Reke's Position

Post #1 » by **ICMTM** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:29 pm

I'm reading all this ESPN BS and the knock on Tyreke Evans is what position is he going to play? Then I read people compare him to LeBron James. Then I come to the reality that the King himself plays "SF." but runs his offense! Nobody would dare call LeBron a PG, but he did have the most assists on his team.

Why am I ranting? ONe because the board is dead, Two I've had a couple beers, but three the NBA has turned into a game where you let your best person create and play off him. Kobe, LeBron, D-Wade...All Creators. Nash, DWill, Cp3...Creators. Paul Pierce, Rondo...creators. Westbrook, Durant...creators.

I hear now declare Tyreke Evans a C, which stands for creator! We need minions that can deliver. If we get that and a co C we're in business for a long time.

Bac2Basics · Post #2 » by **Bac2Basics** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:33 pm

Minions is a word that should be used more often

Post #3 » by **pillwenney** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:43 pm

How many is a couple? :lol:

Anyway, positions really only matter defensively. Offensively, there are a million ways to skin a cat.

It's probably good for Tyreke to play with somebody like Beno--somebody who doesn't necessarily have all of the PG skills, but knows the role and position and can do that effectively. They really are perfect compliments to each other.

longfellow44 · Post #4 » by **longfellow44** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:17 am

Reke is bestmaying beside another pg who can help run the offense. I don't care what position you want to call it the guy is a play maker. In fact one of the best signings we can make this summer is to go out and get Randy foye. The guy will fit off the bench well and can be a 2 or the pg depending on who is out there with him reke makesother combo guards more effective and they make him more effective by reducing the pressure each guy feels to be a facilitator.

Post #5 » by **KF10** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:25 am

Dude, Foye sucks.

He is an inefficient combo guard that plays one side of the ball. He has a mediocre TS%, never had a PER higher than 14, low FG%, going to be 27 years old before the next season and other things that I can't think top of my head.

I never liked him or his game. He used to draw comparisons to Wade in the draft but now, those comparisons are laughable.

I wouldn't even give him the MLE.

Post #6 » by **Wolfay** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:22 am

Evans a C... I like that. I think I'll use it as my sig to get the word out.

longfellow44 · Post #7 » by **longfellow44** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:13 am

About the foye thing I wasn't going to say we offer the
mle. I'd pay about 4 mil per of 4 years. He'd be beno's backup and provide a lot of what beno provides.

Post #8 » by **KingInExile** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:26 am

My first thought reading this is where the hell is my beer!

Reke is a driver looking for passengers to make the trip fun. No need for the whinny, bitchy diva passengers wondering "are we there yet" and "man why didn't you bring better tunes". He needs someone riding shotgun who will take care of a little navigating while quietly sitting back and enjoying the ride.

That's my analogy...NOW WHERE'S MY BEER!

king125 · Post #9 » by **king125** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:53 am

^^^^^ nice!

Beavis needed Butthead

Ren needed Stimpy

Lloyed needed Harry

Tyreke needs a partner.

longfellow44 · Post #10 » by **longfellow44** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:02 am

You guys are dead on about this. He just needs his co-pilot. He needs a wing man, someone to take the chubby girl home so he can score with the hot one. I think beno knows what his job is, he's gotta take one for the team and take the girl with the lazy eye home and dent that headboard.

I'm at work but I still want one of those beers

mobiuseinz · Post #11 » by **mobiuseinz** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:41 pm

Evans with an alley-oop to Favors is starting to sound real good now.

We need a franchise big man, and Favors will be a beast

(don't ridicule me, cos last year, around this time I was saying we should go for Tyreke, and saying that he was clutch... while 50% of the board was making fun of me)

Post #12 » by **ICMTM** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:18 pm

I'm liking the idea of Favors over Cousins for sure! The Kings need guys who are going to have a huge impact on the game without the ball. Favors can be that guy. If he develops a good (not great) post up game he can be dominant. My problem is at 6'9" his game offensively is too limited. I'm not sure at his size he can be a defensive animal against guys bigger than him.

Even still I like him more than I do Cousins. I see Favors Josh Smithesque but I see Cousins somewhere between Eddie Curry and Charles Barkley.

mobiuseinz · Post #13 » by **mobiuseinz** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:31 pm

ICMTM wrote:I'm liking the idea of Favors over Cousins for sure! The Kings need guys who are going to have a huge impact on the game without the ball. Favors can be that guy. If he develops a good (not great) post up game he can be dominant. My problem is at 6'9" his game offensively is too limited. I'm not sure at his size he can be a defensive animal against guys bigger than him.

Even still I like him more than I do Cousins. I see Favors Josh Smithesque but I see Cousins somewhere between Eddie Curry and Charles Barkley.

Favors is like 19 yrs old... just like Dwight Howard before him, he stands around 6'9" - 6'10", and just like Howard, he is a monster physical specimen... trust me on this... Favors almost averaged a double-double while receiving basically no touches in the post. Sure he's no Greg Monroe in terms of passing, but we already have great passers in Thompson and Hawes. Favors is the type of force you need down low, when Tyreke drives to the hoop and he can dish it to a player with big hands, and who is strong enough to destroy that rim with crazy athleticism... surely Cousins fits that mold as well, and at 6'11 270, Cousins can easily guard guys like Bynum and Howard... but I think we can win more with Favors

Post #14 » by **ICMTM** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:01 pm

They list D12 as 6'11" and I've seen Favors listed at 6'9". Even still I'm all for Favors instead of Cousins. I think that would make the Kings a better fit all around. Casspi is going to have to play better though.

mobiuseinz · Post #15 » by **mobiuseinz** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:30 pm

ICMTM wrote:They list D12 as 6'11" and I've seen Favors listed at 6'9". Even still I'm all for Favors instead of Cousins. I think that would make the Kings a better fit all around. Casspi is going to have to play better though.

Howard was listed at 6'9.5" without shoes in the combine or something like that... its not a big deal anyways... cos Howard is strong and has amazing leaping ability.

Favors is currently listed at dxpress as 6'10" and 248lbs which is great... plus check this out:

Post #16 » by **ICMTM** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:49 pm

I've seen it. We'll see, but I like how Favors has slid a little bit. I'm just not big on Cousins. I want to be, but I just see a better Big Baby. That's not a bad thing. I just don't see huge upside.

Anyhow back to Reke...I think Favors is a good fit with Reke. More so than Cousins.

Post #17 » by **pillwenney** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:15 pm

ICMTM wrote:I've seen it. We'll see, but I like how Favors has slid a little bit. I'm just not big on Cousins. I want to be, but I just see a better Big Baby. That's not a bad thing. I just don't see huge upside.

Anyhow back to Reke...I think Favors is a good fit with Reke. More so than Cousins.

The 6' 11", huge wingspan Cousins is a better version of the human rollie pollie known as Big Baby?

mobiuseinz · Post #18 » by **mobiuseinz** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:18 pm

mitchweber wrote:
ICMTM wrote:I've seen it. We'll see, but I like how Favors has slid a little bit. I'm just not big on Cousins. I want to be, but I just see a better Big Baby. That's not a bad thing. I just don't see huge upside.

Anyhow back to Reke...I think Favors is a good fit with Reke. More so than Cousins.

The 6' 11", huge wingspan Cousins is a better version of the human rollie pollie known as Big Baby?

Cousins does have a huge wingspan... somewhere like 7'8" or so... seriously either one wont be bad... although I think Favors will be a better pro.

Post #19 » by **Wolfay** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:59 pm

I don't like that Favors is only 6'9". That worries me. The only thing Favors has on Cousins in my opinion is his mentality. Cousins might not have the athleticism, but he doesn't need much with his size. That said, I don't know which I would choose. Both have an issue or two that worry me. I sort of like Cousins just because he's huge. If you can eliminate the mental issues, he'll be dominant.

troydestroy · Post #20 » by **troydestroy** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:40 am

ICMTM wrote: the NBA has turned into a game where you let your best person create and play off him. Kobe, LeBron, D-Wade...All Creators. Nash, DWill, Cp3...Creators. Paul Pierce, Rondo...creators. Westbrook, Durant...creators.

I hear now declare Tyreke Evans a C, which stands for creator! We need minions that can deliver. If we get that and a co C we're in business for a long time.

I was thinking nearly the same thing a few days ago. The good teams have their star, or go-to player. Regardless of what position they are assigned, it is obvious (see Wade, B. Roy, Kobe, LeBron, etc) that they run the offense and typically make playmaking decisions. Possibly this is why Tyreke played the point this year- to help him understand Westphal's offense and find his spot as either the 1 or 2. Which one? I agree that It mostly won't matter, so long as his back court mate makes the open shots.