Ideal skill-sets for Rambis System

[sledgeross]

Didnt someone say at the TWolves that the big man who adapted the best within the Triangles structure was the now departed Nate Jawai?

[shangrila]

Clearly the difference would be that Favors would be with our top 5 pick, and Monroe would be a 10-15 if not with our Char pick.

My goal if I was the front office would be to do everything I can to bring Turner and Favors to the team this summer. Then you focus on bring in another scoring wing to fit with them and you have a long term nice team.

Don't kid yourself. Monroe will go between 5-8. Mocks that put him AFTER Ed Davis? Do those guys ever update?

I'd wait until after the combine to get all high and mighty. He MIGHT go 5-8, but he's equally got a chance to fall past 10 if he measures poorly in height, weight or athletic tools. As skilled as he is, if he's a total liability on defence or a tweener in the bad way, then nobodies going to be fighting people to get him.

[Dewey]

Can someone list the teams that run the triangle offense? Outside the LA Lakers ...

[Dewey]

The Trinagle offense is potentially the most over-rated system in the NBA. It requires high caliber players and a good coach like every other championship caliber team that has won a title. Run a triangle, square, or a pentagon style offense ... who cares. If you have the horses, you have the chance to win - consistently.

As Jordan stated - winning team have priorities and he put them in this order...
1.The players ... it's clearly a players game. You need good players. You can win with good players.

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2.The coaches ... You can love them or hate them, but we need them. They maintain team focus, manage the games, teach, and develop.
3.A system ... is merely an organizational tool

[revprodeji]

I disagree. I think the system is important, but having the right type of players that are committed to the system and to the team are important.

The triangle system is a read and reaction type system that has ball movement based on passing and overload concepts.

[Dewey]

I disagree. I think the system is important, but having the right type of players that are committed to the system and to the team are important.

The triangle system is a read and reaction type system that has ball movement based on passing and overload concepts.

Wait until Mike hears about this ...

ps. I said Trinagle in my post ... kidding (just can't spell)

[shangrila]

I disagree. I think the system is important, but having the right type of players that are committed to the system and to the team are important.

The triangle system is a read and reaction type system that has ball movement based on passing and overload concepts.

Definitely. Whatever you might think of the Triangle itself, the fact the team finally has a clear and defined system it's going to run makes things so much easier.

[revprodeji]

The 3 biggest negatives I hear about the triangle are

1.) Takes a while to learn, so new players have a growing curve

2.) Classic positional understanding is redefined. (IE, a pg does not have a pg's role)

3.) Players need to be unselfish and have a decent BBIQ.

[sledgeross]

Thats true rev, look at the Bulls in their good run. Guys like Paxson, Hodges, Kerr, Armstrong, hell, even Bobby Hansen and Jud Beuchler, won championships thanks to the Triangle. ALl they had to do was know the system, know where they were and where other players are, and stick the three when open. Playmaking skills not required, only fundamentals.

[Dewey]

Thats true rev, look at the Bulls in their good run. Guys like Paxson, Hodges, Kerr, Armstrong, hell, even Bobby Hansen and Jud Beuchler, won championships thanks to the Triangle. ALl they had to do was know the system, know where they were and where other players are, and stick the three when open. Playmaking skills not required, only fundamentals.

Listen, I understand the significance of a system to a franchise, but lets not live in bubbles...
"won championships thanks to the Triangle" You left out some significant players that had something to do with the wins. This franchise has no idea the impact Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, Shaq, etc.. have had on the success of the Triangle.

I'm ont against the Triangle ... I just believe it's extremely overrated.

[Klomp]

This franchise has no idea the impact Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, Shaq, etc.. have had on the success of the Triangle.

I'm ont against the Triangle ... I just believe it's extremely overrated.

You don't think Rambis knows how important those guys are? Teaching our current players the system now just means we'll be farther ahead once we get that stud franchise player. If you sit around waiting for a Jordan or a Bryant before installing your offensive scheme, then that player is never going to come.

[revprodeji]

Thats true rev, look at the Bulls in their good run. Guys like Paxson, Hodges, Kerr, Armstrong, hell, even Bobby Hansen and Jud Beuchler, won championships thanks to the Triangle. ALl they had to do was know the system, know where they were and where other players are, and stick the three when open. Playmaking skills not required, only fundamentals.

What did Jordan do before Jackson?

How did the bulls do with Jackson the year without Jordan?

How did the lakers do before Phil and his system?

There is something to be said about the system. It is not the only key, and it is difficult to teach, but it was a major reason for those teams success.

[horaceworthy]

The Trinagle offense is potentially the most over-rated system in the NBA. It requires high caliber players and a good coach like every other championship caliber team that has won a title. Run a triangle, square, or a pentagon style offense ... who cares. If you have the horses, you have the chance to win - consistently.

As Jordan stated - winning team have priorities and he put them in this order...
1.The players ... it's clearly a players game. You need good players. You can win with good players.

Big Gap---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2.The coaches ... You can love them or hate them, but we need them. They maintain team focus, manage the games, teach, and develop.
3.A system ... is merely an organizational tool

Every system requires high caliber players to win at a high level. Even though it may be last on that list, it's still listed as one of the three most important parts of a winning team. Even if it's merely an organizational tool, it helps to be organized. I like that we have a coach that's picked a system that could, in theory, be fun to watch. It also seems like Rambis and Kahn are on the same page as to the type of team they want to build, which is a positive. I'm more interested in the Wolves bringing in the horses to win consistently, but at least they seem to have picked a direction.

[horaceworthy]

Thats true rev, look at the Bulls in their good run. Guys like Paxson, Hodges, Kerr, Armstrong, hell, even Bobby Hansen and Jud Beuchler, won championships thanks to the Triangle. ALl they had to do was know the system, know where they were and where other players are, and stick the three when open. Playmaking skills not required, only fundamentals.

What did Jordan do before Jackson?

How did the bulls do with Jackson the year without Jordan?

How did the lakers do before Phil and his system?

There is something to be said about the system. It is not the only key, and it is difficult to teach, but it was a major reason for those teams success.

The Bulls won 50 and 47 games the two years before Jackson got there. They lost in the EC semis and the ECF, in that order. They won 55 games the year Jordan was completely gone, and 47 games the year he partially showed up for. They lost in the EC semis both years.