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Calipari thinks Wall-Evans backcourt would be good for Kings 

Post#1 » by KF10 » Sat May 8, 2010 8:27 am

Calipari, however, has some advice for the Kings should they find themselves with the first pick: Don't pass on Wall. But could Wall and Evans coexist on the floor? Calipari says yes.


"They're not the prototypical point guards, but they're both point guards with their ability to make plays," Calipari said. "Defensively, (the Kings are) much better; offensively, (they're) much better. You can get easy goals."


Calipari said Wall and Evans would give the Kings an extremely fast backcourt that could push the tempo and set up other players.


He added Evans and Wall are different players who would complement each other. "It'll be interesting where that ball drops for them," Calipari said of the Kings.



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Do you guys think a John Wall and Tyreke Evans backcourt would be successful?
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Post#2 » by Nicky Nix Nook » Sat May 8, 2010 8:43 am

No, not at all.

It's a weird thing to hope for, and I know we're not supposed to do it, but I hope we don't win the lottery so that there isn't the pressure to take him. I see us taking him number one just because we could potentially regret it big time if we didnt but I would rather just have the 2nd or 3rd so it was never our decision in the first place. I think Favors or Cousins would make us a better team than Wall would.
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Post#3 » by UKF » Sat May 8, 2010 9:11 am

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:No, not at all.

It's a weird thing to hope for, and I know we're not supposed to do it, but I hope we don't win the lottery so that there isn't the pressure to take him. I see us taking him number one just because we could potentially regret it big time if we didnt but I would rather just have the 2nd or 3rd so it was never our decision in the first place. I think Favors or Cousins would make us a better team than Wall would.


I've got to disagree with you on this. There would be no pressure in taking him. We would take him and then trade him to a team that is most interested in him. His value is extremely high and it would be foolish to differ to a lower pick. We could trade Wall, get the 3rd or 4th pick and get other pieces as well. I agree that Wall may not be the best fit in Sac, bit I wouldn't have a problem having him for a couple minutes.
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Post#4 » by OGSactownballer » Sat May 8, 2010 4:09 pm

Exactly!

You can NEVER give up assets or value when you are in a re-building position! Right now if we landed that #1, there would be at least 15-20 GM's on the phone making all kinds of crazy offers to pry it away because they are so eager to get Wall.

I maintain what I have all along that if we DO somehow get the #1, we wait for the best offer that includes a trade down to #2/3 to get Cousins and add a future #1 as well.
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Post#5 » by Norbit » Sat May 8, 2010 4:25 pm

Seriously I hope we win either the 1st or 2nd pick just so we can trade down for either favors/cousins and get some extra assets. For example we get the 2nd pick and draft Evan Turner. We could then make a trade with like Minnesota, something along the lines of Turner/Nocioni for Favors/#16 pick.
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Post#6 » by Dustin5566 » Sat May 8, 2010 8:13 pm

If we do get him, I would love to package him and Hawes to NJ for Lopez and their pick.

Beno/FA
Evans/Garcia
Greene/Casspi
Landry/Favors/Brockman
Lopez/JT

Our frontcourt would be nasty. We would need backcourt help in FA and/or 2nd round.

Willie Warren would be a great addition in the 2nd if he falls that far.

Maybe a Raymond Felton to solidify our Back court?
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Post#7 » by OGSactownballer » Sat May 8, 2010 8:34 pm

Too amny people here are looking at that kind of a trade for a "right now" kind of guy. unfortunately, a guy like Gasol or Lopez still isn't a "right now" guy in terms of playoff-level winning right away. If you want to do something like that you are better off throwing big cash at Dirk or one of the established all-NBA first or second team FA's. That is the ONLY way that we can make that big of a leap. If you are going to chase after the Gasol's and Lopez's, yuou might as well just draft a guy like that ourselves.
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Post#8 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat May 8, 2010 8:36 pm

Norbit wrote:Seriously I hope we win either the 1st or 2nd pick just so we can trade down for either favors/cousins and get some extra assets. For example we get the 2nd pick and draft Evan Turner. We could then make a trade with like Minnesota, something along the lines of Turner/Nocioni for Favors/#16 pick.



Eh, you probably don't trade the "every 15 year prospect" for ANYTHING at this point. I actually think Wall and Reke would work better than Reke and Turner.
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Post#9 » by deNIEd » Sat May 8, 2010 9:00 pm

I don't see why Wall and Evans can't work out together. Neither are great three point shooters at this point, but if either player wants to enter the all-star/superstar level, they will both have to drastically improve their shooting.

If you have both Wall and Evans, like Calipari says, you have your guards attack and push the ball every single time. No opposing backcourt would ever come close to being able to stop our backcourt from getting to the basket. Defensively, Wall+Evans has the potential to being the best defensive backcourt in the league.

It would simply mean we would have to build the rest of our team to fit their games, i.e. three point specialist at the SF and PF positions + a smart and creative offensive game plan.

Our team is far from being able to think about fit over talent. We have very little talent and need everything we can get at this point. Draft BPA and figure out the rest later.
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Post#10 » by pillwenney » Sat May 8, 2010 10:19 pm

I think it could work to an extent, I just don't think it's ideal. I think it's much more important for us to have a big.

It certainly especially wouldn't work that well right now, with neither having a good outside shot. And really both need to develop solid outside shots. If, for instance, Tyreke is the only one that develops the outside shot, then he'll still have trouble penetrating with defenders cheating off of Wall, and it will still move him off the ball more, which isn't how he should be used. He can be a better shooter, but it's still not his game.

If we really like Cousins or Favors, and we get offered a sweet deal centered around them and something else, I think you have to look at it. But you have to maintain the leverage, and I think that means being patient. I think we would eventually have to trade one of them for a big of that caliber. It's just a matter of not letting another team force our hand.
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Post#11 » by cuad » Sat May 8, 2010 10:46 pm

I mean it could work if everyone else on the floor was a 45% three point shooter, but with the make up of the team currently, drafting a big man would have a better impact in the W column.
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Post#12 » by RoyalCourtJestr » Sat May 8, 2010 10:54 pm

I'm not entirely opposed to it, as long as both of them are fully committed to making it work. Two guys who are very nice passers, very athletic, great at slashing would work well if we had a good 3 point shooter on the wing (hummmm...) and a decent shooter PF (hummm...) and an interior defender. But one of them HAS to accept a backseat role. One of them has to be THE MAN and the other the sidekick. Can one of them do that? That is my really only concern.

And furthermore, I would rather have Tyreke than Wall. Just saying.
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Post#13 » by deNIEd » Sat May 8, 2010 11:01 pm

cuad wrote:I mean it could work if everyone else on the floor was a 45% three point shooter, but with the make up of the team currently, drafting a big man would have a better impact in the W column.


I don't think we should be drafting to work with our current team. Most of our players haven't showed enough for us to warrant us building around them. Almost everyone is replaceable at this point and there isn't really a single position that is locked up. Hawes, Thompson, Donte, Casspi have all shown potential, but nothing to suggest they will be a lock as a contending team's starter.

Lightning Strike wrote:And furthermore, I would rather have Tyreke than Wall. Just saying.

I think this is too early to say. I think among Rose, Evans, Westbrook, and Wall...at this point, you can argue for any of the four players being the best in 5 years from now. Every single player has strengths, but also every player has weaknesses they need to address.
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Post#14 » by Wolfay » Sun May 9, 2010 12:44 am

I'm not sure if it would work, but I think it's at least worth a shot. Best case scenario is that we have one of the most dominating backcourtx in the league, and worst case scenario is we trade one of them later on for something that does fit and fills a need. A win-win I think.
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Post#15 » by chriswebb86 » Sun May 9, 2010 12:55 am

Norbit wrote:Seriously I hope we win either the 1st or 2nd pick just so we can trade down for either favors/cousins and get some extra assets. For example we get the 2nd pick and draft Evan Turner. We could then make a trade with like Minnesota, something along the lines of Turner/Nocioni for Favors/#16 pick.
I really want Turner. I think he would be another perfect player to add team the team. After him we would need a solid big at the 5 and then I think we would be playoff bound.
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Post#16 » by chriswebb86 » Sun May 9, 2010 12:56 am

Dustin5566 wrote:If we do get him, I would love to package him and Hawes to NJ for Lopez and their pick.

Beno/FA
Evans/Garcia
Greene/Casspi
Landry/Favors/Brockman
Lopez/JT

Our frontcourt would be nasty. We would need backcourt help in FA and/or 2nd round.

Willie Warren would be a great addition in the 2nd if he falls that far.

Maybe a Raymond Felton to solidify our Back court?
That would be perfect for me. Hopefully they get the second pick and we can get Evan Turner with that. Not sure if they would actually make the trade, but I would love it.
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Post#17 » by longfellow44 » Sun May 9, 2010 3:16 am

I don't think calapri understands basketball at the pro level. It's not like college ball you can't just throw talent together and expect a winner. The best teams in the NBA have chemistry built on filling roles and finding players that fit together skill wise.

To have a sucessful team you need shooters slashers passers posters and defenders. If you get too many guys who do the same thing the team will ultimately fall short.

Boston works because their talent doesn't get bogged down all trying to do the same thing. Philly on the other hand are all trying to slash to the hoop which messes up their positioning and it kills their team. The bulls in the past were a team filled with shooters and no posters and they failed to succeed.
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Post#18 » by cuad » Sun May 9, 2010 8:25 am

Dustin5566 wrote:If we do get him, I would love to package him and Hawes to NJ for Lopez and their pick.

Beno/FA
Evans/Garcia
Greene/Casspi
Landry/Favors/Brockman
Lopez/JT

Our frontcourt would be nasty. We would need backcourt help in FA and/or 2nd round.

Willie Warren would be a great addition in the 2nd if he falls that far.

Maybe a Raymond Felton to solidify our Back court?

That would be incredible. Felton could probably be had for cheap now that he let Jameer light him up in the playoffs.

What that lineup is missing though is a three point shooter. Neither Greene or Casspi are good enough to give the rest of the team space.
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Post#19 » by ICMTM » Sun May 9, 2010 3:14 pm

Wait Coach Cal was supposed to say "No, Wall and Evans" can't play together and potentially hurt his own guy's draft stock? When do you EVER hear a coach say negative things about his players? Stating Wall and Evans couldn't exists could be damaging to John Wall's draft stock.
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Post#20 » by RIPskaterdude » Sun May 9, 2010 6:46 pm

ICMTM wrote:Wait Coach Cal was supposed to say "No, Wall and Evans" can't play together and potentially hurt his own guy's draft stock? When do you EVER hear a coach say negative things about his players? Stating Wall and Evans couldn't exists could be damaging to John Wall's draft stock.


Disagree. Nothing that ANYONE says will push Wall from the #1 spot. It's not like this draft is between Oden and Durant. Wall is the #1 pick.
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