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Series Thread: Blue Jays @ Indians | May 3-5 

Post#1 » by LittleOzzy » Sun May 2, 2010 9:00 pm

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Monday, May 3 | 7:05 PM ET
TOR Brett Cecil, LHP (1-1, 3.55) @ CLE Mitch Talbot, RHP (3-1, 2.05)

Blue Jays: Despite losing, Cecil was simply outstanding in his last outing. He was limited to osix innings and 100 pitches, but the left-hander did all he could, surrendering only one run on five hits against a tough Boston lineup. The only run he allowed was on a Dustin Pedroia sacrifice fly in his last inning. Most impressive so far may be Cecil's ability to limit walks (two in 12 2/3 innings) and to throw strikes (62 percent of his pitches). The sophomore has limited Cleveland to one run in 13 career innings.

Indians: Talbot has been surprisingly stingy with the runs allowed this season. Plenty of balls get put in play against him, but he's done an excellent job limiting the damage on the scoreboard. Talbot has now notched three straight quality starts, allowing just two earned runs over 21 1/3 innings. In his last start against the Angels on Tuesday, he went 6 1/3 innings, allowing just a run on six hits with three walks and a strikeout. He got into a couple jams but was able to work his way out of them, thanks to his deep arsenal. To put it simply, the Indians are getting great value out of their fifth starter, who was the player to be named in the Kelly Shoppach trade with the Rays.


Tuesday, May 4 | 7:05 PM ET
TOR Ricky Romero, LHP (2-1, 2.25) @ CLE Jake Westbrook, RHP (0-2, 5.53)

Blue Jays: While Romero was not spectacular in his last outing vs. the A's on Wednesday, giving up three runs on four hits and four walks through six innings, he was still able to record his fifth straight quality start on his way to a 6-3 win. Romero was particularly happy with his outing, citing his ability to battle without his best stuff. The young left-hander will look to continue his success against the Indians, whom he has delivered a 1-0 record with a 2.25 ERA over eight career innings.

Indians: It could be a product of missing nearly two years because of Tommy John elbow surgery, but Westbrook has had issues with endurance. His last start, against the Angels on Wednesday, was a prime example. Westbrook cruised for the better part of his first five innings, but he lost effectiveness in the sixth. He let the first two men of the inning aboard, then served up a game-tying, three-run homer to Torii Hunter, thereby saddling himself with no decision. Westbrook hasn't notched a Major League win since April 8, 2008. This will be his first start against Toronto since May 2, 2007.


Wednesday, May 5 | 12:05 PM ET
TOR Brandon Morrow, RHP (2-2, 5.46) @ CLE Fausto Carmona, RHP (3-1, 4.05)

Blue Jays: This season has been a tale of two Morrows. Through his first two starts of the season, Morrow surrendered 12 runs on 12 hits over nine innings. Through his past three starts, Morrow has pitched 19 innings and allowed only five runs while striking out 25. Morrow has even said that he feels more comfortable working out of the stretch this season, where he has been able to escape several jams via the strikeout. Morrow, who was plagued by the home run in his first two starts (three), has not given up a long ball over his past three outings, a sign of increased control. The right-hander has never started a game vs. the Indians, but is 1-1 with a 4.26 ERA in a relief role.

Indians: Carmona followed up his strongest start of the season with his least effective. Whereas he dominated the A's for 7 1/3 innings in Oakland on April 24, he labored in six innings against the Twins on Friday. He allowed six runs on eight hits with two walks, a wild pitch and two strikeouts. He was less efficient than he had been in previous outings, needing 102 pitches to get through the six innings. While the outing wasn't an outright disaster, it was a step back for Carmona, who had been steadily improving with each previous start in April.
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Re: Series Thread: Blue Jays @ Indians | May 3-5 

Post#2 » by Relentless88 » Mon May 3, 2010 1:08 am

So we're playing the league's most hated team...
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Post#3 » by CapeCrusader » Mon May 3, 2010 9:26 pm

Series is winnable, but I see us taking one out of 3 ...hopefully i'm wrong.
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Re: Series Thread: Blue Jays @ Indians | May 3-5 

Post#4 » by LittleOzzy » Mon May 3, 2010 11:56 pm

No one watching?

This forum is moving at a snails pace right now and the team is still playing .500 ball
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Post#5 » by Avenger » Tue May 4, 2010 12:01 am

wow, Snider absolutely murdered that one
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Post#6 » by Schad » Tue May 4, 2010 12:05 am

Snider's slash line is still extremely ugly, but his peripherals are actually quite good right now...with his double and HR thus far tonight, his iso power is up to around 200 points, his walk rate is excellent, and his strikeout rate is dramatically lower. If his BA/bip was league-average rather than .170, he'd have an OPS above .800.
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Post#7 » by raps4life~ » Tue May 4, 2010 12:07 am

why is this not on fan590?
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Post#8 » by Avenger » Tue May 4, 2010 12:10 am

raps4life~ wrote:why is this not on fan590?

it is, i'm listening to it on MLB At Bat or do you mean its not on the fan590 website?
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Post#9 » by LittleOzzy » Tue May 4, 2010 12:11 am

I see everyone was just lurking, Haha.
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Post#10 » by []D [] [V] []D » Tue May 4, 2010 12:34 am

Oh Cecil... .Shhhhhhhhhh!
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Post#11 » by raps4life~ » Tue May 4, 2010 12:40 am

Avenger wrote:
raps4life~ wrote:why is this not on fan590?

it is, i'm listening to it on MLB At Bat or do you mean its not on the fan590 website?


really? i just tuned in and i heard bob mccowan blabbering away....
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Post#12 » by Avenger » Tue May 4, 2010 12:44 am

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Post#13 » by Schad » Tue May 4, 2010 12:44 am

Cecil's starting to try too hard to find corners...just throw good pitches and let them flail.

Edit: his mechanics are starting to get a little sloppy, as well, and everything's going high.
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Post#14 » by CapeCrusader » Tue May 4, 2010 1:49 am

Good win by the Jays...great pitching by Cecil.
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Post#15 » by Hoopstarr » Tue May 4, 2010 3:19 am

So, uh, Cecil is awesome. Dominant changeup tonight and perfect location until the two walks.

I can't even keep track of all the starters anymore. We're about 8 deep in potential #4 or better starters. Cecil, Romero, Marcum, Rzep, Morrow, Litsch, Drabek, Stewart, Alvarez, Jenkins, McGowan (please!). Schwing!
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Post#16 » by Schad » Tue May 4, 2010 3:35 am

Hoopstarr wrote:So, uh, Cecil is awesome. Dominant changeup tonight and perfect location until the two walks.

I can't even keep track of all the starters anymore. We're about 8 deep in potential #4 or better starters. Cecil, Romero, Marcum, Rzep, Morrow, Litsch, Drabek, Stewart, Alvarez, Jenkins, McGowan (please!). Schwing!


I have little confidence in Litsch and McGowan returning healthy, and Stewart is a huge question mark, but yeah...the kiddie corps is doing work.

I'm starting to wonder whether it might be worth exploring trade offers for Marcum, either mid-season or in the off-season; at 28, he might not be around by the time the rest of the team is maturing.
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Post#17 » by spykelee » Tue May 4, 2010 4:03 am

^^ though Marcum would have terrific value, I just love Marcum to much to even explore it. The guy really is a bulldog. I remember in his great year a couple years back he flirted with no hitters like every start for like 2 months straight... and his contact isn't horrible... I know he has good value I just have too much man love to get rid of him...

And like you Schad I have little faith in Mcgowan anyways... I never thought that he was incredable anyways... I think he's okay, decent, but not as good as he's cracked up to be... and litsch is nothing more than a good 5, or a mediocre 4 at best... I have little confidence in him... but those 2 aside, the jays are still absolutely stacked in terrific young pitching. We need to flip somebody (not marcum) for some bats.
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Post#18 » by Macho » Tue May 4, 2010 4:09 am

Good to see Snider having a good game, hopefully this builds up his confidence and he goes on a hot streak.
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Post#19 » by Geddy » Tue May 4, 2010 4:31 am

Shame I missed tonight's game. Looks like Cecil threw a gem by looking at line - 1 hitter over 8 innings with 10 Ks is impressive.

Buck and Bautista with more home runs is a nice bonus.

and Mark Grudzielanek is still playing???
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Re: Series Thread: Blue Jays @ Indians | May 3-5 

Post#20 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue May 4, 2010 6:20 am

Schadenfreude wrote:I'm starting to wonder whether it might be worth exploring trade offers for Marcum, either mid-season or in the off-season; at 28, he might not be around by the time the rest of the team is maturing.

I think you trade him after the season, provided it was a good one.
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