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Post#1 » by PR07 » Mon May 10, 2010 5:33 am

Facing an 0-3 hole against the Suns in their semifinal series, the Spurs could be looking at major moves this offseason.

Marc Stein of ESPN.com writes that, according to sources, San Antonio is "increasingly optimistic about their ability to inject their front line with some new blood by convincing Brazilian forward Tiago Splitter ... to leave the European game to come to the NBA starting next season."

The Spurs drafted Splitter back in 2007.

Stein also wrote that Tony Parker, as strange as it sounds, is the team's best trade asset.

The point guard has one season at $13.5 million left on his contract and has reportedly been telling people that he is unsure about his future in San Antonio.


Let's say the Pacers were offered:

Troy Murphy and the #10 pick for Tony Parker

or

Jeff Foster, TJ Ford, and the #10 pick for Tony Parker

Would you make the trade?
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Post#2 » by Miller4ever » Mon May 10, 2010 6:18 am

I'd rather wait for 2011, because if he doesn't want to stay in San Antonio, he will become a free agent and we'll have the cap space to sign a PG in his prime who's the same age as Granger and he'll have championship experience. With Granger on the wing, Parker splitting defenses, Hibbert pounding it inside, the McBob/Hansbrough combo bringing the "Davis" factor, and Rush hopefully playing like Eddie Jones, we'll have a tough team to beat. Whoever we draft this year will also be very nice.

The problem with trading for Parker now is that it'll likely be a 1-year rental, and we're losing a pick.
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Post#3 » by RAW » Mon May 10, 2010 7:47 am

But, unlike Stojakovic a few years ago, we'll have cap room to actually sign Parker to a long term deal.


It won't happen, though. We're the Pacers. This kind of stuff never happens for us.
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Post#4 » by Grang33r » Mon May 10, 2010 5:22 pm

If a trade is the only way we can get a player in here then yeah i would offer up the 10th pick, however, Parker would need to be very open in re-signing long term.
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Post#5 » by Wizop » Mon May 10, 2010 9:21 pm

the only way I go for Parker is if you think you are done rebuilding and no way do I give up a lottery pick to get him. would I sign him for the mid-level exemption in 2011? yup. might even make a deal for Splitter.
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Post#6 » by PR07 » Mon May 10, 2010 10:51 pm

We wouldn't have to use the MLE, not that he'd ever sign for that, because we'd have the cap space to sign him outright.
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Post#7 » by ardthomp » Mon May 10, 2010 11:48 pm

Why would you want Parker? He is becoming injury prone.
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Post#8 » by 8305 » Mon May 10, 2010 11:54 pm

Interesting idea. I would think the Spurs would want Murphy and the pick. I think Murphy would actually be a nice fit for them. And the pick gives them the chance to speed up the inevitable rebuild.

There's a good bit of risk with Parker. 28 years old and a game that relies on speed and quickness. Some would say that means he has about 2 maybe 3 years of playing at his current level. He's already dealing with injuries. And you would have to resign him next summer.

On the other hand, this could be to us what Billips has been to Denver. A guy who knows what it takes to win who immdeiately becomes the team leader. What kind of quantum leap can the Pacers make with a line up of Parker, Rush, Granger, Hansbrough and Hibbert? How far away would we be?

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Hansbrough vs Martin
Granger vs Anthony
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Post#9 » by Scoot McGroot » Mon May 10, 2010 11:56 pm

I'd possibly do Foster, Ford and the #10 for Parker. We'd clear some cap now, and get the best PG we've had in decades.

However, I'd have to be darned sure he'd be willing to extend or re-sign here in Indy, before giving up a lotto pick for him. We're not in a position where we have "enough talent" to give up a lotto pick for a one year rental. How much did giving up a lotto pick for Al Harrington hurt us?
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Post#10 » by PR07 » Tue May 11, 2010 6:46 am

Scoot McGroot wrote:However, I'd have to be darned sure he'd be willing to extend or re-sign here in Indy, before giving up a lotto pick for him. We're not in a position where we have "enough talent" to give up a lotto pick for a one year rental. How much did giving up a lotto pick for Al Harrington hurt us?


In reality, not as bad as it could've. 2007 was a relatively weak draft first round outside the Top 5 and Joakim Noah. The only good players in Round 1 that I'm truly sad we missed out on are Thaddaeus Young and Aaron Brooks looking back at the draft now, and who knows if we would've taken either.
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Post#11 » by 8305 » Tue May 11, 2010 8:51 pm

If the Nets get the 1st pick and Devin Harris was available too. Who would you rather persue Harris or Parker?
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Post#12 » by Miller4ever » Tue May 11, 2010 9:10 pm

They're comparable agewise, talentwise, and injurypronewise. Therefore, it's Parker's championship experience that trumps Harris.

Still, Parker would only be for one year. It could work like this:

This season we go for Harris with our #10. Failing that, next season we go for Parker with our $$$.
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Post#13 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue May 11, 2010 11:18 pm

PR07 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:However, I'd have to be darned sure he'd be willing to extend or re-sign here in Indy, before giving up a lotto pick for him. We're not in a position where we have "enough talent" to give up a lotto pick for a one year rental. How much did giving up a lotto pick for Al Harrington hurt us?


In reality, not as bad as it could've. 2007 was a relatively weak draft first round outside the Top 5 and Joakim Noah. The only good players in Round 1 that I'm truly sad we missed out on are Thaddaeus Young and Aaron Brooks looking back at the draft now, and who knows if we would've taken either.


Stuckey, Nick Young, Morris Almond, and even Rudy Fernandez were mentioned. I'd sure take one of those guys (hell even Almond) over nothing. Who knows what we could've done with the value of a lotto pick otherwise. How could we have developed a player differently, or possibly used in other deals.
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Post#14 » by 8305 » Tue May 11, 2010 11:49 pm

I would differentiate the current situation from 2006 in that we know better where the franchise is. What was really stupid about the 2006 transaction was that the pick was basically traded blind. We had no inkling where we would finish that year and there was plenty of reason to believe that Al Harrington added to that Pacer team might not work.

At least now we will have a pretty good idea of the prospects available and this team is an easier read than the 2006 team.
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Post#15 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed May 12, 2010 2:17 am

True. However, we've given up or wasted so many 1st round picks lately, that it's left us with a barren supply of talent. We have talent from the past 2 drafts, and Granger. That's about it. That's one of the biggest reasons I personally see for us not having a sustainable team over the past decade.
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Post#16 » by 8305 » Wed May 12, 2010 3:50 am

No arguement here. Interesting to consider where the Pacers would be today if we didn't sit out the 07 draft and whiff in 06.

Pacers are in a tough spot. This team isn't talented enough to really compete so they are really still the talent accumulation phase of the rebuild and that would say you don't trade draft choices. On the other hand if Granger is going to be the offensive catalist they haven't got that many years to put the right pieces around him.
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Post#17 » by Grang33r » Wed May 12, 2010 4:46 am

8305 wrote:No arguement here. Interesting to consider where the Pacers would be today if we didn't sit out the 07 draft and whiff in 06.

Pacers are in a tough spot. This team isn't talented enough to really compete so they are really still the talent accumulation phase of the rebuild and that would say you don't trade draft choices. On the other hand if Granger is going to be the offensive catalist they haven't got that many years to put the right pieces around him.


I don't know. In 06', there isn't anybody after our pick that makes you feel bad. Besides Rondo, who was passed up by many teams, and i doubt we would have picked him and even if we did, i don't think he'd have the same success here then he has had in Boston. I think adding KG and Allen to Pierce really helped his game, as well as being coached by Doc Rivers. Besides Rondo, did anyone else go after our pick that would have made any kind of difference for us?

In the 07' draft, i think they would have picked Acie Law at the same pick they lost to Atlanta. I remember they were really high on Law. I also remember they were really high on Rudy Fernandez, although, i don't think they would have reached that high for him. I highly doubt they would have picked Stuckly. No major loss on Law, although, i still would like to have Rudy on this team.
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Post#18 » by 8305 » Wed May 12, 2010 1:08 pm

You're right about the 2006 draft. There wasn't much there. But, looking back on what was said and done at the time the Pacers actions just scream ineptness. Shawne Williams, at least do your homework. Did he wait until signing with the Pacers to start hanging out with felons? A guy with that bagage shouldn't even be on your board. James White, they thought about taking him with the first pick and then cut him? Once again a guy who has since admitted he didn't get it when he first came into the league. I wonder if the Pacers did any due diligence before bringing these guys in for a workout? Then the following year no 2nd round pick in addition to not having a 1st. Oh yeah, we traded that away to get James White. On draft night 2007 Bird and Walsh might as well have worn signs that said "Yes we are that stupid."

You may be right about taking Acie Law in 2007 particularly if they didn't give any more thought to that draft than they did in 2006's.
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Post#19 » by Grang33r » Wed May 12, 2010 6:35 pm

Just saw ESPN Sports Center and they were talking about a Parker trade to New York..... wtf? What do they have to offer? If memory serves right, they don't even have a first round pick for the next two years.
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Post#20 » by Miller4ever » Wed May 12, 2010 6:36 pm

That was them swinging for the fences, something that people were calling for last draft. However, given their past history, I don't blame them for going safe.

If they whiff again, I reckon people wouldn't be happy that Bird went for it, they'll just be angry that Bird didn't pick right.

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