Operation Beast: Prospect Thread II

[Krapinsky]

Yes. 23 is all about "falling" or prospects.

Warren is getting ripped on because he cannot run the pg or be the man on offense. But could he be a Fisher type of pg in the triangle offense? I think so.

Warren is short, but pretty long. A bonus if you will is that, yeah, he could probably back up the point, but I think he could be a potential starting 2 guard for us too.

[Krapinsky]

Although he did proclaim "I like big booties and big ass titties", so I guess we're on good terms again.

hhahahaha

[revprodeji]

Yes. 23 is all about "falling" or prospects.

Warren is getting ripped on because he cannot run the pg or be the man on offense. But could he be a Fisher type of pg in the triangle offense? I think so.

Warren is short, but pretty long. A bonus if you will is that, yeah, he could probably back up the point, but I think he could be a potential starting 2 guard for us too.

Then it seems like a good situation. We have a "goal" of possibly being a starting SG, but we also have a role for him if and when he fails to achieve the starting SG spot.

[Krapinsky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68C9L4SPud8

INSANE Warren dunk. Kid's athleticism is off the charts.

[Klomp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68C9L4SPud8

INSANE Warren dunk. Kid's athleticism is off the charts.

Who was it that shot up the charts during draft workouts? I believe he was a smallish SG w/ PG possibilities......was that Foye?

[AQuintus]

Warren is short, but pretty long. A bonus if you will is that, yeah, he could probably back up the point, but I think he could be a potential starting 2 guard for us too.

I don't see it. To me it looks like a he has a relatively short wingspan. I'm guessing he'll measure out similar to Foye 6'3" - 6'4" with around a 6'6" wingspan. Good for a PG but short for anyone who's supposed to play time at the SG.

If the choice is between Warren and Bradley, I'd go Bradley every time. They both have questionable size and PG skills, but at least Bradley projects to be an elite defender.

[Esohny]

Although he did proclaim "I like big booties and big ass titties", so I guess we're on good terms again.

I'd want George even if he didn't have obviously spectacular taste.

[shangrila]

Warren is short, but pretty long. A bonus if you will is that, yeah, he could probably back up the point, but I think he could be a potential starting 2 guard for us too.

I don't see it. To me it looks like a he has a relatively short wingspan. I'm guessing he'll measure out similar to Foye 6'3" - 6'4" with around a 6'6" wingspan. Good for a PG but short for anyone who's supposed to play time at the SG.

If the choice is between Warren and Bradley, I'd go Bradley every time. They both have questionable size and PG skills, but at least Bradley projects to be an elite defender.

While I'd normally agree, Krap has got me thinking that Bradley's lack of any point guard skills could be a serious problem, even on this team, this system and as a backup. And I doubt Bradley measures out much better then Warren, as he looks more 6 foot then 6-2 although he should have a longer wingspan.

In the end I think Warren has the better chance of being a combo guard off the bench then Bradley as I think he'll be better at guarding SGs then Bradley. And as much as people might not like it I think the team could use some of the swagger he brings.

[Casperkid23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68C9L4SPud8

INSANE Warren dunk. Kid's athleticism is off the charts.

I don't think he's a top-tier athlete, and maybe not even a great athlete for his size. Above average or good athlete for a 6-3 NBA player? Yeah.

I didn't find the dunk that impressive really.

[Krapinsky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68C9L4SPud8

INSANE Warren dunk. Kid's athleticism is off the charts.

I don't think he's a top-tier athlete, and maybe not even a great athlete for his size. Above average or good athlete for a 6-3 NBA player? Yeah.

I didn't find the dunk that impressive really.

Really? For an in-game dunk I think that is pretty incredible.
More dunks at 1:07.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCzvoywzRwY

[Casperkid23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68C9L4SPud8

INSANE Warren dunk. Kid's athleticism is off the charts.

I don't think he's a top-tier athlete, and maybe not even a great athlete for his size. Above average or good athlete for a 6-3 NBA player? Yeah.

I didn't find the dunk that impressive really.

Really? For an in-game dunk I think that is pretty incredible.
More dunks at 1:07.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCzvoywzRwY

I think it's relatively commonplace in the NBA, and I could name probably 15-20 NBA players around his size who could get up as high or higher using this list as a reference to heights:

http://tinyurl.com/yyedd5g

[horaceworthy]

Warren is short, but pretty long. A bonus if you will is that, yeah, he could probably back up the point, but I think he could be a potential starting 2 guard for us too.

I don't see it. To me it looks like a he has a relatively short wingspan. I'm guessing he'll measure out similar to Foye 6'3" - 6'4" with around a 6'6" wingspan. Good for a PG but short for anyone who's supposed to play time at the SG.

If the choice is between Warren and Bradley, I'd go Bradley every time. They both have questionable size and PG skills, but at least Bradley projects to be an elite defender.

Good call. Warren measured 6'3.5" in shoes with a 6'6" wingspan at LeBron's camp last year, which puts him squarely in Foye's 6'3.25", 6'6.25" territory.

I also prefer Bradley due to his defensive capability, and for the moment I'll give him credit for being better off the bounce than was shown this year due to Rick Barnes not being the brightest bulb on the tree (although the inability to get to the line is a bit worrisome).

I'd probably prefer Elliot Williams to either of them if we went for a combo/undersized SG with the Utah pick. He gets to the line better than Bradley, takes better care of the ball than Warren, and while at Duke he showed great defensive potential. Plus he's got the whole lefty angle working for him.

[Krapinsky]

I don't know, if we could get Randy Foye 2.0 with perhaps a little more explosiveness with the #23 pick I would be pretty happy about that. Bradley can guard points really well sure, but if he can't play the point then what good is that? Unless we have Turner or Evans, I'm not sure I want a player at the point that only looks for his own shot.

[revprodeji]

Foye could not play traditional pg, but the pg in the triangle offense is typically not a traditional pg. Think of Fisher, think of Harper and Kerr, Hodge and the others. If he can defend the pg then he would be fine.

[PeeDee]

Speaking of twitter feeds, check out Evan Turner's: http://twitter.com/thekidet
There's a tweet on there that should make Wolves fans smile...

[Klomp]

Speaking of twitter feeds, check out Evan Turner's: http://twitter.com/thekidet
There's a tweet on there that should make Wolves fans smile...

LOL that funny

[AQuintus]

I don't know, if we could get Randy Foye 2.0 with perhaps a little more explosiveness with the #23 pick I would be pretty happy about that.

Yeah, I wouldn't complain about that either unless there are even better players available. And there probably will be.

Bradley can guard points really well sure, but if he can't play the point then what good is that?

I would say that he could play the point about as well as Warren, which isn't much at all. All three of Bradley, Warren, and Williams would be big projects as far as trying to convert them from undersized SGs to combo guards. Williams is probably the most advanced offensively, Bradley is the most advanced defensively and might be the best shooter, and Warren really doesn't have a ton going for him especially when you consider that he's apparently a big headcase.

Unless we have Turner or Evans, I'm not sure I want a player at the point that only looks for his own shot.

I thought this whole discussion was based around us getting Turner with the 2 pick. If we don't get him, I really wouldn't want a combo guard at all.

[revprodeji]

If we move Flynn, then we can draft a pg with that 23rd pick that fits in the triangle mold. (Warren/Bradley/Williams) Let Sessions start and then move him in the off-season. Bring Rubio over with his back-up in place.

Clearly Combo-guard is the likely value pick at the 23rd unless someone drops.

[Klomp]

I'm growing more interested in Bradley at 23, especially if we drafted Turner (like rev said, and if we traded Flynn). I think he has Westbrook-type game on defense. One of the things DX said is that he would benefit playing along a bigger shot creator who can defend 2s. I'd say Turner is a good example of that.

If he impresses at workouts enough and starts to climb, I'd be fine taking him at 16. Having a 4 guard rotation of Sessions & Bradley / Turner & Brewer would be solid.

I'm interested to see what happens with our picks. I don't think we'll see three 1st round rookies on our roster next year.

[Krapinsky]

I liked Bradley for one day last week, but right now I think there's better talent with the Utah pick.

I thought this was particularly concerning: -- (DX)

The interesting thing about Bradley’s shot is that in spite of having very good form, boasting great elevation and a high and quick release, he’s still prone to many shots that completely miss the mark, and he’s shooting a surprisingly poor 55% from the free-throw line (albeit on a limited 66 attempts).

Speaking of free throws, another major problem area in Bradley’s game is his inability to get to the line, something that most combo guards in today’s NBA are expected to do. He ranks dead last in free throws attempted per-40 minutes pace adjusted amongst all players in our 2010 or 2011 mock drafts in fact, drawing just 66 attempts in 1000 minutes this season, or one for every 15 minutes he’s on the floor.