ESPN BS Report rumour: Bosh for Bynum already done?

[raps4life~]

As a first option I could see him put up like 20/12

[RocLaFamilia]

Bosh is a better scorer but Bynum is a better basketball player.

It could be that Bynum has now built up his body from HS to be at an NBA level. (Wishful thinking)

ohh boy, I hear the Bosh nut huggers sharpening their pitch forks. beware!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GvB9ySUJ3A

Ahh, Dame Dash before liposuction

[RocLaFamilia]

Bosh is a better scorer but Bynum is a better basketball player.

It could be that Bynum has now built up his body from HS to be at an NBA level. (Wishful thinking)

Wait, what?

Maybe I'm missing something but what measure are you using to say Bynum is currently a better basketball player than Bosh? I doubt many people would agree with that statement that have seen both players in action.

He's definitely a better center than Bosh, but Bosh is a better PF than Kobe so....

bynum would be the better fit, is what I presume he was going after...

[NBA Sheady]

Bosh is a better scorer but Bynum is a better basketball player.

It could be that Bynum has now built up his body from HS to be at an NBA level. (Wishful thinking)

Wait, what?

Maybe I'm missing something but what measure are you using to say Bynum is currently a better basketball player than Bosh? I doubt many people would agree with that statement that have seen both players in action.

Defense.

Put Bosh in LA's starting lineup and he won't get nearly the rebounds he gets now. That doesn't even account for him playing far less minutes.

You put Bynum on our team and he makes the all defensive team and is a top 5 rebounder.

[disoblige]

Defense.

Put Bosh in LA's starting lineup and he won't get nearly the rebounds he gets now. That doesn't even account for him playing far less minutes.

You put Bynum on our team and he makes the all defensive team and is a top 5 rebounder.

For someone so tall and lengthy, he doesn't average that much blocks.

[NBA Sheady]

Defense.

Put Bosh in LA's starting lineup and he won't get nearly the rebounds he gets now. That doesn't even account for him playing far less minutes.

You put Bynum on our team and he makes the all defensive team and is a top 5 rebounder.

For someone so tall and lengthy, he doesn't average that much block.

He will when our perimeter D is funneling opposing guards towards him! Seriously though, he's not a great shot blocker.

My overall point is bosh can score and rebound and that's it. He won't get nearly as many boards in LA. So if we take the rebounding out of the equation and consider Bynum getting consistent touches, I see Bynum easily averaging 20/game (which he's done in LA) and still being the teams best defender.

[Double Helix]

I haven't read the thread but it's hard to imagine us getting any player as good and as young as Bynum in a sign and trade for Chris Bosh but if it happens I'll be ecstatic and I don't see how many Raptors fans wouldn't be. This would be a huge step forward (In terms of building a functional front court with an offensive-minded big like Bargs) for a franchise that would otherwise have to take a step back.

- He'd be an excellent pairing with Bargnani.
- He's young.
- He plays more like a traditional big with a back to the basket game that lends itself nicely to half court, playoff-style basketball.
- Supersub recently posted some synergy sports statistics and Andrew Bynum was one of the better fundamentally sound defensive centers in the entire NBA.

I really have a hard time imagining LA wanting a Bosh/Gasol front court and rarely do teams acquire this much on a sign and trade but IF we were able to get Bynum for Bosh, well, that's about as good a realistic deal as any of us could have ever hoped to get. I for one would be ecstatic.

[Reignman]

Bosh is a better scorer but Bynum is a better basketball player.

It could be that Bynum has now built up his body from HS to be at an NBA level. (Wishful thinking)

Wait, what?

Maybe I'm missing something but what measure are you using to say Bynum is currently a better basketball player than Bosh? I doubt many people would agree with that statement that have seen both players in action.

Defense.

Put Bosh in LA's starting lineup and he won't get nearly the rebounds he gets now. That doesn't even account for him playing far less minutes.

You put Bynum on our team and he makes the all defensive team and is a top 5 rebounder.

Bosh on the Lakers would be a defensive force, mark my words. He has the IQ / ability and they have the system and offensive support for it to fit like a glove. The "Bosh doesn't play D" crowd would eat a lot of crow if he went to that team.

Bynum is not the better "basketball" player under any measure. If you had said Bynum has the potential to be the better basketball player down the road I may have agreed but you said Bynum is the better basketball player...wrong.

[RocLaFamilia]

I haven't read the thread but it's hard to imagine us getting any player as good and as young as Bynum in a sign and trade for Chris Bosh but if it happens I'll be ecstatic and I don't see how many Raptors fans wouldn't be. This would be a huge step forward for a franchise that would otherwise have to take a step back.

- He'd be an excellent pairing with Bargnani.
- He's young.
- He plays more like a traditional big with a back to the basket game that lends itself nicely to half court, playoff-style basketball.
- Supersub recently posted some synergy sports statistics and Andrew Bynum was one of the better fundamentally sound defensive centers in the entire NBA.

I really have a hard time imagining LA wanting a Bosh/Gasol front court and rarely do teams acquire this much on a sign and trade but IF we were able to get Bynum for Bosh, well, that's about as good a realistic deal as any of us could have ever hoped to get. I for one would be ecstatic.

I think Bosh would be the guy Bryant hands the torch over to?

[raps4life~]

Defense.

Put Bosh in LA's starting lineup and he won't get nearly the rebounds he gets now. That doesn't even account for him playing far less minutes.

You put Bynum on our team and he makes the all defensive team and is a top 5 rebounder.

For someone so tall and lengthy, he doesn't average that much blocks.

2.2 blocks per 36 minutes over his career is pretty damn good. not many players currently playing get more than that.

[Canucklehead]

Bynum is the better fit on this team even though Bosh would be argued to be the better player.

Bynum on this raps team without Bosh around would see a huge spike in his #'s GUARANTEED and Bosh in LA will without a doubt put up at least slightly lower #'s then he does here but will likely also have a higher true shooting %.

[raps4life~]

Replace Bosh with Bynum this season and we're EASILY in the playoffs.

[Reignman]

lol, is there a crystal ball sale I don't know about?

[Courtside]

I really have a hard time imagining LA wanting a Bosh/Gasol front court and rarely do teams acquire this much on a sign and trade but IF we were able to get Bynum for Bosh, well, that's about as good a realistic deal as any of us could have ever hoped to get. I for one would be ecstatic.

If you think about it, the biggest reason a Bosh/Bargs pairing has not worked is because we haven't had the SG to properly balance things out and make the best of 2 dynamic forwards. Kobe is pretty much the best in the game today, so LA could essentially do what Toronto wanted to, not just in terms of concept, but also in terms of player value. Kobe+Gasol+Bosh is elite in every sense.

Bosh on the Lakers would be a defensive force, mark my words. He has the IQ / ability and they have the system and offensive support for it to fit like a glove. The "Bosh doesn't play D" crowd would eat a lot of crow if he went to that team.

...and the Bosh jocksniffer shows up on cue. Your soccer playing sidekick should be along any minute now.

You can't predict that any more than anyone else can predict Bynum would make the all-defensive team - but one is a whole lot closer to being a reality based on past play defensive play. I'll let you guess which one.

[Double Helix]

Let's not forget SS's synergy stats: Bynum's points against per possession was 0.82! That's like Kendrick Perkins only this guy can score in the half court too!

Is there anybody REALLY out there in Raptorland who thinks we deserve more than this for Bosh on a sign and trade? I'm having a hard time imagining it but only because I find it hard to believe we could get a talented, two-way center prospect this good given the situation we're in.

This would be a HUGE deal for the Toronto Raptors if it ever happened. I almost wish this thread didn't exist; I feel like I'm now bound to be disappointed with the real return in a Bosh sign-and-trade. Bynum is an up and coming stud in this league who fills a need and who could work with Bargs. It just feels too good to be true.

[pspot]

Bosh on the Lakers would be a defensive force, mark my words. He has the IQ / ability and they have the system and offensive support for it to fit like a glove. The "Bosh doesn't play D" crowd would eat a lot of crow if he went to that team.

Bynum is not the better "basketball" player under any measure. If you had said Bynum has the potential to be the better basketball player down the road I may have agreed but you said Bynum is the better basketball player...wrong.

I counter with Bosh on the Lakers, his stats will drop and his D isn't good enough to justify a max contract and he will most likely be critized for it.

[neurotik]

^
given his history of injuries,and at such a young age too, I would rather trade with Houston and do a proper rebuild

[raps4life~]

lol, is there a crystal ball sale I don't know about?

yes

http://cgi.ebay.com/CLEAR-CRYSTAL-BALL- ... 414f0fb482

[garbagnani]

Put Bosh in LA's starting lineup and he won't get nearly the rebounds he gets now. That doesn't even account for him playing far less minutes.

You put Bynum on our team and he makes the all defensive team and is a top 5 rebounder.

Bosh on the Lakers would be a defensive force, mark my words. He has the IQ / ability and they have the system and offensive support for it to fit like a glove. The "Bosh doesn't play D" crowd would eat a lot of crow if he went to that team.

Bynum is not the better "basketball" player under any measure. If you had said Bynum has the potential to be the better basketball player down the road I may have agreed but you said Bynum is the better basketball player...wrong.[/quote]

I have trashed Boshs defense several times on this board. Why would I have to eat crow if Bosh went to the lakers to be option #2b (resulting in him focusing more on playing good D)?. Seriously, our team is one of the better offensive teams in the league and one of worst defensive teams. yet bosh still makes no effort on defense (he wants his #'s).

I dont care if Bosh is capable of playing good D as a result of him becoming a secondary offensive option. On our team bosh will never be option 2b.

I can guarentee you one thing though, Bosh would never be a "defensive force." He might play better defense than he has here (wouldnt be hard to improve on that) but he will never be a defensive force in this league.

[NBA Sheady]

The Bosh that LA will get will be the Team USA Bosh. He'll be chasing point guards around off screens and appearing to play D but not doing much to help his team.