Trade Idea Thread

[Recently]

If it was blake for a top 2 pick maybe. 4th pick? No. If we aren't getting Wall or Turner or Cousins, why would we downgrade?

So, if you could get the #3 pick (which would get you one of Cousins, Turner, or Wall), as well as a lesser talent wing player but still very cheap, and a late first rounder or an early second rounder, in exchange for your lottery pick and Blake Griffin, you would do it?

Probably not; It depends on who the "lesser talent wing player" is. Basically You're asking would you trade a 1st overall (blake griffin) + This years pick (somewhere between 5-9 most likely) for a 3rd overall pick and a late first rounder/early second rounder + some unnamed guy. I would say no because we already have some so-so wing players; the team needs a GOOD wing player right now.

I'm against trading blake griffin in most scenarios unless we are somehow going to try to contend for a title like RIGHT NOW (which means we sign at least 1 of the big FA's and use Blake as a trade chip to S&T another big FA). Otherwise I'm more infavor of rebuilding, and I'd like to rebuild around blake. Hes no Greg Oden, yet people are quick to pull the trigger on dumping him.

[Hooch20]

This board is out of control right now. Griffin is the face of the franchise right now and he's not going anywhere. His knee was perfect during the surgery and there's no reason to not think he'll be fine next year. He had a bone spur break off and that was floating around causing problems. They cleaned that up and looked at all of the ligaments (which were all perfect) and closed him up. Griffin isn't going anywhere.

[donemilio21]

This board is out of control right now. Griffin is the face of the franchise right now and he's not going anywhere. His knee was perfect during the surgery and there's no reason to not think he'll be fine next year. He had a bone spur break off and that was floating around causing problems. They cleaned that up and looked at all of the ligaments (which were all perfect) and closed him up. Griffin isn't going anywhere.

I disagree since he hasn't played a regular season game for us. He, of course, has a significantly high value in our roster; however, he is not untradeable, yet.

[mkwest]

Griffin isn't going anywhere. The only players that you would give him up for are those that the other team isn't willing to give up.

[pspot]

Hey Raps fan, people on our board have thrown around Diddy's name a bit and was just wondering how realistic he is as an option

two ideas

All expiring (Banks, Evans and Belli) for Diddy
Jose + expiring for Diddy

not sure what Baron's value is but not sure the CLip would want Jose so I don't think that one is as realistic but all expiring for him is a pretty solid deal IMO.

and yes this would mean reggie evans and Kaman on the same team

[Recently]

I'd take Jose over Baron. Hes not going to be as flashy as baron and is a worse defender, but hes really efficient (great A/TO ratio) and a great shooter as well, both mid/long range. Jose's having a down year, but i blame that partially on Hedo who operates as a point-foward sometimes, and the fact that they instituted a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) timeshare in Tor.

[scoobs07]

Maybe on draft day they will trade the 8th pick to Philidalphia for Iguodala. They would then, still have 7 million to spend on free agents. Since Iguodala is a point forward, and is only an average three point shooter, I dont think he would be a good mix with Baron Davis. The Clippers might then in turn send Baron to the Knicks in exchange for the expiring contract of Eddy Curry. They could then target the best back court player available with the 7million they have left to spend. This could be Anthony Morrow, Kyle Korver, Raymond Felton or someone like that. Or they could trade Minisota's pick next year for Rudy Fernandez and bring back Steve Blake. Gordan could defend point guards just fine.

Potential Roster:
PF-Griffin
SF-Iguodala
C-Kaman
PG-Blake
SG-Gordan
PG/SG-Fernandez
PF-Smith
SF-Butler
C-Jordan
PG-2nd roound pick
11, 12, 13 : filled by vet minimum players

[donemilio21]

$7mil won't be enough to sign Blake, Rudy, Smith and Butler.
but since you brought it up this 2 step trade might be good.

8th pick for Iguodala
resign blake
trade Baron for to Charlotte for Diaw and Augustine
resign Butler

PG Blake/Augustine
SG Gordon/Butler/
SF Iguodala/Diaw/Butler
PF Griffin/ Diaw/Jordan
C Kaman/Jordan
+keep Mardy and Novak at minimum and the 2nd round pick.

[Recently]

Problem with picking up iggy is he's as bad/worse than baron when it comes to chucking up 3's (and not making them). Floor spacing would be horrible; I think we need to have at least 2 players able to shoot the 3 from the 1-3 positions (gordon covers 1 of them).

[scoobs07]

^I agree. Thats why in my scenario where the Clippers pick up Iggy, I have the Clippers trading Baron to the Knicks ans starting Blake or Felton (both are 36-40% three point shooters). Maybe the Clippers end up with Kyle Korver at small forward.

[scoobs07]

I guess I wouldnt mind if the Clippers used all of their capspace in bringing in Amare. The Clippers desperatly need a #1 scoring option and Amare fills that need. The only thing is, it puts Griffin on the bench and the Clippers are in love with Griffin. I suppose Amare could slide over to center for 12 minutes per game, but then that burries Jordan on the bench. Never the less, the Clippers need a go to scrorer, regardless of position.

[pageC4]

Problem with picking up iggy is he's as bad/worse than baron when it comes to chucking up 3's (and not making them). Floor spacing would be horrible; I think we need to have at least 2 players able to shoot the 3 from the 1-3 positions (gordon covers 1 of them).

Very good observation. Part of the reason why Baron's game has suffered with the Clippers is his continual insistence on going for ill advised three point shots. I'm not sure if the coaching staff had ever addressed the issue but judging by the continuation of the problem I guess either they never did or Baron just kept doing it anyway. That being said Baron can be effective if he just drove to the basket and made his points inside the paint. I would rather have him make 8 points on 4/4 shooting in the paint than 15 points on 7/23 shooting from beyond the paint like he tends to do.
I think at this point in his career he isn't quite a 20 PPG shooter anymore, but he can still be a good point guard if he just distributes the ball and only shoots wisely.

[scoobs07]

Thats true. Its not like he doesnt have any shooters to pass the ball to. Gordan, Butler, Novak, Outlaw, Blake all could shoot the ball.

[southnc]

Thats true. Its not like he doesnt have any shooters to pass the ball to. Gordan, Butler, Novak, Outlaw, Blake all could shoot the ball.

I know people have ribbed Baron about the 3pt shots, but let's look at how everyone else is doing:
-Blake is by far the deadliest (.437 3ptr, .443 overall), but is on the 2nd unit

-Outlaw is pretty good (.378 3ptr, .400 overall), also on the 2nd unit
-Eric Gordon is ok too (.371 3ptr, .449 overall) - 1st unit

-Rasul Butler is above average (.336 3ptr, .409 overall) - 1st unit, but takes a lot of 3pt shots

-Steve Novak was disappointing (.310 3ptr, .389 overall) - 3rd unit, limited play

Everyone else is abysmal.

That means Barron has Gordon (good) and Rasul (barely ok), which means he may still have to attempt some 3s to keep the opponent defense honest. imo, Rasul takes too many 3 pt attempts per his average.

Source:
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/stats?team=lac&sort=3p%&avg=pg&order=true&season=2&seasonYear=2010&split=0[/url]

[scoobs07]

Well then maybe they will go after Kyle Korver with some of their cap space. He might be the best wing player available at the right age. LeBron, Wade, Johnson are not going to sign with us.

[Sofia]

I think if we were to pick up Amare, we would probably have to ship Griffin off, unless he comes off the bench. From what I've seen and heard, his style seems too similar to Amare to play them together.

[scoobs07]

^Well, if that happens maybe the Clippers could explore trading Griffin over to the Thunder in exchange for Jeff Green. Griffin would give the thunder more of a pure power forward. His toughness would be a great compliment to the finnesse game of Durant and their starting center, Krstac. Jeff Green is more of a three, which is exactly what the Clippers need. He is only averaging 6 rebounds per game for a starting NBA power forward, that might be the worse rebounding numbers in the league. But his 15 ppg would greatly benefit the Clippers. With Amare getting 20ppg, Kaman getting 18ppg, Gordan 17ppg, Davis 15ppg, Jeff Green as the 5th option would be solid. The back up power forwad/center would be Craig Smith/DeAndre Jordan.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

We could get more for Griffin than just Green

[scoobs07]

We could get more for Griffin than just Green

Oh really? I hope your right. What do you have in mind?

[thanumba2clippersfan]

As I read more of your post I saw your understanding for trading Griffin for Green if we have Amare. But since Griffin was the first pick I would only trade him for an elite player right now and since Green is a good player I would ask for some future picks from the Thunder.

Think if the Thunder have Durant and Griffin and Griffin becomes one of the best PFs in the game while we are left with a good role player in Green that could turn out to be a borderline all star.