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Re: Sixerfan coaching search/offseason thread 1.0 

Post#21 » by Maeiv » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:18 am

Ganon19 wrote:
Maeiv wrote:Of course the usual suspects:
Avery Johnson
Jeff Van Gundy
Doug Collins

I don't think those coaches are going to be dying to coach the Sixers, a team that seems to fire their coaches left and right. Coaches want job security. And didn't Collins express sentiments last year on not wanting to coach the Sixers? Not too sure.

What I do see happening is the Sixers hiring a guy like Lawrence Frank, Sam Mitchell, or Tom Thibodeau.


Shame, as bad as Eddie Jordan was, I would have given him one more year before firing him. Now the Sixers have to pay Eddie Jordan to do nothing.



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Post#22 » by The Guilty Party » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:46 am

Take it for what it's worth but Eskin reported the following on Sports Final tonight...

- It's still 50/50 that Stefanski keeps his job

- Stefanski is NOT the only person conducting the coaching search and even though a coach may be hired, it's possible Stefanski will still be canned

- The Sixers would offer Larry Brown the coaching position but NOT the GM

- The Sixers will NOT hire any assistant coaches (so long Laimbeer and Thibodeau) or college coaches

- They main targets are Doug Collins. Jeff Van Gundy, and Avery Johnson. He believes Johnson goes to New Orleans (that's been rumored for a month now) and that JVG will be the main target
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Re: The Coaching Search Thread 

Post#23 » by Foshan » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:46 am

The Guilty Party wrote:Take it for what it's worth but Eskin reported the following on Sports Final tonight...

- It's still 50/50 that Stefanski keeps his job

- Stefanski is NOT the only person conducting the coaching search and even though a coach may be hired, it's possible Stefanski will still be canned

- The Sixers would offer Larry Brown the coaching position but NOT the GM

- The Sixers will NOT hire any assistant coaches (so long Laimbeer and Thibodeau) or college coaches

- They main targets are Doug Collins. Jeff Van Gundy, and Avery Johnson. He believes Johnson goes to New Orleans (that's been rumored for a month now) and that JVG will be the main target


Ug. All that news is filled with fail. If we hire some half@$$'d retread I'm done with this team, even if we land the #1, I'll start to follow a different team.
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Re: The Coaching Search Thread 

Post#24 » by bdownbear » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:11 am

Foshan wrote:
The Guilty Party wrote:Take it for what it's worth but Eskin reported the following on Sports Final tonight...

- It's still 50/50 that Stefanski keeps his job

- Stefanski is NOT the only person conducting the coaching search and even though a coach may be hired, it's possible Stefanski will still be canned

- The Sixers would offer Larry Brown the coaching position but NOT the GM

- The Sixers will NOT hire any assistant coaches (so long Laimbeer and Thibodeau) or college coaches

- They main targets are Doug Collins. Jeff Van Gundy, and Avery Johnson. He believes Johnson goes to New Orleans (that's been rumored for a month now) and that JVG will be the main target


Ug. All that news is filled with fail. If we hire some half@$$'d retread I'm done with this team, even if we land the #1, I'll start to follow a different team.


What's wrong with JVG??
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Post#25 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:18 pm

bdownbear wrote:
Foshan wrote:
The Guilty Party wrote:Take it for what it's worth but Eskin reported the following on Sports Final tonight...

- It's still 50/50 that Stefanski keeps his job

- Stefanski is NOT the only person conducting the coaching search and even though a coach may be hired, it's possible Stefanski will still be canned

- The Sixers would offer Larry Brown the coaching position but NOT the GM

- The Sixers will NOT hire any assistant coaches (so long Laimbeer and Thibodeau) or college coaches

- They main targets are Doug Collins. Jeff Van Gundy, and Avery Johnson. He believes Johnson goes to New Orleans (that's been rumored for a month now) and that JVG will be the main target


Ug. All that news is filled with fail. If we hire some half@$$'d retread I'm done with this team, even if we land the #1, I'll start to follow a different team.


What's wrong with JVG??


I would be fine with JVG. The problem is, he's rumored as the Nets top choice. Right now that job is probably more attractive to him, and we will not win a bidding war against the Nets new owner.

Doug Collins is not a choice that I'm excited or happy about.
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Re: The Coaching Search Thread 

Post#26 » by Foshan » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:27 pm

Yeah sorry, i could handle JVG, though I think he'd be very expensive, I can't see us paying the kinda money to beat the Nets out for him.

Not a big fan of Collins. Might have considered AJohnson before this EJ fiasco, but honestly right now I want to make moves for new/fresh players and new/fresh faces at all the coaching positions.
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Post#27 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:45 pm

You forget 2 things: 1: This is Howard Eskin, the only reliable source he is/has is for the Phillies. And 2: Not hiring an Assistant Coach? 1) That doesn't make sense and 2) what coach is going to agree to those terms.

What Eskin did, is what every low-level journalist does: Take a few common day rumors, add a sprinkle to it and boom.

The only thing remotely believable, are the things Tom already told us 1) That Stefanski's job is 50/50 and 2) They don't trust him completely with the hiring

Who would? It was a complete and utter farce when he said he did "research". What research did he do, that concluded(possibly) that even though Jordan had a career losing regular season AND playoff record, that Jordan was a capable coach?

Make no mistake, Jordan was the coach the minute he was fired in Washington.
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Post#28 » by Gsraider » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:11 pm

I'd take JVG any day of the week, but I'm not sure they can or will beat out the Nets to get him. JVG would get this team playing like the defensive squad they should be playing like.
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Post#29 » by bebopdeluxe » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:38 pm

I would take Collins before Avery Johnson or the Nets' retreads in a heartbeat. If that is REALLY what there are doing...if Comcast/Snider is ready to write the check to hire somebody like Collins and Stefanski is willing to give Collins the personnel input that he will demand, I am on board.

I think I'd still prefer LB (with Snow/McKie in the wings) or Laimbeer, but I would still view hiring Collins as a MAJOR upgrade.
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Post#30 » by Gsraider » Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:04 pm

bebopdeluxe wrote:I think I'd still prefer LB (with Snow/McKie in the wings) or Laimbeer, but I would still view hiring Collins as a MAJOR upgrade.


Amazingly, I would view the return of Cheeks or DiLeo as a MAJOR upgrade at this point. Clearly, my top choice is Brown, but beyond that, I would be happy with someone like JVG and possibly Collins. Not sure I really have an opinion on Laimbeer as a coaching prospect right now.

I'm just preparing myself for someone like D. Casey.
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Re: The Coaching Search Thread 

Post#31 » by dbodner » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:03 pm

And 2: Not hiring an Assistant Coach? 1) That doesn't make sense and 2) what coach is going to agree to those terms.


I think you've missed the point. It means they're not looking to make a current assistant coach the new head coach, not that whoever they hire as head coach won't get any assistants. lol.
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Post#32 » by BringBackKorver » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:33 pm

Anyone have an opinion on Mark Jackson? If he's so desperate to get a gig, we could grab him here. Might be a good guy to teach Jrue. It would also be interesting to see if we did manage to get JVG in here, if he brought Mark Jackson as an assistant.

I'm still a big fan of Avery Johnson, though I doubt he'd want to come here.
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Post#33 » by Mojo7 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:25 pm

BringBackKorver wrote:Anyone have an opinion on Mark Jackson? If he's so desperate to get a gig, we could grab him here. Might be a good guy to teach Jrue. It would also be interesting to see if we did manage to get JVG in here, if he brought Mark Jackson as an assistant.

I'm still a big fan of Avery Johnson, though I doubt he'd want to come here.


Mark Jackson will only accept a Head Coaching job. No assistantships for Mr Jackson, no sir. I don't know if I could deal with him as a head coach here. I just picture too many Post Game press conferences where Lou or Speights screws up defensively and he will keep answer every question "Hand down, Man Down!" or one of his other pet phrases.
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Post#34 » by dbodner » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:29 pm

BringBackKorver wrote:Anyone have an opinion on Mark Jackson? If he's so desperate to get a gig, we could grab him here. Might be a good guy to teach Jrue. It would also be interesting to see if we did manage to get JVG in here, if he brought Mark Jackson as an assistant.

I'm still a big fan of Avery Johnson, though I doubt he'd want to come here.


I hope somebody hires him just so he doesn't ruin any more playoff series with his broadcasting. ugh.
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Post#35 » by BringBackKorver » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:11 pm

dbodner wrote:
BringBackKorver wrote:Anyone have an opinion on Mark Jackson? If he's so desperate to get a gig, we could grab him here. Might be a good guy to teach Jrue. It would also be interesting to see if we did manage to get JVG in here, if he brought Mark Jackson as an assistant.

I'm still a big fan of Avery Johnson, though I doubt he'd want to come here.


I hope somebody hires him just so he doesn't ruin any more playoff series with his broadcasting. ugh.


We could solve half of the world's broadcasting problems by just hiring Barkley as our GM and Jackson at head coach. Then we'd just need to find a position for Joe Buck and the world would be safe from terrible color commentary.
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Post#36 » by Sixersftw » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:37 pm

Somethings are so terrible and tragic that you can't ever joke about them. The holocaust, the assassination of Martin Luther King, Joe Buck. Don't EVER joke about helping/employing Joe Buck
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Post#37 » by BringBackKorver » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:31 am

Sixersftw wrote:Somethings are so terrible and tragic that you can't ever joke about them. The holocaust, the assassination of Martin Luther King, Joe Buck. Don't EVER joke about helping/employing Joe Buck


Try living in St. Louis. I swear Joe Buck could walk into a room and throw a baby on the ground and people would just say "Do you know who his dad was?!?! Can you sign my dead baby?"
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Post#38 » by corwin » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:23 am

Saw this on the Charlotte board. If this is correct our new coach will be our old one.
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No great surprise here, but there were no significant revelations about Larry Brown’s future during Michael Jordan’s Sunday lunchtime sitdown with TNT’s John Thompson for NBA TV.

Yet the Jordan-Brown dynamic remains one of the more underrated subplots in these playoffs. For a couple reasons.

1. Brown’s ongoing tactical brilliance is one of the biggest reasons that the Charlotte Bobcats are in the playoffs for the first time and why multiple scouts I’ve consulted expect Charlotte-Orlando to be the closest thing to an up-in-the-air series in the East’s exceedingly chalky first round. “Best game coach in the NBA,” one veteran scout gushed.
2. It has been well-chronicled in recent weeks, most recently by the New York Post’s Peter Vecsey, that the Bobcats are prepared to let Brown pursue other jobs at season’s end, ostensibly because his family hasn’t moved with him to Charlotte and either wants to stay where it is in Philadelphia or move to Los Angeles, where the Sixers and Clippers just happen to have coaching openings.


The question I’d love to ask Jordan, if I were ever granted access to him, is how he could even think of letting Brown walk when the 69-year-old has had such an immediate impact with the Bobs. Charlotte’s all-in approach of the past two seasons – trading for high-dollar contracts (Stephen Jackson, Boris Diaw and DeSegana Diop) that bleed into 2011-12 or beyond – would seemingly demand that Jordan keeps Brown, because Jordan has publicly acknowledged that the Bobcats lack the financial flexibility to easily make further roster tweaks, which makes Brown’s X-and-O magic even more vital to the program.

Two sources close to the situation, however, insist that there is naturally more to Jordan’s apparent willingness to let Brown go back to the 76ers than mere benevolence regarding Brown’s family situation.

Brown is famously opinionated/meddlesome on personnel matters and that, sources say, is wearing thin in Charlotte as it has everywhere else. One source says Brown has been making and taking calls on potential trades all season, which is supposed to be the domain of MJ’s long-trusted deputy in the front office Rod Higgins.

“They are just tired of it,” says the source, who cited the example of the trade that sent Flip Murray, Acie Law and a first-round pick to Chicago for Tyrus Thomas as one of the most recent irritations, since Brown is said to have pushed for the deal initially but now frequently laments Murray’s departure because of the impact it had lessening Charlotte’s depth on the wings.

That unending urge to get involved upstairs is why another NBA coaching source insisted this week that Ed Stefanski has a decent shot to hang on Sixers GM even if Brown does return to the Sixers. Reason being: Philly knows it’ll need a front-office foil for Brown as opposed to giving him control of personnel and the bench.

But I will continue to say that the Bobcats would be taking a huge risk to let Brown go, especially if the team we’ll be seeing make its playoff debut in Orlando later Sunday night isn’t upgraded significantly before next season, which is a distinct possibility with the Bobcats having already committed more than $60 million in salary for 2010-11.

Bobcats fans have to hope that Brown is serious (for once) when he says that Charlotte will be his last coaching spot, because all of the extra angst that comes with employing Brown doesn’t change the fact that he’s one of those rare coaches who’s worth five-to-10 wins a season.

You give the Bobcats a shot to take the Magic to six or seven games because of their length and 24 fouls (Tyson Chandler, Nazr Mohammed, Theo Ratliff and Diop) to throw at Dwight Howard, their rangy swingmen (such as Jackson and Gerald Wallace) to contest Orlando’s 3-point shooters and backcourt size and speed (Raymond Felton and D.J. Augustin) to counter Jameer Nelson. Most of all, though, you give them a shot to give the Magic trouble because Brown is there on the Bobs’ bench to cause the right kind of trouble.
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Post#39 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:57 pm

Larry Brown is a terrific in-game person, there's no question. It's his volatile personality that gets him into these things. In a way, Brown and A.I were the perfect compliment. Both were greats, but both also had something that goes against them, as great as they were.

When everyone speaks of Brown, they cite his willingness to trade young players. But frankly, Larry Brown believes in guys who play the right way. Jrue Holiday, at 19 years old does play the right way. I think Brown looks at a Jrue Holiday and has a wet dream.
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Post#40 » by ankle420breaker » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:41 pm

Interesting article Corwin, but I always have trouble reading too much into anything from Marc Stein. I can't see anything real materializing before the Bobcats are out of the playoffs.

I'm still not sure how I feel about LB returning... I know he could turn us around defensively, but he's so fickle with his feelings towards his personnel. I'd like to see if any other candidates step forward and express interest before committing to Larry.

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