Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

[douggood]

Two trades:

Toronto sends Bosh + Jose to LA for Bynum + Shannon Brown
Bosh Gasol and Kobe will be unstoppable. Jose>>Fisher.

Toronto sends Hedo + Jack + Demar to OKC for Westbrook and Green (Ibaka is going to replace Green) Demar replaces Sefolosha

Picks up Iggy
we still have our picks.

new Toronto Line up:

Bynum/Green/POB
Bargnani/Amir/
Iggy/Shannon Brown
Weems/Wright/Marco
Westbrook/Banks (talented, but used)

Now that's an what you call a basketball team. This team can play defense and offense.

lakers trade, you can make a case, but the thunder trade is just not possible. not only do you expect them to give up a chunk of cap space they need to give up westbook who is untouchable, green could be had with the right package but not westbrook.

[andyo]

Two trades:

Toronto sends Bosh + Jose to LA for Bynum + Shannon Brown
Bosh Gasol and Kobe will be unstoppable. Jose>>Fisher.

Toronto sends Hedo + Jack + Demar to OKC for Westbrook and Green (Ibaka is going to replace Green) Demar replaces Sefolosha

Picks up Iggy
we still have our picks.

new Toronto Line up:

Bynum/Green/POB
Bargnani/Amir/
Iggy/Shannon Brown
Weems/Wright/Marco
Westbrook/Banks (talented, but used)

Now that's an what you call a basketball team. This team can play defense and offense.

lakers trade, you can make a case, but the thunder trade is just not possible. not only do you expect them to give up a chunk of cap space they need to give up westbook who is untouchable, green could be had with the right package but not westbrook.

If the lakers don't win the title, I could see the Bynum trade possibly happening. The second trade is a joke for OKC though. The return for Bosh with Bynum is probably overpayment. I don't expect to get much for Bosh, probably Beasley or Gallo at best.

[itbobby007]

**If NYN get # 1 pick and draft John Wall

TOR Outgoing: Bosh (S&T), Jack, Banks, Evans
TOR Incoming: Bynum, Harris, Brown

LA Outgoing: Bynum, Brown
LA Incoming: Bosh, Yi

NJ Outgoing: Harris, Yi,
NJ Incoming: Jack, Banks, Evans,

Bynum/(MLE or 13th pick)
Bargnani/Johnson
Turkaglu/Weems
Derozan/Brown/Belinelli
Harris/Calderon

I am a big fan of this lineup. I'd like to see a follow up deal with Calderon + 13 for another asset.

[34_fifty]

Two trades:

Toronto sends Bosh + Jose to LA for Bynum + Shannon Brown
Bosh Gasol and Kobe will be unstoppable. Jose>>Fisher.

Toronto sends Hedo + Jack + Demar to OKC for Westbrook and Green (Ibaka is going to replace Green) Demar replaces Sefolosha

Picks up Iggy
we still have our picks.

new Toronto Line up:

Bynum/Green/POB
Bargnani/Amir/
Iggy/Shannon Brown
Weems/Wright/Marco
Westbrook/Banks (talented, but used)

Now that's an what you call a basketball team. This team can play defense and offense.

what the..?

[Wasp]

Both sides have already spoken about working together should Bosh chose to leave, you can stop coming on here and presenting this angle.

You are correct, and yet is still seems to be a one sided transaction in the minds of many.

Maybe I'm just looking at this wrong. This is a "sign and trade" thread that is already based on assumptions, and I'm applying other rational angles that are probably "too much"...since this is all based on conjecture anyway. But at times, I feel as if many are insulting the intelligence of Bosh, and are treating him as if he is an invalid with no particular say in his future destination….as if he is simply a prostitute that will allow himself to be pimped out to the highest bidder. He has always come off as an intelligent and independent individual, and I would think that any trade suggestion would take that into account. But again, in terms of “trade threads”….that may be too much.



So with that said, I'll get off my

I wholeheartedly agree that Bosh will not do the whole "list of teams" bidding war like some posters think. I actually think the opposite will happen. I think BC will send out a message to all 30 teams saying "Ok guys, Bosh is leaving, present your packages for a S&T". Once he gets his offers negotiated out, he'll go to Chris and say "here are the offers we have, do any of these teams look appealing to you?" and Chris will be able to see, clearly, which teams want him and what will be coming back.

If Chris sees that a team will be gutting their roster to get him, he won't go there. I believe that the process will be very transparent, and Chris will decide where he wants to go. It doesn't mean, however, that there won't be a bidding war. If you are Houston, and you REALLY want Bosh, you're gonna put a reasonable offer in for the simply because of the Bynum rumour (Bosh on that roster on the biggest basketball stage in the world is extremely enticing, plus the move would help the Raptors). Add in the regular teams with cap space (Miami / NY / Bulls) and there will be a significant amount of offers on the table. We just have to hope that the team Bosh chooses to go to has a nice offer, because it would royally suck if Bynum is on the table but Bosh opts to go to CHI for Deng + crap. Unfortunately, there is a strong possibility of the latter happening.

[ATLTimekeeper]

^^^I'm sure Bosh, BC and whatever buyers/agents will arrange something that makes everyone look decent. It's not like BC is going to be forced taking on bad contracts just so that Bosh can go play where he wants to play, or that Bosh will be forced to play for a gutted team just because he had some interest playing for them. I think everyone's aware of the stakes. Team getting Bosh gets a great player at a discount, Bosh gets his money, and BC gets some not-as-good-as-Bosh pieces back, but something that he can take to the fans/MLSE and save some face.

[Lawnmower Man]

I want OKC as a trade partner

Harden + Ibaka + any bad contract they want to give us

for

Bosh + our first rounder this year

[RocLaFamilia]

I want OKC as a trade partner

Harden + Ibaka + any bad contract they want to give us

for

Bosh + our first rounder this year

Yeah I was thinking the same, I don't think they even have a bad contract there. But does this not create a TPE as well? that would be ideal!

[Wiz Khalifa]

Bosh for both of New Jersey's picks. Let's say they win the lottery. We draft Wall and Aldrich/Whiteside

Wall/Jack
Derozan/What we get from Jose trade/Marco
Weems/Hedo
Bargnani/Amir
Whiteside or Aldrich/Reggie

Jose gets shipped out for a shooting guard to come off the bench or if we're lucky a player good enough to start.

Look at that starting lineup. Dam that's young. We have scoring, play-making, and an intimidator in the post (whiteside averaged 5.4 blocks in NCAA)

[Wiz Khalifa]

I want OKC as a trade partner

Harden + Ibaka + any bad contract they want to give us

for

Bosh + our first rounder this year

Yeah I was thinking the same, I don't think they even have a bad contract there. But does this not create a TPE as well? that would be ideal!

Harden is not good. Ibaka is like a better version of Pops Mensa Bonsu. AND OUR FIRST ROUNDER? psh

[N1QUE24]

Bosh for both of New Jersey's picks. Let's say they win the lottery. We draft Wall and Aldrich/Whiteside

Can I have whatever your smoking? Seriously?

[Lawnmower Man]

I want OKC as a trade partner

Harden + Ibaka + any bad contract they want to give us

for

Bosh + our first rounder this year

Yeah I was thinking the same, I don't think they even have a bad contract there. But does this not create a TPE as well? that would be ideal!

Harden is not good. Ibaka is like a better version of Pops Mensa Bonsu. AND OUR FIRST ROUNDER? psh

Harden is one of the youngest rookies in the NBA. He started off slow and finished strong. He will be a solid scorer in this league and would look nice paired up with DeRozan moving to the three spot.

Ibaka is one of the other young rookies in this draft and although he is looking like an Amir Johnson at best right now, he's showing excellent signs of growth at such a young age (especially for a big).

We have to reasonable to assume that any sign and trade with Bosh will not net us any star players, and we definitely would have to take some risks on young players.

Having your 2, 3, and 5 spots occupied with three promising rookies, all born in 1989, is an excellent start.

[iffle]

is getting bynum in return for bosh even a possibility?

and why would LA want Bosh? is he that much better than what they need bynum to do? Pau barely gets enough touches as it is.

[bboyskinnylegs]

is getting bynum in return for bosh even a possibility?

and why would LA want Bosh? is he that much better than what they need bynum to do? Pau barely gets enough touches as it is.

It is not impossible. Pau and Bynum don't really coexist well, because Gasol doesnt quite play like a power forward, he's more of a PF/C hybrid, but he operates well in the post. When Pau was injured at the beginning of the year, Bynum was an absolute beast, putting up Bosh-like numbers. Since Pau's return, however, his play has trailed off significantly. If LA loses this year, they are going to need firepower-- and that's Bosh. He would space them really well, and start to open the lanes a bit. Kobe would probably benefit the most, not receiving as much coverage, and that team would have a very good shot at the title. Bynum is a real C, who operates exclusively in the post. His game is about as complimentary as it gets with Bargs as our PF.

[Carlos Rogers]

Not sure if the Lakers are willing to deal them but their 2 guys I would want in a Bosh trade.
These 2 guys are the perfect compliment to Bargnani. Odom makes up for his lack
of Rebounding, plays defense, brings toughness, leadership, swagger, and veteran experience. Bynum forces him to play his natural PF spot adds size, plays defenses, brings toughness, and plays under the rim. To get Odom they'd be willing to have to take back Jose or Turk and we'd probably have to sweeten the deal like throw in Reggie Evans expiring contract and they would
need a big. We'd might have to take a bad contract like Luke Walton or throw in like Vujacic to make it work. Then with our draft pick we could get a back up center like Whiteside or a 3 point shooter with decent handles Xavier Henry or Paul George. Resign Amir Johnson, possibly resign Rasho and have Banks expiring and Jose/Turk (whoever remains) as a trade chip to fill
in other areas of need.

C - Bynum - 15.0 ppg 8.3 rpg 1.0 apg 0.54 spg 1.45 bpg 57.0% fgp 0.00% 3P% 73.9 FT%
PF - Bargnani - 17.2 ppg 6.2 rpg 1.2 apg 0.31 spg 1.39 bpg 47.0% fgp 37.2% 3P% 77.3 FT%
SF - Odom - 10.8 ppg 9.8 rpg 3.3 apg 0.93 spg 0.72 bpg 46.3% fgp 31.9% 3P% 69.3 FT%


I would start Xavier Henry/Paul Geoge/or Veteran SG we acquire at the 2 for 3 point shooting

Start Jack at PG

Have DeRozan and Weems back up the Wings

Have Amir as the 3rd big off the bench

And we still have Calderon or Turk to trade to fill out the roster

This trade balances out the roster and brings in much needed defense/toughness and winning
culture.....

All of a sudden we got some nice young talent in our nucleus to grow and develop

Getting Odom won't be easy though.... Need the Lakers to choke in playoffs so they feel the
need to do something drastic in the offseason.

Lakers don't care about the Luxury Tax to much and might be willing to absorb the
contract of a Turk or Calderon. With Fisher getting old and Jordan Farmar not panning out they might be intrigued of pairing Calderon with Gasol..... I know Kupchak and Colangelo are pretty tight.

[dagger]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but you'd never get both of them for Bosh. Maybe one and that's all.

You're wishing on a star

[Carlos Rogers]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but you'd never get both of them for Bosh. Maybe one and that's all.

You're wishing on a star

Burst my bubble???

Did you not read my post???

I never said we would that doesn't make any sense....Im advocating expanding the deal
to make salaries work and throwing something else in maybe expirings in Evans or Banks
maybe taking back a Luke Walton or something along those lines. Their a team though that
might be interested in a Turk or Jose and could absorb their contracts.

[Saciid11]

If Bosh traded in sign and trade than I want Bargnani and Hedo moved, so we can restart this team and build it the right way... I want Jose moved too, but I don't think any team would want Jose with his contract, so its better to keep Jose in the same role he played when TJ Ford was our starting PG.

#1 Bosh to LA

Chris Bosh
Hedo

For

Bynum
Lamar Odom


#2 Bargnani to Phlly for Iggy

Bargnani
Bank to make salaries match

For

Iggy
Jody Meeks to make salaries match


with the #12 pick take best player available... X. Henry, E. Davies, Ekbe Uduh, etc

Lineup

C- Bynum/ Reggie Evens/POB
PF- Odom/Amir/Joey Dorsey
SF- IGGY/Derozen/Bellineli
SG- Sonny Weems/X.Henry/Meeks
PG- Jarret Jack/Jose/ Dleague free Agent

[justinnum1]

Why do you guys think your going to get such good deals? Your chance for a good deal was the trade deadline. If Bosh goes to Miami, you will recieve Miami's garbage. You might be lucky and score Beasley but i doubt it. S&T does not mean both teams win.

[Wiz Khalifa]

Bosh for both of New Jersey's picks. Let's say they win the lottery. We draft Wall and Aldrich/Whiteside

Can I have whatever your smoking? Seriously?

Bosh is the best PF in the NBA.

Harris, Lopez, and Bosh would be great for them!