Im starting to get worried about Snider

[Hendrix]

Snider's starting to look pretty good lately.

What do you guys think is a reasonable projection for him?

.265%/.350%/.500%/.850%

~650ab's, ~45 2b's, ~30-35hr's, ~80bb's?

[Avenger]

this season?
i see 260/340/460 115-120 OPS+
27 homeruns 15 SB's

[Schad]

Snider's starting to look pretty good lately.

What do you guys think is a reasonable projection for him?

.265%/.350%/.500%/.850%

~650ab's, ~45 2b's, ~30-35hr's, ~80bb's?

This is what I had him down for a couple weeks ago:

Once his average figures itself out, he's going to end up around .255/.350/.475. Heard it here first.

Still looks about right, though perhaps a slightly lower OBP. While he's killing it now, he's bound to have prolonged slumps, so I'd be a bit surprised if he ended up above the .250s.

Doubt that he'll reach any of 30-35 HRs/45 doubles/80 walks, as with a .265 average and a full season (say, 640 PAs) that would leave him somewhere around .265/.360/.512, which would mean an OPS+ in the 130s.

[Hendrix]

I didn't mean this season. I meant what kind of player he'll develop into.

[Schad]

Oh, definitely; I wouldn't be at all surprised if his OPS pushed .900 on a regular basis.

[Hoopstarr]

80ish extra base hits AND 80 walks would pretty much make him a top 5 hitter in baseball so that's a lot to expect. I don't think he'll walk that much but the doubles and HRs are right on. He'll be a plus LF and steal 10 bases or so in his younger years too.

[Hendrix]

80ish extra base hits AND 80 walks would pretty much make him a top 5 hitter in baseball so that's a lot to expect. I don't think he'll walk that much but the doubles and HRs are right on. He'll be a plus LF and steal 10 bases or so in his younger years too.

So far in the majors he's drawn 48 walks over 486PA's. Which would be ~70bb's for 700 PA's. In the minors he drew 168 walks over 1506 PA's. Which is 78bb's for 700 Pa's. He can still improve there too. Doesn't seem that unreasnable imo.

[Relentless88]

I wonder if the OP is still worried. Snider's looking real good lately.

[Hoopstarr]

80ish extra base hits AND 80 walks would pretty much make him a top 5 hitter in baseball so that's a lot to expect. I don't think he'll walk that much but the doubles and HRs are right on. He'll be a plus LF and steal 10 bases or so in his younger years too.

So far in the majors he's drawn 48 walks over 486PA's. Which would be ~70bb's for 700 PA's. In the minors he drew 168 walks over 1506 PA's. Which is 78bb's for 700 Pa's. He can still improve there too. Doesn't seem that unreasnable imo.

Only 22 players have ever done at least 30/40/80 in a season. And remember, he'll still K a bit too. I searched for how many seasons there were with a min. of 30/45/80 BB and 140 Ks into Baseball Reference and it spit out 1 player who has ever done that. Even with 30/40/70/110, there were only 5 results. Don't know who they were because it's subscriber now, but Delgado was one of them. Point is, it'll be hard to do all of that at once. Delgado averaged around 40/40/90/125 in his prime so that would be a great bar to reach. I think Snider can easily average around 33/42/70/130 in his prime.

[Lateral Quicks]

Isn't the kid only 22? It's still way to early to project just where he'll end up. I think we can all agree he'll be a top-of-the-line power guy.

I could see .300/.375/.525/.900 from him in a couple years, if not sooner. He should slot nicely into the 5-hole behind Wells, with either Hill or Wallace backing him up.

This Lewis kid is growing on me, and looking at his stats what he's doing now is pretty standard for him. Ideally you want a .400 OBP guy at the leadoff spot, but you can put up with a .350 guy if you get the extra power Lewis provides.

The second spot in the order is a trouble spot. I love HIll as a hitter, but not necessarily in the 2nd spot unless he ups is OBP. Otherwise, he fits better in the 6th slot, breaking up the lefties of Snider and Wallace. Or maybe you put Snider at 2?

1. Lewis
2. SS?
3. Lind
4. Wells
5. Snider
6. Hill
7. Wallace
8. 3B
9. C

OR

1. Lewis
2. Snider
3. Wells
4. Lind
5. Hill
6. Wallace
7. 3B
8. C
9. SS

[Hendrix]

Only 22 players have ever done at least 30/40/80 in a season. And remember, he'll still K a bit too. I searched for how many seasons there were with a min. of 30/45/80 BB and 140 Ks into Baseball Reference and it spit out 1 player who has ever done that. Even with 30/40/70/110, there were only 5 results. Don't know who they were because it's subscriber now, but Delgado was one of them. Point is, it'll be hard to do all of that at once. Delgado averaged around 40/40/90/125 in his prime so that would be a great bar to reach. I think Snider can easily average around 33/42/70/130 in his prime.

I think you're looking too narrow. Like when someone makes a bunch of specific criteria for a basketball player and determines Jeff Green is one of only 6 players in the last decade to average 16/6/2 with LBJ, Marion, Pierce, etc... or something like that. The #'s I projected worked out to ~.850ops. Nor really a historic projection like you're saying. How he gets to that I don't think is the biggest deal in the world.

It seems you think the doubles, and HR projections are fine, and your only discrepency is 10bb's over the course of a season. Seems kinda trivial imo. I'm also not saying he's going to meet those #'s all 100%, but more so that I think he can be in and around that area.