Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

[TribeZulu]

To that end, he will weigh his options and decide on a particular team that has cap space. The team has to have cap space or Bosh has no leverage to go to the Raps. At that point, faced with losing Bosh to that team no matter what, they might as well get some minor piece or picks back.

These people take their money very seriously, Bosh is not going to make a list of teams he wouldn't mind going to as another poster put it. He will bring to the Raps the team he is for sure going to even if the Raps don't sign him before. That way he has security in his new team and leverage over the Raps.

Bosh is looking for what's best for him, cap space or not.

As such, I disagree with your assumption that Bosh will decide on a particular team that has cap space. Bottom line is there may be more attractive locations with teams that don't have cap space. In other words, if LA or Houston is number one on his list, and Colangelo can work out a deal, then he'll likely go there instead of a team with cap space.

The key in whole equation is how many teams is Bosh interested in joining. If his heart is set on the Knicks than we'll be lucky to get .75 cents on the dollar. However, if he has two or three teams that really interest him, the chance of a better return increases.

But don't rule out the teams without cap room. That just doesn't make any sense at all.

[dagger]

I'm not particularly fond of fan fiction, but that part about calderon running the triangle was great. The triangle is not run. It calls for a pg that can defend and get to open spots to shoot. The lakers would sooner keep starting the corpse of derek fisher than take on calderon.

The corpse of Derek Fisher is shooting 30% from the field and 32% from 3. Not very Sccccarrryyyy.

[beno]

I like your thinking, but man, that's a **** load of money. Better hope LA falters badly in the playoffs.

Lakers could use Calderon. Their bench is stagnant.

[GM_JAMES]

) Bosh for Deng + 2010 1st round Pick (Pattrick Patterson/Greg Monroe): Happen before they could sign the pick on july 1st

Bulls would jump all over that. But I think you guys can do better.

Maybe Andrew Bynum & Hinrich

Bulls send Hinrich to Lakers for Sasha

Lakers send Bynum and Hinrich for Bosh

[junot111]

Would love to get Jeff Green from OKC ... don't know if OKC does it, but Bosh has a better power-forward body and is a better low post threat. Him and Durant would tear it up and make them instant contenders in the West. Green is very good, but not at Bosh's level.

I'm sure OKC would be all for it. Hopefully we could get a little more than just Green though, perhaps Maynor too. I'd love Ibaka, but I don't see that happening.

Sign+trade Bosh for Green+Maynor+Collison(expiring)

or

Sign+trade Bosh for Green + 1st + TPE

I know this isn't just a litte more but from what I've heard (can't say i've watched OKC) Harden hasn't exactly tore it up so would a d Green + Harden + Salary (Collison) for Bosh be realistic?

No it's not, Harden was the third pick in last year's draft... it's only been one year and it's not like he's a complete bust, he was a solid bench player and showed great flashes

so it's not realistic

Personally I'd like OKC's two first round picks to go along with Green

[panthermark]

This whole thing with the "list of teams" is silly. Bosh has played in the NBA for 7 years and has not signed an extension with Toronto this year for a reason.

He wants to CHOOSE his next team.....and which ever team he chooses will get him for a good deal. Bosh is going to take his time, and CHOOSE where he will spend the NEXT 6 YEARS very carefully. He may have a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice...but his 1st choice will be his 1st choice.

The notion that he will just let 3 or so teams "bid" on him does not even make sense. Do you think he is really going to let his future destination be deceided by BC in a bidding war? If he wants to win, wouldn't the "bidding" process rob the "winning" team of assets needed TO win? Also, how would that press conference go?

Reporter: "Chris...are you happy to be with X team? "
Chris: "As long as I got my $30M...I'm cool....oh, and ummm....I just want to win....or something like that......which city is this again?"

Has Bosh even mentioned he's going to give a list of teams? The only person that has mentioned that was BC....as an assumption. If Bosh wants to go to Miami...or Houston...or LA....that is where he will end up. He isn't going to end up at his "3rd" choice because that team bid the most for him.

In 7 years....2 career play-off series, 11 career play-off games, 4 career play-off wins. He is going to go where he wants to go.

[McFurious1]

Ok here we go...

Bosh, Evans (they're not taking Turk) S&T for Lee, Gallo, Curry

Lee & Belli traded to Nets for Harris, 27th pick (if Nets get Wall)

Raptors draft Xavier Henry (13th) Orton/Sanders/A BIG (27th)

We trade Calderon for Nocioni.

D. Harris/Jack/Banks
X. Henry/DeRozan/Weems
Turk/Gallo/S. Weems/Nocioni
Bargnani/Amir/Nocioni/Gallo
Curry/Amir/27th pick

We would still need to grab a big prob with the MLE.

[SaveTheHens]

I'll keep my Gortat love goin & propose a S&T to Orlando for Gortat & VC.

Lol at the VC part, hell I'd do it in a second, although obv wouldn't happen.

If Magic have enough capspace though, Gortat for Bosh I'd do too

[bballsparkin]

This whole thing with the "list of teams" is silly. Bosh has played in the NBA for 7 years and has not signed an extension with Toronto this year for a reason.

He wants to CHOOSE his next team.....and which ever team he chooses will get him for a good deal. Bosh is going to take his time, and CHOOSE where he will spend the NEXT 6 YEARS very carefully. He may have a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice...but his 1st choice will be his 1st choice.

The notion that he will just let 3 or so teams "bid" on him does not even make sense. Do you think he is really going to let his future destination be deceided by BC in a bidding war? If he wants to win, wouldn't the "bidding" process rob the "winning" team of assets needed TO win? Also, how would that press conference go?

Reporter: "Chris...are you happy to be with X team? "
Chris: "As long as I got my $30M...I'm cool....oh, and ummm....I just want to win....or something like that......which city is this again?"

Has Bosh even mentioned he's going to give a list of teams? The only person that has mentioned that was BC....as an assumption. If Bosh wants to go to Miami...or Houston...or LA....that is where he will end up. He isn't going to end up at his "3rd" choice because that team bid the most for him.

In 7 years....2 career play-off series, 11 career play-off games, 4 career play-off wins. He is going to go where he wants to go.

And then Bosh wakes up. LA and Houston can't sign Bosh outright so that means Raptors take players back. Salary back. So if Raps don't like it why should they help Bosh? It's a give and take. Sure if Bosh wants to sign with a team such as NY and Miami, the Raptors could very well have no influence on the final say. And since teams like LA and Houston have nice pieces it could very well work.

[TimoCruz]

Serge Ibaka, Jeff Green, Collison, 2 Future 2nd rounders for Chris Bosh.

[TimoCruz]

Noah + Deng for CB + Jose+ 2 seond rounders

[bboyskinnylegs]

Ok here we go...

Bosh, Evans (they're not taking Turk) S&T for Lee, Gallo, Curry

Lee & Belli traded to Nets for Harris, 27th pick (if Nets get Wall)

Raptors draft Xavier Henry (13th) Orton/Sanders/A BIG (27th)

We trade Calderon for Nocioni.

D. Harris/Jack/Banks
X. Henry/DeRozan/Weems
Turk/Gallo/S. Weems/Nocioni
Bargnani/Amir/Nocioni/Gallo
Curry/Amir/27th pick

We would still need to grab a big prob with the MLE.

If Bosh was going to NY and it came down to a Lee/Gallo for Bosh/Evans deal (I would really, really love it if it was a Lee/Gallo/Curry for Bosh/Jose though), I think we should make it a 3-way with Miami or Chicago (especially if one or both strike out with Amare/Boozer staying put).
With Miami, we go for either Beasley and/or 2010 pick, and with Chicago we can try for Asik+1st. With the TPE generated from the Lee trade, we can try to get Collison by giving NO instant capspace (Peja+Collison would be a huge steal, but i'd be ok with Songaila+Posey+Collison too).
That would mean we effectively turned Bosh into a pretty good young SF in Gallinari, a long-term answer at PG in Collison, and whatever we get from the cap team (Beasley, Asik+1st, etc). We would have a lot of expirings (if we got Peja that's 20 million to either package or expire and make a big splash next summer), lots of solid young players to build with, the MLE (I think), and one or two 1st's in this years' draft. If things pan out, great, if not, BC would have great flexibility to make some trades to address needs with a combination of expirings, young players, and picks at his disposal. Now if we need a defensive C (Thabeet), or want to make a play for a young go-to scoring wing (Mayo?), we have the assets to do so. We would probably have a solid pick to continue to build in next years' draft too. Our main goal would be moving Jose (or possibly Jack for the right return), and Hedo.

Bargs/Asik/#17-Alabi?
Amir/#13-Udoh?
Gallo/Hedo/Peja
DD/Weems/Beli
Collison/Jack/Jose/Banks

[panthermark]

And then Bosh wakes up. LA and Houston can't sign Bosh outright so that means Raptors take players back. Salary back. So if Raps don't like it why should they help Bosh? It's a give and take. Sure if Bosh wants to sign with a team such as NY and Miami, the Raptors could very well have no influence on the final say. And since teams like LA and Houston have nice pieces it could very well work.

Wake up from what?

Besides...

Because BC can't afford to risk getting NOTHING back for Bosh.

Because BC can't afford to get into a pissing match with the NBA's most powerful agency.

Because the Raptors do not want to lose ANOTHER star player in an ugly divorce.

Because BC does not want to ruin his reputation.

Bosh is the Rators all time leader in points, rebounds and blocks. Isn't he one of Canada's most popular athletes? Do you really want to end it like that? Holding out on that $30M is just bad business...no matter how you slice it.

[ATLTimekeeper]

And then Bosh wakes up. LA and Houston can't sign Bosh outright so that means Raptors take players back. Salary back. So if Raps don't like it why should they help Bosh? It's a give and take. Sure if Bosh wants to sign with a team such as NY and Miami, the Raptors could very well have no influence on the final say. And since teams like LA and Houston have nice pieces it could very well work.

Wake up from what?

Besides...

Because BC can't afford to risk getting NOTHING back for Bosh.

Because BC can't afford to get into a pissing match with the NBA's most powerful agency.

Because the Raptors do not want to lose ANOTHER star player in an ugly divorce.

Because BC does not want to ruin his reputation.

Bosh is the Rators all time leader in points, rebounds and blocks. Isn't he one of Canada's most popular athletes? Do you really want to end it like that? Holding out on that $30M is just bad business...no matter how you slice it.

Both sides have already spoken about working together should Bosh chose to leave, you can stop coming on here and presenting this angle.

[panthermark]

Both sides have already spoken about working together should Bosh chose to leave, you can stop coming on here and presenting this angle.

You are correct, and yet is still seems to be a one sided transaction in the minds of many.

Maybe I'm just looking at this wrong. This is a "sign and trade" thread that is already based on assumptions, and I'm applying other rational angles that are probably "too much"...since this is all based on conjecture anyway. But at times, I feel as if many are insulting the intelligence of Bosh, and are treating him as if he is an invalid with no particular say in his future destination….as if he is simply a prostitute that will allow himself to be pimped out to the highest bidder. He has always come off as an intelligent and independent individual, and I would think that any trade suggestion would take that into account. But again, in terms of “trade threads”….that may be too much.



So with that said, I'll get off my

[Rapsobsessed7]

Toronto Sends:
Chris Bosh $16,500,000
Jarret Jack $4,600,000
= 21,100,000

Houston Sends:
Shane Battier $7,429,500
Jared Jeffries $6,883,800
Jordan Hill $2,669,520
Aaron Brooks $2,016,692
* 2011 Houston 1st Round Pick (Option to swap with NYK)
= 18,999,512 X 1.25 + 100,000
= 23,849,390

this allows us to market the fact we got the most improved player and hes still young only 23 years old so he can be our future PG. We hopefully get a top pick with NYK like Harrison Barnes and we start the rebuild.

Brooks/Calderon/Banks
Battier/Derozan/Belinelli
Turkaglu/Weems
Bargnani/Hill/Evans
Whiteside/Johnson/Jeffries

+ 22 million in expiring contracts to go after someone.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Toronto Sends:
Chris Bosh $16,500,000
Jarret Jack $4,600,000
= 21,100,000

Houston Sends:
Shane Battier $7,429,500
Jared Jeffries $6,883,800
Jordan Hill $2,669,520
Aaron Brooks $2,016,692
* 2011 Houston 1st Round Pick (Option to swap with NYK)
= 18,999,512 X 1.25 + 100,000
= 23,849,390

this allows us to market the fact we got the most improved player and hes still young only 23 years old so he can be our future PG. We hopefully get a top pick with NYK like Harrison Barnes and we start the rebuild.

Brooks/Calderon/Banks
Battier/Derozan/Belinelli
Turkaglu/Weems
Bargnani/Hill/Evans
Whiteside/Johnson/Jeffries

+ 22 million in expiring contracts to go after someone.

A year later you're going to have to give Brooks, like, $10-15 million for doing what Jarret Jack is basically capable of. Better to have the fixed price of Jack. I don't see any value dealing with Houston unless we get both NY picks or they take back a contract like Turk and swap us Ariza. Plus I'd feel sorry for Battier having to put up with that crap-fest.

[EelamBaller]

Two trades:

Toronto sends Bosh + Jose to LA for Bynum + Shannon Brown
Bosh Gasol and Kobe will be unstoppable. Jose>>Fisher.

Toronto sends Hedo + Jack + Demar to OKC for Westbrook and Green (Ibaka is going to replace Green) Demar replaces Sefolosha

Picks up Iggy
we still have our picks.

new Toronto Line up:

Bynum/Green/POB
Bargnani/Amir/
Iggy/Shannon Brown
Weems/Wright/Marco
Westbrook/Banks (talented, but used)

Now that's an what you call a basketball team. This team can play defense and offense.

[bballsparkin]

Both sides have already spoken about working together should Bosh chose to leave, you can stop coming on here and presenting this angle.

You are correct, and yet is still seems to be a one sided transaction in the minds of many.

Maybe I'm just looking at this wrong. This is a "sign and trade" thread that is already based on assumptions, and I'm applying other rational angles that are probably "too much"...since this is all based on conjecture anyway. But at times, I feel as if many are insulting the intelligence of Bosh, and are treating him as if he is an invalid with no particular say in his future destination….as if he is simply a prostitute that will allow himself to be pimped out to the highest bidder. He has always come off as an intelligent and independent individual, and I would think that any trade suggestion would take that into account. But again, in terms of “trade threads”….that may be too much.



So with that said, I'll get off my

Perhaps you should change your location to: Toronto....but just until Bosh bolts. As it seems like most of your almost 400 posts are spent telling us Rap fans how it is going to go down.

Here are the facts as I see them. Yes, Bosh has the power to choose where he goes. No, he can not just tell BC his team without a legitimate sign and trade. They will work together as stated many times. If it means BC gets 40 cents on the dollar so be it. It doesn't mean the Raptors will accept any garbage deal thrown our way. BC has been disappointing in many regards, but smoozing agents is his MO. I'd like to think it will have some tangible benefits. And since BC has been flapping his gums all year how he will use his leverage to get something back for the Raps, we as fans will hold him accountable. Capiche?

[Rapsobsessed7]

Two trades:

Toronto sends Bosh + Jose to LA for Bynum + Shannon Brown
Bosh Gasol and Kobe will be unstoppable. Jose>>Fisher.

Toronto sends Hedo + Jack + Demar to OKC for Westbrook and Green (Ibaka is going to replace Green) Demar replaces Sefolosha

Picks up Iggy
we still have our picks.

new Toronto Line up:

Bynum/Green/POB
Bargnani/Amir/
Iggy/Shannon Brown
Weems/Wright/Marco
Westbrook/Banks (talented, but used)

Now that's an what you call a basketball team. This team can play defense and offense.

is your 2nd trade a joke or serious?