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I agree with you. I believe that our roster will look dramatically different when Rubio comes.
Our first step was to gut the team. To liquidate assets. Then it was to bring in assets. The final step is to turn those assets into a team with a common playing style and vision.
I believe we are stuck between 2 and 3 right now. Rubio's alleged commitment to playing here will see a transition from 2 to 3. I think we will notice this with players being targeted.
A good example is that the argument can be made that Darko, Pekovic, and Favors are better big men to fit with Rubio then Al and Love. Although Al and Love (debatable) have more talent, if we transition from gathering assets to building a team we will need to get rid of at least one of them.
"whoever" is making the decisions believes that Rubio can play with Wall or Turner. At least that is what I know.
If we could somehow come away from this draft with Turner/Rubio and Favors it would be considered an amazing success. Flynn/Al/Love could be the pieces to make this happen.
Our first step was to gut the team. To liquidate assets. Then it was to bring in assets. The final step is to turn those assets into a team with a common playing style and vision.
I believe we are stuck between 2 and 3 right now. Rubio's alleged commitment to playing here will see a transition from 2 to 3. I think we will notice this with players being targeted.
A good example is that the argument can be made that Darko, Pekovic, and Favors are better big men to fit with Rubio then Al and Love. Although Al and Love (debatable) have more talent, if we transition from gathering assets to building a team we will need to get rid of at least one of them.
"whoever" is making the decisions believes that Rubio can play with Wall or Turner. At least that is what I know.
If we could somehow come away from this draft with Turner/Rubio and Favors it would be considered an amazing success. Flynn/Al/Love could be the pieces to make this happen.
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revprodeji wrote:I agree with you. I believe that our roster will look dramatically different when Rubio comes.
Our first step was to gut the team. To liquidate assets. Then it was to bring in assets. The final step is to turn those assets into a team with a common playing style and vision.
I believe we are stuck between 2 and 3 right now. Rubio's alleged commitment to playing here will see a transition from 2 to 3. I think we will notice this with players being targeted.
A good example is that the argument can be made that Darko, Pekovic, and Favors are better big men to fit with Rubio then Al and Love. Although Al and Love (debatable) have more talent, if we transition from gathering assets to building a team we will need to get rid of at least one of them.
"whoever" is making the decisions believes that Rubio can play with Wall or Turner. At least that is what I know.
If we could somehow come away from this draft with Turner/Rubio and Favors it would be considered an amazing success. Flynn/Al/Love could be the pieces to make this happen.
Nice. That's exactly the offseason I'm hoping for and expecting. I'm also prepared to be disappointed.
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revprodeji wrote:If we could somehow come away from this draft with Turner/Rubio and Favors it would be considered an amazing success. Flynn/Al/Love could be the pieces to make this happen.
If Kahn does it, you must change Minneapolis x Kahnneapolis.
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revprodeji wrote:If we could somehow come away from this draft with Turner/Rubio and Favors it would be considered an amazing success. Flynn/Al/Love could be the pieces to make this happen.
That would be fantastic. Especially if we could add someone at SF with some size, potential to space the floor, and either a good BBIQ and/or athleticism, like Hayward, George, Singler or Hobson.
"A while back,'' Cardinal said, "I took a picture of the standings and texted it to Love, just to bust his chops,'' Cardinal said. "He sent me a picture back of a snowdrift.''
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The continued comment about the draft is to add 2 impact players. I personally do not think it is logical to consider the Char pick as something that will bring in an impact player. So to me that means there are plans.
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I have heard positives about hayward and Singler with the Utah pick. Could just be smoke.
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revprodeji wrote:I have heard positives about hayward and Singler with the Utah pick. Could just be smoke.
I would be fine with either
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If we could somehow come away from this draft with Turner/Rubio and Favors it would be considered an amazing success. Flynn/Al/Love could be the pieces to make this happen.
This would be amazing. If Kahn could somehow turn Flynn + Love/Al into Favors and we get an athletic wing like Paul George/Devin Ebanks/Stanley Robinson I would almost forget about Curry over Flynn. Resign Darko and use the rest of our cap space to facilitate trades and leave us with some flexibility for next trade deadline or summer.
(Rubio)/Sessions
Turner/Ellington
Brewer/UTA pick
(Al or Love)/Favors
Darko/Favors
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revprodeji wrote:I have heard positives about hayward and Singler with the Utah pick. Could just be smoke.
If we walked away from this draft with Turner, Favors and one of Hayward, Hobson or Singler, while keeping Rubio I'd be pretty excited about the rebuilding process. Then maybe make a move for Outlaw, or even Amir Johnson in free agency (if we end up trading both Al and Love).
Darko/Pekovic/Hollins
Favors/Outlaw or Johnson
Brewer/one of Hayward/Hobson/Singler
Turner/Ellington
Rubio/Sessions or Flynn
"A while back,'' Cardinal said, "I took a picture of the standings and texted it to Love, just to bust his chops,'' Cardinal said. "He sent me a picture back of a snowdrift.''
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Are you talking seriously about keep Rubio and get Turner & Favors only using the draft pick + Jefferson, Love and Flynn?
I think this is a castle in the air. First, you must have 1# or 2# pick. Second, you must can pick Turner. Third, you must convince the team wich picked Favors.
I correct, the state of Minnesota must be named Kahnnesota if he can do it without a lot of money. You must think about what you say to the teams which want Rubio, because you will go to hear the same words about Favors. (*)
(*) I think that Turner will be picked before Favors, I think that Turner and Wall will be the two first picks, and I am think that if Wall is picked by Minnesota, he wont be traded.
I think this is a castle in the air. First, you must have 1# or 2# pick. Second, you must can pick Turner. Third, you must convince the team wich picked Favors.
- - Flynn? A PG who doesn't know lead his team, a PG who hasn't offball game, a PG who is like a zero at the left when he defends.
- Love? A player who isn't starter in the worst team of the NBA, at least at the last 30 games.
- Jefferson? A excellent player but with a lot of doubts about health, fellowship and conduct.
I correct, the state of Minnesota must be named Kahnnesota if he can do it without a lot of money. You must think about what you say to the teams which want Rubio, because you will go to hear the same words about Favors. (*)
(*) I think that Turner will be picked before Favors, I think that Turner and Wall will be the two first picks, and I am think that if Wall is picked by Minnesota, he wont be traded.
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Love might not start, but he's still arguably the best player on the team and has the value of a top 10 pick.
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Klomp wrote:revprodeji wrote:I have heard positives about hayward and Singler with the Utah pick. Could just be smoke.
I would be fine with either
at that point in the draft, Singler would be a great get

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Worm Guts wrote:Love might not start, but he's still arguably the best player on the team and has the value of a top 10 pick.
This is something hard of believe if you are in the Nets side. A little bit of empathy :
Would you like trade Rubio x the Nets sixth man + Keyon Dooling + Brook López?
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Nets are a bad trade target.
Favors is predicted anywhere from 3 to 5. (some 6 depending on the teams view of Johnson, AFA, Cousins). There are teams that would rather have the offensive ability of an Al Jefferson, rather than a defensive prospect that is raw in Favors. I think Favor's offensive will be either based on a strong playmaking pg (rubio) or from offensive rebounding. His game does not seem to be the kind that can create its own offense. He reminds me of a Good version of the young Kenyon Martin.
Think of the constant Detroit Rumor of Al for the top 5 pick+ contract. If we did something like that it does not take much to more from 5 to get favors if we are willing to include a Flynn type.
We also have pekovic as an asset, and we are not exploring the cap aspect. We can make a trade where we assume cap space in order to bring an asset.
Nets? Not a good trade partner IMO. Unless they get the 3rd/4th and feel that love/Jefferson are a better fit then Favors. (Plausable)
Pistons? I think a good partner. Lots of bad contracts and they lack a post scorer. If they do not make a shake up move they will be in mid lotto hell for a while.
Warriors? Nobody knows what Nelson is planning, but they have bad contracts and Curry would look good with a post threat.
Kings? I could see them liking Flynn next to Evans.
There are possibilities out there. I am not saying it will happen, just that I believe this summer is about forming a team around Rubio.
Something is to remember is that while teams doubt Favors offensive ability, teams are scared of the off-court stuff with Cousins. I could see a GM moving the pick for a player rather than risking Cousins.
Favors is predicted anywhere from 3 to 5. (some 6 depending on the teams view of Johnson, AFA, Cousins). There are teams that would rather have the offensive ability of an Al Jefferson, rather than a defensive prospect that is raw in Favors. I think Favor's offensive will be either based on a strong playmaking pg (rubio) or from offensive rebounding. His game does not seem to be the kind that can create its own offense. He reminds me of a Good version of the young Kenyon Martin.
Think of the constant Detroit Rumor of Al for the top 5 pick+ contract. If we did something like that it does not take much to more from 5 to get favors if we are willing to include a Flynn type.
We also have pekovic as an asset, and we are not exploring the cap aspect. We can make a trade where we assume cap space in order to bring an asset.
Nets? Not a good trade partner IMO. Unless they get the 3rd/4th and feel that love/Jefferson are a better fit then Favors. (Plausable)
Pistons? I think a good partner. Lots of bad contracts and they lack a post scorer. If they do not make a shake up move they will be in mid lotto hell for a while.
Warriors? Nobody knows what Nelson is planning, but they have bad contracts and Curry would look good with a post threat.
Kings? I could see them liking Flynn next to Evans.
There are possibilities out there. I am not saying it will happen, just that I believe this summer is about forming a team around Rubio.
Something is to remember is that while teams doubt Favors offensive ability, teams are scared of the off-court stuff with Cousins. I could see a GM moving the pick for a player rather than risking Cousins.
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