more minutes!!
His defense has improved a lot over the past year and is now up to NBA standards. The only problem is that he averages 29.9 minutes. He will be a 25/10 player in a couple of years only if he gets more playing time. If spo doesn't want to give Beasley minutes and involve him more on offence then it would be best for Beasley to want a trade . He is clearly an offensive beast and i feel he doesn't fit heat well. The dudes too talented to be wasted in heat's system. Thoughts?

Are you Michael Beasley?