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We could just sign Flip (he allegedly would like to come back) to address that. (but it would kill DJ once again) We would surely need to make additional moves as it wouldn't make us significantly better from day one.

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Someone said it best, championship teams are won with dominating front courts. As much as I would LOVE to have Paul on this team, I would not pass up Dwight #1 and Bosh #2. Then CP3. I think Derron's #'s would seriously dip unless he brought Jerry Sloan with him.
But the big men, doesn't matter who the coach is - they are just purely dominant regardless of offensive system. Plug D12 or Bosh onto any team and put guys like Wallace/Jax around them and forget about it. We have nobody who commands a double team - that would solve that issue and make the rest of our team better.
I hate twisting this knife though because we came so close to having some of these guys.
But the big men, doesn't matter who the coach is - they are just purely dominant regardless of offensive system. Plug D12 or Bosh onto any team and put guys like Wallace/Jax around them and forget about it. We have nobody who commands a double team - that would solve that issue and make the rest of our team better.
I hate twisting this knife though because we came so close to having some of these guys.
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Pass on Dwight and Amare completely. I believe Amare has already said that he didn't want to play in Charlotte and I don't care for Dwight's basketball IQ, regardless of his physical talents.
Williams and Paul would be great, but Paul is preferable for that home town factor. That helps ticket sales and gives the team great PR opportunities. And, out of the six, I think he's the most exciting player, and ticket purchasing fans love excitement.
Bosh is an excellent player but Nowitzki has an incredible shot that would be great for this team. Not to mention the Finals experience. He can also play three positions versus two for Bosh, which makes him more "Larry Brown valuable". How many consistent and legitimate three point threats do we have in the starting lineup? Exactly.
Paul, Williams, Nowitzki, Bosh, Amare, and Dwight in that order.
Williams and Paul would be great, but Paul is preferable for that home town factor. That helps ticket sales and gives the team great PR opportunities. And, out of the six, I think he's the most exciting player, and ticket purchasing fans love excitement.
Bosh is an excellent player but Nowitzki has an incredible shot that would be great for this team. Not to mention the Finals experience. He can also play three positions versus two for Bosh, which makes him more "Larry Brown valuable". How many consistent and legitimate three point threats do we have in the starting lineup? Exactly.
Paul, Williams, Nowitzki, Bosh, Amare, and Dwight in that order.
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I cannot believe you would take Amare or Dirk at these points in their careers over Dwight. D12 came in 4th for MVP voting you know.
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Awards are irrelevant. Dirk is a 7ft tall, three position player with a mean jumper. Dwight is a less talented and more immature version of Shaq. If I was in the position to make the decision, Dirk is the better deal. He's less of a headache, he's more diverse, and Hack-A-Howard on him is suicide for the opposing team.
In my opinion, Howard is VERY overrated. His basketball IQ is terrible and he's a non-factor unless he's dunking the ball in a cape or jumping up to block a shot. He can't shoot FT's and he makes silly mistakes that land him on the bench due to foul trouble.
So yes, if I was making the decision, Dirk would be my choice. I'll let some other team deal with the headache that comes with Howard.
In my opinion, Howard is VERY overrated. His basketball IQ is terrible and he's a non-factor unless he's dunking the ball in a cape or jumping up to block a shot. He can't shoot FT's and he makes silly mistakes that land him on the bench due to foul trouble.
So yes, if I was making the decision, Dirk would be my choice. I'll let some other team deal with the headache that comes with Howard.
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Rich4114 wrote:I cannot believe you would take Amare or Dirk at these points in their careers over Dwight. D12 came in 4th for MVP voting you know.
Personally I would take CP3, D.Will, Bosh and Amare all before Howard.
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I'm not gonn lie,I dont think we should keep Crash for more than 2 years upcoming,I have huge doubts about his injury record and whether his game age well.
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^same goes for the Ass Jack
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BigSlam wrote:Rich4114 wrote:I cannot believe you would take Amare or Dirk at these points in their careers over Dwight. D12 came in 4th for MVP voting you know.
Personally I would take CP3, D.Will, Bosh and Amare all before Howard.
I can understand the first 3, but I'm surprised you would take Amare over Howard. With his injury history no less. I put Howard on another level compared to Amare.
Plus, as you can see - Howard is the type of guy you can build a team around. You can put guys like Jax/Wallace around Howard and they all become better. It also makes guys like Felton/DJ better because their 3's would be open set jumpers. With Amare, you don't have to build the entire game plan around him really.
I would be pretty damn ecstatic though with any of the guys on that list. Only reason I'd put Dirk so low is because of his age but I guess if you're just talking about 2 years and not factoring anything beyond that into this it eliminates that concern to an extent.
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Rich4114 wrote:I can understand the first 3, but I'm surprised you would take Amare over Howard. With his injury history no less. I put Howard on another level compared to Amare.
I looked at it this way:
Would I rather a pairing of:
Diaw and Howard
or
Amare and Chandler
and I think that the 2nd pairing would do much more damage.
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I figured Amare would play center if we got him, not PF.
I still would rather take Diaw + Howard over Amare + Chandler. I think Howard and Diaw would make eachother better.
I still would rather take Diaw + Howard over Amare + Chandler. I think Howard and Diaw would make eachother better.
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i would have to think long and hard about dirk, assuming this was just for the next 2 years. i think dirk is better than bosh and fits our team better than howard (who needs to be surrounded by shooters). paul and deron are great but i think they would needs a pick and roll big man to really maximize their potential. i think dirk + our team would be a better fit for the playoffs than dirk + the mavs. we are a better defensive team, better rebounding team and we have players who can get to the line, all things the mavs were missing in the spurs series.
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Yeah, Dirk's gotta have at least 2-3 high level years left in him. And defense definitely was the mavs' downfall. You've gotta feel for dirk
Yeah, Dirk's gotta have at least 2-3 high level years left in him. And defense definitely was the mavs' downfall. You've gotta feel for dirk
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I'd say more than that. Those European players are tuned to play for a long time. Arvydas Sabonis, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, etc...
I'll give Dirk another four quality years and a few more after that at a quality level of play. To me, he's one of those guys that could play until he's 40 and be productive if he wanted to.
I'll give Dirk another four quality years and a few more after that at a quality level of play. To me, he's one of those guys that could play until he's 40 and be productive if he wanted to.
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Yeah Jaruff I can definitely agree with that. Maybe not 40. but mid to late 40's he can still be a productive player. His game isn't geared towards athleticism as much as it is finesse. Guys like that last a long time (hey Nash).
It sure doesn't hurt that his offensive game will likely remain top notch, what with his UNBLOCKABLE fadeaway jumper. So nasty.
It sure doesn't hurt that his offensive game will likely remain top notch, what with his UNBLOCKABLE fadeaway jumper. So nasty.

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With the team as it's currently constructed and for only 2 years I'd have to take Dirka Dirka.
Paul is my favorite player but we don't have many shooters or complimentary P&R players, Howard would give us even better defense but again no shooters once he's doubled and we're still missing the go to scorer.
Paul is my favorite player but we don't have many shooters or complimentary P&R players, Howard would give us even better defense but again no shooters once he's doubled and we're still missing the go to scorer.
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It is nice thinking about what Jackson could do playing next to Dirk.