Your favorite 2nd round senior sleeper

[Starkiller]

I doubt he'll last till then, but I'd be thrilled if we scooped Eric Bledsoe in the 2nd round.

[Grang33r]

I doubt he'll last till then, but I'd be thrilled if we scooped Eric Bledsoe in the 2nd round.

I've heard some people say he will be a late lottery guy, mainly due to the fact this is a very weak PG class and Bledsoe is 2nd to Wall on the PG charts.... but i've seen him in mid-20s as well. The case of Bledsoe will be very interesting to see how it plays out.

[8305]

I always liked Ryan Wittman's dad and they say their games are similar. After the cleansing of 2011 a player like this could be very handy. I was also impressed with Adam Koch. He really battled well against the bigs of Kansas. Not sure we want to collect Tyler Hansbrough types though.

[Scoot McGroot]

I always liked Ryan Wittman's dad and they say their games are similar. After the cleansing of 2011 a player like this could be very handy. I was also impressed with Adam Koch. He really battled well against the bigs of Kansas. Not sure we want to collect Tyler Hansbrough types though.

When in doubt, go with the guy that you know will fail based only on their actual talent. Go with the guy that you will never doubt his work ethic and effort. That's why I was ok with the Hansbrough pick. I'll take 10 Hansbrough picks before a Shawne Williams (pure talent and potential) pick or a Jon Bender (potential, athleticism, but lack of bball iq) pick.

[8305]

Completely agree. And as it relates to the 2nd round, successful picks have generally been seniors who get over analyzed and slotted as role players lacking major upside. If they are smart to boot they pretty quickly figure the things they have to do well to help a team.

[Starkiller]

I'm an ND guy, and I don't think I want Harangody.

Is there any doubt in any of your minds that Bird is going to draft Harangody? I mean it's painfully obvious. Troy Murphy Jr. is going to replace Troy Murphy and the era of slow white guys will never end as long as Bird is running the show.

[Gremz]

My 2nd round list looks like this -

PG: Jeremy Lin (Harvard) - Malcolm Delaney (Va Tech - groom him at the point)
SG: Dominique Jones (South Florida) - Aubrey Coleman (Houston)
SF: Manny Harris (Michigan) - JP Prince (Tennessee) - Quincy Pondexter (Washington) - Darrington Hobson (New Mexico - it worked the first time taking a kid from New Mexico!)
PF/C: Jarvis Varnado (Miss State) - Dexter Pittman (Texas) - Art Parakhouski (Radford) - Trevor Booker (Clemson)

Welcome ardthomp,

I like quite a few of those guys and hope we can manage to grab ourselves some decent talent. For me Varnado and Pondexter stand out more than most.

[Moooose]

With the 40th pick, i'd like to have Willie Warren, Vasquez, or Varnado.

With the 57th, i think we could gamble on some good international talents such as Ohlbrecht of Germany and Shved of Russia, that wouldn't hurt.

[Gremz]

With the 40th pick, i'd like to have Willie Warren, Vasquez, or Varnado.

With the 57th, i think we could gamble on some good international talents such as Ohlbrecht of Germany and Shved of Russia, that wouldn't hurt.

Sounds completely reasonable to me. I do think Warren might be a stretch, but I'd love Varnado there.

[mizzoupacers]

I actually think Warren is going to fall from where he is currently projected, and might be available at #40. However, I also don't think he's all that good.

[Gremz]

He might. His season has been pretty forgettable, just a hunch for me. I think someone will pick him up earler.

[old rem]

I always liked Ryan Wittman's dad and they say their games are similar. After the cleansing of 2011 a player like this could be very handy. I was also impressed with Adam Koch. He really battled well against the bigs of Kansas. Not sure we want to collect Tyler Hansbrough types though.

When in doubt, go with the guy that you know will fail based only on their actual talent. Go with the guy that you will never doubt his work ethic and effort. That's why I was ok with the Hansbrough pick. I'll take 10 Hansbrough picks before a Shawne Williams (pure talent and potential) pick or a Jon Bender (potential, athleticism, but lack of bball iq) pick.

Quite agree.

GSW,some years ago wasted a draft pick on Chris Washburn,who had the physical tools of Dwight Howard. Washburn had more red flags than a major disaster area,the brains and work ethic of a cabbage,and a coke habit. He went from 3rd pick to cut from the Albany Patroons in just a couple years.

Hansborough may not have big upside/tools but he has skills and will definitely make the most of what he has.

[8305]

Interesting scouting report on a guy who might be available in the 2nd round. Remember being impressed with him when Alabama played Purdue.

Mikhail Torrance - 6'5, 210lb Point Guard: This point guard class features very few proven studs at the point guard position - John Wall, Kemba Walker and Eric Bledsoe lead the pack.

Mikhail Torrance could be a sleeper pick for a proven team in need of a point guard.

Don't let his college stats fool you; Mikhail is a point guard and a very good one at that. He is a big guard at a legit 6'5. He is strong with the ball with both hands. Has a good touch out to NBA three-point range and can get anywhere he wants to go on the floor.

He can score and did so in bunches at Alabama, but at the next level he understands he's got to prove to NBA teams that he can be a leader and a distributor and is a willing defender.

In a draft class full of promising studs that may need a few years, Torrance could be the most ready-to-play point guard of the bunch, and playoff teams like Orlando and the L.A. Lakers needing a mature ready-to-play player. Mikhail could sneak into the bottom of the first round especially when teams see how well-rounded his game and personality are and realize on most of those squads, he could play today.

Mikhail had a strong showing in Portsmouth and is likely a high second-round pick, but if his workouts go as scripted, he could be a player on the rise.



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[mizzoupacers]

Here's DraftExpress's page on Torrance:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mikhail-Torrance-5846/

Who knows, maybe this writer is full of feces, but I like reading stuff such as "terrific creativity running the pick and roll" and "passing skills and terrific court vision." Also sounds as though Torrance as a pg is a work in progress who could possibly be "coached up."

Torrance sounds pretty interesting.

[Miller4ever]

Too bad our pick and roll game is nonexistent. We could use a good distributor, though.

[8305]

A 6' 5" guy who isn't a disaster handling and distributing the ball, can shoot a little, who is athletic enough to defend the point? That all by itself would improve the Pacers defensively in ways its hard to imagine.

[Miller4ever]

^^We got a guy who does 3 out of 4 and he doesn't get minutes. His name is Dahntay Jones. Good handles, drives, has a decent jumper, and can defend 3 positions.