Off-season scenarios

[sendai91]

So, now that the offseason is sadly upon us, what is the best case (realistic) scenario regarding what the Jazz do during the next several months?

Here's mine - obviously landing in the lottery would be great, if #1 - then trade down to #2, stockpile some dp's, draft Evan Turner and let Korver go. If #2, draft Turner outright, and if #3, trade down for multiple dp's.

If we finish #9 or #10, drafting Monroe seems nearly inevitable. Udoh wouldn't be bad, but I don't really care for Aldrich or other options. I can see us trading out of this spot, particularly if it enables us to move AK's or Memo's contract.

I am in the pro-Boozer camp, but don't know if we can afford anything more than $12mil per year. I say that Matthews is almost certain to be resigned and that Korver and Fesenko will both likely be let go.

So I see our team looking somewhat like this next year:

Williams Price FA
Matthews Miles Jeffers
AK Miles FA
Boozer Millsap Monroe
Okur Monroe Koufos

Approx $70 mil in salaries, with a necessity of trading AK or Okur by the trading deadline.

Do you see it playing out any better than this?

[seejaydeja]

I love Booz but if we resign him, I think it really hinders our ability to resign Matthews and Fes....

[awesomator]

If Ronnie Price is back next year I quit the team.

Sloan should be fired for not playing Gaines over Price.

If we trade AK and top 10 pick for nothing I quit the team.

If we draft Aldrich I quit the team.

[J_Ray]

If Ronnie Price is back next year I quit the team.

Sloan should be fired for not playing Gaines over Price.

If we trade AK and top 10 pick for nothing I quit the team.

If we draft Aldrich I quit the team.

Ok bye.

[J_Ray]

I don't see Boozer being back with the monetary issues and yet another poor playoff series against the Lakers. This pick is from the Knicks, so reality does say that 2.2% chance is actually better than it appears, but in all likely hood I don't see it moving up. So going into the offseason, our cap should be around $55M in committed salaries already, so here's what I think we should do.

1. Let Boozer walk
2. Resign Matthews, Sundiata, Jeffers, and I really would love Fesenko back but I don't see Sloan letting it happen.
3. Then during the draft we end up with preferably the actual C, Aldrich but I wouldn't mind if Utah drafted Greg Monroe or Epke Udoh. Then in the 2nd Round, look for a traditional hardworking guy like a Trevor Booker or anyone that has slipped. This means the cap will be around 62-63 Million.
4. We either resign Kyle Korver or go out and actually try to use the full MLE on a Mike Miller or Josh Childress (if he comes back).

The team looks like this:
Deron/Price/Gaines
Matthews/Korver or MLE/Jeffers
Miles/Kirilenko
Millsap/Kirilenko/Rookie
Rookie/Koufos - Okur probably won't be back until January the earliest, well back to being effective at least.

This team isn't that great scoring wise, but it has that Sloan feel to it and will fight every night.

[HolyToledo]

Sign and trade Boozer and Memo to GSW who need a scorer down low for Biedrens and Maggette. Start Biedrens at center and bring Meggette off the bench. The Jazz would then need to trade AK-47 by trading deadline to avoid luxury tax implications.

Why add megette bc thats the only way GSW do the trade! Jazz get defensive center plus 7th man. Ak-47 goes back to being 6th man with Miles and Matthews as starters. Eight man is Monroe and Kosta serves as 9th man with back up PG being Gaines/Price and Korver leaves.

[LjJazzman]

If Ronnie Price is back next year I quit the team.

Sloan should be fired for not playing Gaines over Price.

Well I doubt we trade him so see ya later.

I'm so back and forth on Price. Price has a pretty damn big impact of the game regardless if its positive or negative. I don't have statistical evidence but it seemed like a TON of our come back games were ignited by prices defense and intensity. I think he plays so damn hard, especially on D that it has a positive effect on the rest of the team.

In the lakers series it seemed the first 3 games the only time we had a decent run was with price in the 2nd half.

There are a handful of backups i'd love to have over price, but there arent a ton. I'm fine with having price be our guy for another year while we bring yadda around. I do think yadda has the potential to be our main backup and a nice piece to the team but I don't think hes there yet.

[Lava Rock Kid]

I want to see this team go out on a limb and try something different. I love boozer, but I dont think we need him, millsap and Okur back. I feel they are way to undersized.
If we are starting the year with Millsap and Okur as our starting big men then the season is over.

I think we need to package two of the above for one big man, Mabey Millsap and sign and trade boozer for sign and trade bosh.

Then Kirilenko, Korver, Mathews and our lotto pick for Duwayne Wade or other top tier swingman guard.

So my line up would be
Center, Bosh - Koufus
PF, Okur - Scrub
SF, Wade - scrub
SG, Miles - scrub
PG, Williams Price

I know our bench will be destroyed, but with a young team we need to focus on the playoffs not the players that are from 8-12 on the bench. We need a better starting five.
I know we may not be giving up enough for wade, but we need to throw in other players/picks

Minor changes will not vault us ahead of the Lakers, and I think a 7 man rotation for the playoffs is enough.

[seejaydeja]

http://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/13801299119

Williams said that while other teams make moves, the Jazz stay the same and keep seeing the same results.

This is a straight up call out to you Mr. Greg Miller. Time to check yourself and put a team together.

[JAZZ_FTW]

I would really like to see Boozer back but I'm betting he's gone. That being the case we should try and do a sign and trade and get something for him. My idea would be maybe S&T boozer for Jason Thompson and Sacramento's 1st rounder this year. That would give us 2 top 10 picks this year and Jason Thompson on his rookie deal. Thompson isn't a major piece but could play both the backup 4 or 5 at 6'11" and averaged right around 13 pts and 8 rebounds in his second year. That would really help us financially to have 3 new pieces also allowing us to resign matthews, gaines, korver, and jeffers.

Dwill, Gaines, Price
Matthews, Korver, Jeffers
AK, Miles, rookie
Millsap, Thompson, rookie
Okur, Thompson, Koufus

[GP]

That is disconcerting that DW said that.

Millsap, Boozer and Okur are not working as our front line. So we have one guy who is a pf in a sf's body. A prototypical elite pf, who when healthy is a beast. Then we have our slow foot center who prefers to shoot 3pts. Pairing these guys up was an experiment and obviously, its not working. Time to break them up. I like Millsap as a backup, he provides a lot of scoring off the bench and a different look. Boozer is great, but he may have the most sign and trade value. Okur is not the player this team need. As has been apparent for 3 yrs, we need a defensive center, not a center who stays 20ft from the basket.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

We need a defensive big no matter what happens.

I think the playoffs confirmed that Millsap can take over for Boozer, I don't see why we should re-sign Boozer after what Millsap showed us (and what Boozer didn't show us).

Re-signing Matthews is must for the Jazz, if we let him walk I don't know if I'll ever be able to forgive the organization.

Korver will be a must re-sign if we can't land another shooter.

I'm glad Deron is saying what he is saying.

Also, new uni's for next year confirmed by Greg Miller on his twitter account.

Memo is a huge question mark for the team, need to figure out his situation by the end of the off-season.

The draft will be huge for the Jazz. Could change the entire outlook of the team.

Do we have any chance of getting Bosh here in Utah?

[countrybama24]

I think we need to package two of the above for one big man, Mabey Millsap and sign and trade boozer for sign and trade bosh.

Then Kirilenko, Korver, Mathews and our lotto pick for Duwayne Wade or other top tier swingman guard.

Lol @ getting wade, why not toss in lebron too? We can't even get Bosh.

Millsap can be a starter, he would average close to 20-10, if not that. Yes he is undersized, but that only matters if you're ALSO bad at defense. Boozer was both. Paul is small, but he is strong, has a 7-1 wingspan, and is athletic enough to contest. He is a fine starter, imo an above average starting PF in the league, and can be your third best player on a championship team.

We should not resign boozer if we want to move forward. Sign and trade would be best. Millsap is better than boozer, just give him a chance to get boozers minutes. The LA series clearly demonstrates paul can be a force offensively.

I think the best way to get that all-star caliber player we need alongside dwill is to get into the top 5 picks, which most likely means the Wizards #5 pick. That would guarantee either Favors, Cousins or Johnson. I for one would be thrilled to get anyone of them.

I don't think we can really do any trades without taking on salary, I don't like the idea of mortgaging our future for someone like Okafor. We won't be able to sign a big time free agent until after Okur expires, and even then prob not someone for more than 10 mil, depending on if we keep, and how much we pay, CJ, Wesley and AK.

[Beto]

What about the possibility of both Bosh and Boozer agreeing to do a sign and trade?

Raptors get something for Bosh.
Jazz get something for Boozer.
Bosh and Boozer can sign longer deals close to max.

The Jazz would need to open up cap space by trading AK, Millsap, etc.

I know its wishful thinking since both players probably would rather play somewhere else. But its an an idea.

EDIT: Sorry, somebody already came up with this.

[DelaneyRudd]

The thing people will continue to forget all the way until the draft is Free Agency comes after the draft.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

I think Bosh would love to come play in Utah but no way Boozer wants to go to Toronto.

Bosh is the dream pick-up but I just can't see a way to make it happen.

[DelaneyRudd]

Lets just put the ideas of Bosh and Wade to rest this instance. It's totally not happening. And it's not necessarily because of the Jazz or Utah.

[Soul Patch]

http://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/13801299119

Williams said that while other teams make moves, the Jazz stay the same and keep seeing the same results.

This is a straight up call out to you Mr. Greg Miller. Time to check yourself and put a team together.

But don't get ahead of yourself and make hasty trades that will put this team in the **** hole for years to come. Please.

[DelaneyRudd]

Yeah, reactive trading works so well for Dallas. Not that they shouldn't explore solid trades of course.

[outerspacefella]

I think it's better to wait untill we actually know where the Jazz pick actually lands... then we can go on analyzing the offfseason issue....