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How would you have drafted?
Just because I think this could be an interesting thread to bring up again, now that we know where everybody was picked, how would you have picked at each spot?
Personally, I would have gone:
1. Jerry Hughes
2. Charles Brown
3. Dominique Franks
4. Cam Thomas
5a. Matt Tennant
5b. Deji Karim
6. Myron Rolle
7. Jevan Snead
Personally, I would have gone:
1. Jerry Hughes
2. Charles Brown
3. Dominique Franks
4. Cam Thomas
5a. Matt Tennant
5b. Deji Karim
6. Myron Rolle
7. Jevan Snead
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If TT had gotten Hughes and Brown with the top 2 picks and the best CB on the board with the 3rd...along with what he did after 5 this would have been an A+ draft.
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I am with you on the Hughes pick , he was my favorite option for Round 1.
Here's my take:
1) Jerry Hughes
2) Charles Brown
3) Brandon Ghee
4) Jason Fox
5) Jonathan Dwyer
5) Sam Young
6) Myron Rolle
7) Selvish Capers
Here's my take:
1) Jerry Hughes
2) Charles Brown
3) Brandon Ghee
4) Jason Fox
5) Jonathan Dwyer
5) Sam Young
6) Myron Rolle
7) Selvish Capers
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1 - Dez Bryant
2 - Charles Brown
3 - Brandon Ghee (assuming Burnett is gone)
4 - Eric Norwood
5a - Jonathon Dwyer
5b - Greg Hardy
6 - Kyle Calloway
7 - Jeff Owens
2 - Charles Brown
3 - Brandon Ghee (assuming Burnett is gone)
4 - Eric Norwood
5a - Jonathon Dwyer
5b - Greg Hardy
6 - Kyle Calloway
7 - Jeff Owens
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Hard to argue with either of your scenarios. For me, the fact that Indy and Polian took Hughes tells me everything I need to know about him. That's not to say Polian never misses, but he's a great drafter and at least I wasn't nuts for thinking he's a 1st round talent.
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Wade-A-Holic wrote:Hard to argue with either of your scenarios. For me, the fact that Indy and Polian took Hughes tells me everything I need to know about him. That's not to say Polian never misses, but he's a great drafter and at least I wasn't nuts for thinking he's a 1st round talent.
They don't run a 3-4. I'm not saying that Hughes couldn't, but it may be an indicator of what 3-4 teams felt of him being able to play standing up.
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No trade ups
1. Kyle Wilson
2. Golden Tate
3. Bruce Campbell
4. O'Brien Schofield
5. Jonathan Dwyer
5. Dan LeFevour
6. Myron Rolle
7. Selvish Capers
I am disgusted with the way this draft turned out in actuality. I hope I'm wrong, but this is reminiscent of the Harrell draft.
1. Kyle Wilson
2. Golden Tate
3. Bruce Campbell
4. O'Brien Schofield
5. Jonathan Dwyer
5. Dan LeFevour
6. Myron Rolle
7. Selvish Capers
I am disgusted with the way this draft turned out in actuality. I hope I'm wrong, but this is reminiscent of the Harrell draft.
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DrugBust wrote:Wade-A-Holic wrote:Hard to argue with either of your scenarios. For me, the fact that Indy and Polian took Hughes tells me everything I need to know about him. That's not to say Polian never misses, but he's a great drafter and at least I wasn't nuts for thinking he's a 1st round talent.
They don't run a 3-4. I'm not saying that Hughes couldn't, but it may be an indicator of what 3-4 teams felt of him being able to play standing up.
True. I'm just saying they obviously feel like he can get to the QB, which is why I thought he was worthy of a 1st round pick.
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It would have been hard to me to pass on Bulaga in the 1st, not knowing at the time that both Brown and Veldheer would be there in the second. With hindsight, sure, but that's kind of dishonest. And I can see now, why it was so hard for TT to find a decent rush OLB when we picked.
My draft probably would have looked like....
1. Brian Bulaga
2. Golden Tate
3. Brandon Ghee
4. Eric Norwood
5. Cam Thomas (trade up 5th + 7th)
5. Myron Rolle
6. Donovan Warren
My draft probably would have looked like....
1. Brian Bulaga
2. Golden Tate
3. Brandon Ghee
4. Eric Norwood
5. Cam Thomas (trade up 5th + 7th)
5. Myron Rolle
6. Donovan Warren
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BTW, this exercise made me appreciate the draft that TT did have. I was not a fan at all, but now that it's sunk in a bit, I'll adopt that wait and see approach.
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midranger wrote:BTW, this exercise made me appreciate the draft that TT did have. I was not a fan at all, but now that it's sunk in a bit, I'll adopt that wait and see approach.
This is where I'm at. I think we added a lot of backups initially, but ones that could see prominent roles as early as 2011.
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The only pick I really had any issue with was the second rounder. He seems like he has the physical ability to be a good DE though, so for him it's kind of wait and see.
I liked Bulaga with the 1st and trading up to get the safety in the third. I have always had the opinion that you should draft the BPA and never for need in the later rounds... You just have to hope one or two of those guys turn into decent players. If you get a starter or major contributor out of rounds 5-7, you have done a really good job.
EDIT: With the second I probably would have taken Brown or Ducasse to further solidify the O-Line.
I liked Bulaga with the 1st and trading up to get the safety in the third. I have always had the opinion that you should draft the BPA and never for need in the later rounds... You just have to hope one or two of those guys turn into decent players. If you get a starter or major contributor out of rounds 5-7, you have done a really good job.
EDIT: With the second I probably would have taken Brown or Ducasse to further solidify the O-Line.
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midranger wrote:It would have been hard to me to pass on Bulaga in the 1st, not knowing at the time that both Brown and Veldheer would be there in the second. With hindsight, sure, but that's kind of dishonest. And I can see now, why it was so hard for TT to find a decent rush OLB when we picked
I agree, although passing on Bulaga wasn't personally all that difficult for me since I'm not that high on him, but I definitely see your point.
I was listening to Ted on the Packers draft wrap-up show on channel 4 last night and he said that in the first, there were some nervous moments and that it wasn't going the way he hoped it would until he ultimately lucked out and had Bulaga fall to him there. I wonder, had Bulaga not been there, if he was trading out of that spot.
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I'm not incredibly high on Bulaga, but I see him as a guy who will solidy our entire line next year if called upon due to injury or poor play. Additionally, I do think he has the potential to be a very good RT or adequate LT down the road.
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midranger wrote:I'm not incredibly high on Bulaga, but I see him as a guy who will solidy our entire line next year if called upon due to injury or poor play. Additionally, I do think he has the potential to be a very good RT or adequate LT down the road.
That I agree with. At the very least, he's WAY better than Colledge was over there and we won't see that debacle again, and I do like him as a run blocker. I read some draftnik compare him to Jordan Gross recently and I really hope he's right and I'm wrong about Bulaga.
I'm interested to see what they do with Newhouse. All throughout the draft process, I've read reports that ripped on him for his body, but his measurables are near the top in most categories and he was dominant at TCU. Thompson even said that they saw tape of Newhouse dominating and controlling guys that got drafted much higher than he did with relative ease. So his body isn't a prototype? Big deal. I think with a year or two in an NFL weight program that could all change and we could have a steal on our hands.
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I am actually high on Bulaga and think he will be a slightly better run blocking version of Chad Clifton.....I personally believe that Lang and Bulaga will be seemless replacing Tauscher and Clifton. Joe Panos absolutely luvs Bulaga and believes the Packers got a steel.
I will also say I wanted Jontahon Dwyer...I was shocked GB passed him up, was he still available when they drafted the guy from Buffalo? The guy from Buffalo seems to be tall and thin at 215....not a huge fan of tall runners, usually run higher and more prone to fumble and take big hits.....plus not sure of his speed.
I will also say I wanted Jontahon Dwyer...I was shocked GB passed him up, was he still available when they drafted the guy from Buffalo? The guy from Buffalo seems to be tall and thin at 215....not a huge fan of tall runners, usually run higher and more prone to fumble and take big hits.....plus not sure of his speed.
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Yeah, I see our offensive line of the future being:
LT: Bulaga
LG: Spitz (Possibly at C)
C: ? (Wells will play C this year, IMO)
RG: Sitton
RT: Lang
Hopefully the guy we drafted in the later rounds this year can become a starting quality G. Then we could just move Spitz to C and be set for a long time.
LT: Bulaga
LG: Spitz (Possibly at C)
C: ? (Wells will play C this year, IMO)
RG: Sitton
RT: Lang
Hopefully the guy we drafted in the later rounds this year can become a starting quality G. Then we could just move Spitz to C and be set for a long time.
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midranger wrote:It would have been hard to me to pass on Bulaga in the 1st, not knowing at the time that both Brown and Veldheer would be there in the second. With hindsight, sure, but that's kind of dishonest. And I can see now, why it was so hard for TT to find a decent rush OLB when we picked.
Certainly a good point when considering a topic like this. On the other hand, I for one wanted Jerry Hughes in the first anyways, so those guys would have been nice surprises in the second.
I'm not gonna change things for the sake of changing them. Some things TT did in this draft I really liked and/or have intrigued me, so I left those alone.
1) Jerry Hughes OLB
2) Charles Brown OT
3) Morgan Burnett S
5) Andrew Quarless TE
5) Marshall Newhouse OG
6) Jamar Chaney ILB
7) LeGarrette Blount RB
:Shrug: I'm certainly willing to see how what we actually did works out, though, which of course is hopefully for the best.
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1. Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
2. Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
3. Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
5. Matt Tennant, C, Boston College
5. Marshall Newhouse, LT, TCU
6. James Starks, RB, Buffalo
7. C.J. Wilson, DE, ECU
Ted had a very Ron Wolf-esque draft. One solid starter early, and probably a bust, but then did work from round three and beyond.
Bulaga will be a solid starter on the offensive line for years, but I think there's a good chance it'll be at guard and it's not advisable to take someone at that position in the first round. We could have filled our most pressing need, and at an impact position, with Hughes. He had tools and productivity.
Neal strikes me as a Jeremy Thompson type pick. There's a boom possibility with his tools and projecting him to a position he didn't perform at in college, but it's a greater chance he busts because if he was a player he probably would have been more productive, period. If Reed doesn't have an affinity for him as a fellow Purdue alum that's pretty telling. The 2nd round didn't fall ideally, but I still don't think that was good value for a 2nd rounder either. Tate wouldn't have exactly filled a pressing need but could be the heir apparent to Driver and helped out on returns. I'm not as high on Nelson as others.
There's not much I would change about the last day+.
If I knew a trade up possibility for Burnett was available, it would have been accepted. It's like they say, the team who acquires the best player from a trade, got the sweetest deal. And I think Burnett will likely be the best player of all the picks involved. In addition to the best player the Pack acquired this past weekend. He brings so much versatility to the defense. You don't need to take him out in sure running or passing situations and you could probably just drop him down in coverage on the 4th wide receiver in the nickel package, allowing all our defenders to read the offense from the beginning of the play instead of scrambling to react to their formation.
I've fallen in love with Newhouse, Wilson, and Starks for their value at the respective picks and the fact they fill near future or even immediate needs.
Quarless has good potential, and could emerge, but the attitude is very concerning, and we already have his type of player. Tennant potentially replaces Bulaga as a pick if Spitz shifts over.
2. Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
3. Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
5. Matt Tennant, C, Boston College
5. Marshall Newhouse, LT, TCU
6. James Starks, RB, Buffalo
7. C.J. Wilson, DE, ECU
Ted had a very Ron Wolf-esque draft. One solid starter early, and probably a bust, but then did work from round three and beyond.
Bulaga will be a solid starter on the offensive line for years, but I think there's a good chance it'll be at guard and it's not advisable to take someone at that position in the first round. We could have filled our most pressing need, and at an impact position, with Hughes. He had tools and productivity.
Neal strikes me as a Jeremy Thompson type pick. There's a boom possibility with his tools and projecting him to a position he didn't perform at in college, but it's a greater chance he busts because if he was a player he probably would have been more productive, period. If Reed doesn't have an affinity for him as a fellow Purdue alum that's pretty telling. The 2nd round didn't fall ideally, but I still don't think that was good value for a 2nd rounder either. Tate wouldn't have exactly filled a pressing need but could be the heir apparent to Driver and helped out on returns. I'm not as high on Nelson as others.
There's not much I would change about the last day+.
If I knew a trade up possibility for Burnett was available, it would have been accepted. It's like they say, the team who acquires the best player from a trade, got the sweetest deal. And I think Burnett will likely be the best player of all the picks involved. In addition to the best player the Pack acquired this past weekend. He brings so much versatility to the defense. You don't need to take him out in sure running or passing situations and you could probably just drop him down in coverage on the 4th wide receiver in the nickel package, allowing all our defenders to read the offense from the beginning of the play instead of scrambling to react to their formation.
I've fallen in love with Newhouse, Wilson, and Starks for their value at the respective picks and the fact they fill near future or even immediate needs.
Quarless has good potential, and could emerge, but the attitude is very concerning, and we already have his type of player. Tennant potentially replaces Bulaga as a pick if Spitz shifts over.
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a lot of mock drafts projected burnett as a late second round pick. i think many people would have liked the draft more if the packers picked burnett in the second round and then picked neal in the third round without giving up our pick 4th round to do so. I'd have to ask , was there anybody in the 4th round who would have been a difference maker for the packers?
my picks:
1 - Bulaga
2. burnette
3. neal
4-7. best available.
my picks:
1 - Bulaga
2. burnette
3. neal
4-7. best available.