Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread

[Relentless88]

I mean bosh wants all-star wing who's available?

Joe Johnson?
Monta Ellis?
Andre Iguodala?
Devin Harris?

Second tier guys, do they keep Bosh?
Richard Hamilton
Baron Davis
Corey Maggette
MLE targets (Josh Howard, mike miller ect)

so all in all what can Evans + Banks + #13 get us. Does it get us one from the 1st group? Maybe. If you don't add the 1st I think you can get 2 from the second group but does the second group convince CB

If Bosh will for sure stay if we get someone from that first group (Not Ellis, don't want him here), then I would do something around expirings + #13 + DeRozan. I like Igoudala the most as he'll be younger and cheaper than JJ and is a better defender. Harris is a good option too if we can move Calderon.

[TGM]

I honestly think we still have a chance on retaining Bosh. BC just needs to roll the dice and at some go to guys to the team.

Two players that I think we should target are:

Rashard Lewis and Gilbert Arenas.

In the trade checker we can actually do a 2 for 5 deal.

To Washington

Jose Calderon
Hedo Turkoglu

For Gilbert Arenas

To Orlando

Andrea Bargnani
Marcus Banks
Reggie Evans

For

Rashard Lewis

Works in the trade checker.

Resign Amir Johnson

Draft a project big with the first pick

Extend Weems

Sign a C like Camby or Haywood to the MLE.

Sign Hakim Warrick

New Lineup

Gilberg Arenas - Jarret Jack
Demar Derozan - Marco Belinelli
Rashard Lewis - Sonny Weems - Hakim Warrick
Chris Bosh - Amir Johnson - Joey Dorsey
Brendan Haywood - Hassan Whiteside - Patrick O'Bryant

[Rapsobsessed7]

See I think that's too much for iggy. Yes he's a great player but with the new cba in 2011 his contract will be max money esentially

he's putting up 17,6 & 6. To me he doesn't hold value of expiring +#13 + Derozan.

Maybe this. To me this is good value

To TOR: Iguodala
To NYK: Calderon + Belinelli
To PHI: Curry + Douglas + Rights to Henry(#13)

Holiday/Douglas
Henry/Williams/Meeks
Young/Green/Kapono
Davis/Brand/Smith
Dalembert/Speights/Curry

instead of straight expiring + #13 they get added value in Douglas

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[pass first]

See I think that's too much for iggy. Yes he's a great player but with the new cba in 2011 his contract will be max money esentially

he's putting up 17,6 & 6. To me he doesn't hold value of expiring +#13 + Derozan.

Maybe this. To me this is good value

To TOR: Iguodala
To NYK: Calderon + Belinelli
To PHI: Curry + Douglas + Rights to Henry(#13)

Holiday/Douglas
Henry/Williams/Meeks
Young/Green/Kapono
Davis/Brand/Smith
Dalembert/Speights/Curry

instead of straight expiring + #13 they get added value in Douglas

J

Throw in Evans, Banks, Rasho for Dalembert. Might give them more incentive and then we can tke douglas

Don't think NY is game unless they strike gold and all they need is a pg and for some reason they love José more than a cheaper Steve Blake, Ridnour, or whatever FA is available, either in S&T or just in FA.

[CapeCrusader]

Out of the first tier guys listed above...Iggy would be the most realistic. Joe Johnson is gonna get big money that we won't have to sign him, plus I feel Iggy is a better defender too.

As I mentioned in my poster about landing Rip and Howard. I think by adding those two players while getting rid of Turk will excite Bosh to stay. Landing Iggy would for sure.

[junot111]

if Kings don't get Turner

TOR sends:
Hedo Turkoglu

SAC sends:
Andres Nocioni

Raps dump ball, Kings make a big upgrade and get a playmaker in the lineup to cure the black hole that is Tyreke Evans

Raps send:
Chris Bosh
Jose Calderon
Marco Bellinelli

Hornets send:
Emeka Okafor
Darren Collison
Peja Stojakovic

Hornets get allstar PF, and backcourt depth
Raps get rid of CB4

Trade #13 for Thunder's #21 + #26
Draft Paul George and Willie Warren

Sign Joel Anthony to majority of MLE
Re-sign Amir Johnson


ok lets go

C: Okafor/Anthony
PF: Bargnani/Amir
SF: George/Nocioni/Stojakovic
SG: Weems/DeRozan/Warren
PG: Collison/Jack

[bboyskinnylegs]

Any way we can get OJ Mayo? With Memphis committing to spending on Gay, and giving up a 1st to get Brewer, I think there is a real possibility they would move Mayo (especially considering the trade proposal with Mayo+Thabeet for Monta). I think he could take on a much bigger role here than on Memphis, and he would probably satisfy Bosh's demands as well (while not screwing up our future if Bosh bolts)

[Strategist1]

Toronto receives: Danny Granger (Indiana), Luther Head

Indiana receives: Reggie Evans, Marcus Banks, Sonny Weems, 2010 1st round pick, Future 2nd round pick

[RapsGM]

Toronto receives: Danny Granger (Indiana), Luther Head

Indiana receives: Reggie Evans, Marcus Banks, Sonny Weems, 2010 1st round pick, Future 2nd round pick

I doubt Indiana does that but if they do i am wet in my pants.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Toronto receives: Danny Granger (Indiana), Luther Head

Indiana receives: Reggie Evans, Marcus Banks, Sonny Weems, 2010 1st round pick, Future 2nd round pick

I doubt Indiana does that but if they do i am wet in my pants.

Im not so high on Granger. He would be acceptable I guess, but only if Bosh stays. If Bosh bolts, he would just add to the list of bad contracts we have on this team, we create more redundancy with Hedo (who can't be traded) and while he scores a lot, he isn't very efficient. That's why I'd rather go for talented young players (who don't have bloated contracts) like Mayo and Collison, who can be integral pieces of our team even if Bosh leaves. What's your take on Granger defensively anyways?

[junot111]

I agree with you. Granger is a nice player but like you said if Bosh leaves we'd be worse off than Indiana is now. If Bosh stays then it's an interesting combination, but of course there's the matter of Hudo..

Granger is a good defensive player, but because he's been the Pacers focal point on offense he's sacrificed his D, now I'd say it's average with potential to be good at times

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I would say Monta Ellis would be a good acquisition only if it were not for the fact that Jay Triano is coaching this team.

Let's face it, Monta Ellis needs a hard-nosed coach. Don Nelson has instilled some bad habits in this guy...basically, he lets him play with free reign. Jay Triano would do the same thing.

Monta Ellis could be great under a Larry Brown, for example. Say what you want about Monta Ellis, that he's a chucker, a malcontent, etc., but he's a gifted scorer having watched him a lot on the Warriors feed. He can get into the painted area AT WILL.

So I would say he would be a good acquisition only if it were not for Jay Triano being the coach of this team. He would be even more a chucker here than with Golden State, and that's hard to do.

[Rapsobsessed7]

no way Indiana does that. Come on, they turned down Jefferson for Granger but theyd do expiring + #13 for him...

[TorontoSF]

I heard that the Hornets want to trade Chris Paul because they want to save money. If that is true, I say we throw EVERYTHING except Bosh at them and try and get Chris Paul here. That includes Bargnani, Weems, DeRozan. Anyone on this team and we fill the holes later if we can manage to get Paul and Bosh on the same team.

And then plan B would be to trade Collison, but knowing the Hornets they want to save money and Collison is great AND cheap.

[bboyskinnylegs]

I heard that the Hornets want to trade Chris Paul because they want to save money. If that is true, I say we throw EVERYTHING except Bosh at them and try and get Chris Paul here. That includes Bargnani, Weems, DeRozan. Anyone on this team and we fill the holes later if we can manage to get Paul and Bosh on the same team.

And then plan B would be to trade Collison, but knowing the Hornets they want to save money and Collison is great AND cheap.

If they were really ready to move Paul, Bosh is by no means off limits. Paul is a legit top 5-10 player in the league, has proven he can make his teammates better, and has carried his team in the playoffs in the West (weren't they a #2 seed like 2-3 years ago?) In any case, I think Collison is more easily attainable (I think a simple salary dump would be enough to get him with some combination of Okafor Posey, Peja, Peterson) without us having to give up any significant pieces from our end.

[TorontoSF]

I heard that the Hornets want to trade Chris Paul because they want to save money. If that is true, I say we throw EVERYTHING except Bosh at them and try and get Chris Paul here. That includes Bargnani, Weems, DeRozan. Anyone on this team and we fill the holes later if we can manage to get Paul and Bosh on the same team.

And then plan B would be to trade Collison, but knowing the Hornets they want to save money and Collison is great AND cheap.

If they were really ready to move Paul, Bosh is by no means off limits. Paul is a legit top 5-10 player in the league, has proven he can make his teammates better, and has carried his team in the playoffs in the West (weren't they a #2 seed like 2-3 years ago?) In any case, I think Collison is more easily attainable (I think a simple salary dump would be enough to get him with some combination of Okafor Posey, Peja, Peterson) without us having to give up any significant pieces from our end.

They wouldn't want Bosh because of his salary. Thats why I would look to move our pick and players on cheap contracts, which would really incite them. Then you have to move some salary also to match the salaries. The reason i want Paul would be because it would make Bosh stay. And with those two as our cornerstones, you can fill the rest of the team with scrubs and at least get into the playoffs. Then you build from there.

[Rapsobsessed7]

atually what if you do this. The luxury tax is supposed to be at 68 million. Philly is at 66 million, after signing their pick they will be at about 69.3 million (so over the tax). To me this is fair for everyone. Also goes with what BC is trying to move (Calderon + Evans)

To TOR: Iguodala + Walton
To LAL: Calderon + Green + 2011 PHI 2nd Round Pick
To PHI: Sasha + Evans + Rights to Henry (#13) + Lakers 2011 1st Round Pick + 6 million TE

Philly sends out 16 million, gets back 10. Get Henry who fits better beside Jrue + Lakers 2011 1st Round Pick. Cut Iggys 13 + million in 2011 while getting a 1st instead of the 2nd. This would help them have room for a max player in 2011.

LAL sends out Waltons contract and gets Jose whos 2.5 million more expensive than Walton so thats a upgrade for them. The phi 2nd round basically is unguaranteed salary and likely to be high too.

Toronto gets Iggy.

Jack/Duhon(signed)/Banks
Iguodala/Derozan/Belinelli
Hedo/Weems/Walton
Bosh/Johnson/Dorsey
Bargnani/Powell/C (signed)

solid team, keeps Bosh, everyone is happy. Jack gets to start, good ball handling. Good PF/C rotation and i like the overall team.

Holiday/Williams/FA
Henry/Sasha/Meeks
Young/Kapono
Davis/Brand/Evans
Dalembert/Speights/Smith

under luxury tax. Have the ability to sign some other players to minimum contracts but get under the tax + get some 1st rounders for Iggy (Henry + Lakers)

Calderon/Fisher/Collins(Mem 2nd)
Bryant/Green
Artest/Brown
Gasol/Odom
Bynum/FA/Pittman(LAL 2nd)

get a solid triangle PG, one whos defensive liabilities can be masked in LAL. Good shooter and ball handler, also get some scoring off the bench in Green

i think this deal is more than reasonable and has a realistic shot at happening.

[Shevy]

Does anyone know if Portland would ever consider trading Greg Oden?

[FireColangelo]

Best and probably most realistic option to me is this line-up.

Gilbert Arenas
Sonny Weems
Andre Iguodala
Chris Bosh
Bargnani or #13 pick.

We can trade for AI and hopefully keep our pick and Jack. While for Arenas we can dish out one of our bad contracts since he has the max. Or instead of Arenas we can try to entire Joe Johnson with a lot of money lol.

[junot111]

atually what if you do this. The luxury tax is supposed to be at 68 million. Philly is at 66 million, after signing their pick they will be at about 69.3 million (so over the tax). To me this is fair for everyone. Also goes with what BC is trying to move (Calderon + Evans)

To TOR: Iguodala + Walton
To LAL: Calderon + Green + 2011 PHI 2nd Round Pick
To PHI: Sasha + Evans + Rights to Henry (#13) + Lakers 2011 1st Round Pick + 6 million TE

Philly sends out 16 million, gets back 10. Get Henry who fits better beside Jrue + Lakers 2011 1st Round Pick. Cut Iggys 13 + million in 2011 while getting a 1st instead of the 2nd. This would help them have room for a max player in 2011.

LAL sends out Waltons contract and gets Jose whos 2.5 million more expensive than Walton so thats a upgrade for them. The phi 2nd round basically is unguaranteed salary and likely to be high too.

Toronto gets Iggy.

Jack/Duhon(signed)/Banks
Iguodala/Derozan/Belinelli
Hedo/Weems/Walton
Bosh/Johnson/Dorsey
Bargnani/Powell/C (signed)

solid team, keeps Bosh, everyone is happy. Jack gets to start, good ball handling. Good PF/C rotation and i like the overall team.

Holiday/Williams/FA
Henry/Sasha/Meeks
Young/Kapono
Davis/Brand/Evans
Dalembert/Speights/Smith

under luxury tax. Have the ability to sign some other players to minimum contracts but get under the tax + get some 1st rounders for Iggy (Henry + Lakers)

Calderon/Fisher/Collins(Mem 2nd)
Bryant/Green
Artest/Brown
Gasol/Odom
Bynum/FA/Pittman(LAL 2nd)

get a solid triangle PG, one whos defensive liabilities can be masked in LAL. Good shooter and ball handler, also get some scoring off the bench in Green

i think this deal is more than reasonable and has a realistic shot at happening.

if we did that I'd rather finish it off by sending Hudo, Weems, Bosh to NOH for Collison, Stojakovic, Oak

sign Joel Anthony

Collison/Jack
Iguodala/DeRozan
Predrag/Walton
Bargz/AmirJ
Okafor/Anthony

solid at every position. 3 and 5 are weakest but Stojakovic can hit open shots generated by Collison and Iggy, and Walton plays a pseudo-Turkoglu role with the 2nd unit as a point forward

Oak and Joell patrol the paint, Bargnani has the reigns to work in the post on offense