09-10 WizFans Official Draft Thread
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Agree with Raf, that group of SG prospects is pretty weak. I'd rather go with N1 and Ross as SG's over that cast.
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I still don't trust Nick. It is true he is playing a bit better in the flow of the offense, but he's looked recently because he is hot right now. Let's see what he looks like when he goes cold.
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I agree with Lik, still very skeptical of Nick, though I would go farther actually and gauge Nick's trade value around the draft.
Arenas and Livingston are a bit shaky as injury risks, so if anyone is actually thinking we should try and compete for anything next year, I must confess shock at seeing those same lips charge that Nick, Liver and Gil are some kind of infallible iron triangle of certitude.
At the very, very least, we should have a few guards waiting in the wings to plug into the position should Young's uptick be dip down or someone gets hurt. One of those guys being a two guard selected 30th or 34th makes plenty of sense if it's a BPA value pick.
Of the list, Elliot Williams sounds the best, but he probably won't be there. I'd probably go with Avery Bradley next. Warren is supposed to be a bit of a malcontent, but on talent, he'd work at 30.
Malcom Lee also said he's going back to UCLA.
Arenas and Livingston are a bit shaky as injury risks, so if anyone is actually thinking we should try and compete for anything next year, I must confess shock at seeing those same lips charge that Nick, Liver and Gil are some kind of infallible iron triangle of certitude.
At the very, very least, we should have a few guards waiting in the wings to plug into the position should Young's uptick be dip down or someone gets hurt. One of those guys being a two guard selected 30th or 34th makes plenty of sense if it's a BPA value pick.
Of the list, Elliot Williams sounds the best, but he probably won't be there. I'd probably go with Avery Bradley next. Warren is supposed to be a bit of a malcontent, but on talent, he'd work at 30.
Malcom Lee also said he's going back to UCLA.

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nate33 wrote:If Minnesota landed the #4 pick with Cousins or Favors on the board, I wonder if they'd move down?
There is a lot of talk that the T-Wolves are looking to deal either Big Al or Kevin Love since they don't fit together. Still, T-Wolves seem to look to draft the best available player (see Johnny Flynn and Ricky Rubio).
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Best bet really seems to deal the 30th and 35th to move up in the draft and be in position for Willie Warren in the low 20s or even Elliot Williams. Boston or Portland may be willing to deal their pick for those 2.
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eitanr wrote:Best bet really seems to deal the 30th and 35th to move up in the draft and be in position for Willie Warren in the low 20s or even Elliot Williams. Boston or Portland may be willing to deal their pick for those 2.
Boston will keep their pick. That team is old. They need to start stock piling talent. I'd look at the Thunder though. They will probably get a big man in free agency. They will have two picks in the 20s (IIRC, 22 and 27).
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Rafael122 wrote:eitanr wrote:Best bet really seems to deal the 30th and 35th to move up in the draft and be in position for Willie Warren in the low 20s or even Elliot Williams. Boston or Portland may be willing to deal their pick for those 2.
Boston will keep their pick. That team is old. They need to start stock piling talent. I'd look at the Thunder though. They will probably get a big man in free agency. They will have two picks in the 20s (IIRC, 22 and 27).
James Anderson, Gordon Hayward, Paul George, or Kyle Orton (depending on how his workouts look) over Elliot Williams or Willie Warren, please.
i could see the Spurs (20th pick) being intrigued with a high 2nd rounder. it seems to be their MO.
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While wary of repeating last season's sin, I would trade any pick below #2 for Kevin Love. Blatche can move to center.
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Kanyewest wrote:nate33 wrote:If Minnesota landed the #4 pick with Cousins or Favors on the board, I wonder if they'd move down?
There is a lot of talk that the T-Wolves are looking to deal either Big Al or Kevin Love since they don't fit together. Still, T-Wolves seem to look to draft the best available player (see Johnny Flynn and Ricky Rubio).
The Wolves probably try to move into the 2nd pick to get Turner if they get screwed in the Lotto. Golden State would probably be the ideal trading partner, but the Nets might also try to turn the 2nd pick into a 2(4th pick and Al Jefferson) for 1(2nd pick).
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fugop wrote:While wary of repeating last season's sin, I would trade any pick below #2 for Kevin Love. Blatche can move to center.
A major problem with this idea is that Kevin Love's contract will be up in just 2 years, after which he'll cost a boatload of money. Our top pick will be cheap for 4 years. I also don't love the idea of Blatche moving to center.
I like Love a lot and his physicality would be a nice addition to our ballclub, but I fear that bringing him here would leave us with the same problem Minnesota has: two PF's and no C.
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nate33 wrote:fugop wrote:While wary of repeating last season's sin, I would trade any pick below #2 for Kevin Love. Blatche can move to center.
A major problem with this idea is that Kevin Love's contract will be up in just 2 years, after which he'll cost a boatload of money. Our top pick will be cheap for 4 years. I also don't love the idea of Blatche moving to center.
I like Love a lot and his physicality would be a nice addition to our ballclub, but I fear that bringing him here would leave us with the same problem Minnesota has: two PF's and no C.
The problem with Minnesota is not really that Love and Jefferson are power forwards, but that they don't compliment each other. Both are low post bruiser types. Blatche and Love, OTOH, would compliment each other well. Blatche would be more of that high post big that can operate away from the basket, and Love would be that physical rebounding presence in the middle. It's not an ideal frontcourt, but I think it's one that would be effective. Would be nicer if Lover was a shotblocker.
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If we retain Livingston, I'm not so sure Turner would be such a good fit. We'd already have Livingston, Arenas and Blatche who would have the ball in their hands most of the time. Turner is another ball dominator who's talents might be wasted on this ball club. With that in mind, if we had the #2 pick, would it make sense to trade down to #3 or #4 for Favors or Turner?
For argument's sake, let's assume we drafted Turner at #2 and Minnesota was on the clock at #4 with Favors still on the board. What would it cost for Minnesota to trade for Turner's rights? (Minnesota also has the #16 pick this year.)
I might do it if they gave up the #16 and gave us the unconditional right to swap picks next year. We could also give them the #30 since we might not want too many rookies in one season.
For argument's sake, let's assume we drafted Turner at #2 and Minnesota was on the clock at #4 with Favors still on the board. What would it cost for Minnesota to trade for Turner's rights? (Minnesota also has the #16 pick this year.)
I might do it if they gave up the #16 and gave us the unconditional right to swap picks next year. We could also give them the #30 since we might not want too many rookies in one season.
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nate33 wrote:If we retain Livingston, I'm not so sure Turner would be such a good fit. We'd already have Livingston, Arenas and Blatche who would have the ball in their hands most of the time. Turner is another ball dominator who's talents might be wasted on this ball club. With that in mind, if we had the #2 pick, would it make sense to trade down to #3 or #4 for Favors or Turner?
For argument's sake, let's assume we drafted Turner at #2 and Minnesota was on the clock at #4 with Favors still on the board. What would it cost for Minnesota to trade for Turner's rights? (Minnesota also has the #16 pick this year.)
I might do it if they gave up the #16 and gave us the unconditional right to swap picks next year. We could also give them the #30 since we might not want too many rookies in one season.
As the Wizards GM I would ask for Love to trade up. I would offer Nick Young and/or Al Thornton to them and the 30th pick.
If Favors or some wildcard goes at 3 and leaves Cousins available at 4, I might be willing to make the swap just for a 16/30 swap, maybe the Wizards should get a future 2nd also.
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verbal8 wrote:nate33 wrote:If we retain Livingston, I'm not so sure Turner would be such a good fit. We'd already have Livingston, Arenas and Blatche who would have the ball in their hands most of the time. Turner is another ball dominator who's talents might be wasted on this ball club. With that in mind, if we had the #2 pick, would it make sense to trade down to #3 or #4 for Favors or Turner?
For argument's sake, let's assume we drafted Turner at #2 and Minnesota was on the clock at #4 with Favors still on the board. What would it cost for Minnesota to trade for Turner's rights? (Minnesota also has the #16 pick this year.)
I might do it if they gave up the #16 and gave us the unconditional right to swap picks next year. We could also give them the #30 since we might not want too many rookies in one season.
As the Wizards GM I would ask for Love to trade up. I would offer Nick Young and/or Al Thornton to them and the 30th pick.
If Favors or some wildcard goes at 3 and leaves Cousins available at 4, I might be willing to make the swap just for a 16/30 swap, maybe the Wizards should get a future 2nd also.
I think going for Love is too extreme. They'd never agree to that. The 16/30 swap alone isn't enough. I like the idea of an unconditional pick swap in 2011. You never know, that could be a #1 pick in the draft.
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nate33 wrote:If we retain Livingston, I'm not so sure Turner would be such a good fit. We'd already have Livingston, Arenas and Blatche who would have the ball in their hands most of the time. Turner is another ball dominator who's talents might be wasted on this ball club. With that in mind, if we had the #2 pick, would it make sense to trade down to #3 or #4 for Favors or Turner?
For argument's sake, let's assume we drafted Turner at #2 and Minnesota was on the clock at #4 with Favors still on the board. What would it cost for Minnesota to trade for Turner's rights? (Minnesota also has the #16 pick this year.)
I might do it if they gave up the #16 and gave us the unconditional right to swap picks next year. We could also give them the #30 since we might not want too many rookies in one season.
Not worth to have the right to swap picks. The T-Wolves shouldn't be a bottom dwelling team with Turner, Love, and Jefferson. Are you also implying that Minnesota would give up it's #4 pick as well?
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Since there are more power forwards available than centers, what are the chances that Blatche get's moved to Center depending on who's available when ? It would allow us more flexability to pick up Favors, Cousins, Monroe etc. IMO he has the size to play center in today's NBA. Other than Dwight Howard and maybe Bynum, who else would completely body him down low. Especially if he puts on muscle this off season.
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nate33 wrote:verbal8 wrote:nate33 wrote:If we retain Livingston, I'm not so sure Turner would be such a good fit. We'd already have Livingston, Arenas and Blatche who would have the ball in their hands most of the time. Turner is another ball dominator who's talents might be wasted on this ball club. With that in mind, if we had the #2 pick, would it make sense to trade down to #3 or #4 for Favors or Turner?
For argument's sake, let's assume we drafted Turner at #2 and Minnesota was on the clock at #4 with Favors still on the board. What would it cost for Minnesota to trade for Turner's rights? (Minnesota also has the #16 pick this year.)
I might do it if they gave up the #16 and gave us the unconditional right to swap picks next year. We could also give them the #30 since we might not want too many rookies in one season.
As the Wizards GM I would ask for Love to trade up. I would offer Nick Young and/or Al Thornton to them and the 30th pick.
If Favors or some wildcard goes at 3 and leaves Cousins available at 4, I might be willing to make the swap just for a 16/30 swap, maybe the Wizards should get a future 2nd also.
I think going for Love is too extreme. They'd never agree to that. The 16/30 swap alone isn't enough. I like the idea of an unconditional pick swap in 2011. You never know, that could be a #1 pick in the draft.
I might go for the 2nd and 30th for Love, the 16th and 26th. That lets them get Turner and probably Favors.