Lebron/Bulls gossip & rumors (merging)

[JackFinn]

the whole MJ shadow is blown out of proportion.

The people using that argument are ignoring 2 things:

1. Switching to Chicago doesn't suddenly put LeBron under MJ's shadow. It moves him from MJ's shadow, where he's been kept hostage for the past 7 years, to MJ's penis' shadow.

2. The other issues factoring in LeBron's decision significantly outweigh the shadow issue. Like the poor supporting casts Cleveland has given LeBron during 7 ringless years. Like Chicago's far superior and young cast, including a too-legit-to-quit sharply improving stud who defers, a Noah, a Deng, and 6 million U.S. And like the Bulls ability to make up that 6th contract year edge Cleveland has when he's up for an extension in 3 years.

[j-smooth]

well miami's fanbase is pathetic. every Heat game ive watched there are hundreds of empty seats. The UC is almost always sold out. We support our team even when they dont contend for a title every year. Chicago is the place to go.

[Dekadez]

Lebron going to Chicago would be combining my favorite player with one of my favorite teams: A match made in heaven, can't go wrong.

I do hope he knows his best chance at winning a ring lies in Chicago. Pair him with an extremely talented PG and one of the most energetic C's in the league and it just cannot go wrong. All it would take is adding a natural shooter to build a dynasty.

OT: I'm glad I've found my way to this forum. Discussing NBA basketball in Belgium is not that easy.

[AKfanatic]

miami could sign wade, lebron and have 9 mil left, not factoring in not trading away beasley, cook or jones

just saying

Hmm i've never heard that before. Miami could also sign joe johnson and strike out on everyone else.


just saying

[Ben]

No question about it, if Lebron really wants to play with Wade, Miami can put together a great team around him. Plus, if it's clear that Lebron is going to leave and Cleveland wants to get something back for him, Miami can give them Beasley (play Jamison at the 3) to share time with Hickson (JJ plays at C when they go small). Beasley could easily score 20ppg on a team that's "his," and someone like that-- a former #2 draft pick-- could help the front office to ease the fans' pain from losing Lebron. I'm not saying that Cleveland would be good if they got Beasley, but they might well prefer getting him from Miami over getting Deng from us.

As far as who else to sign if we got Lebron, there's a thread about that already but for what it's worth:
Best thing would be to trade Deng as part of the deal for Lebron. Would free up more capspace to sign a good big man (Lee or Boozer). Or trade Deng for a big man (Boozer, Al Jeff, Bosh, Amare, etc).

If that weren't possible I would try to sign Craig Smith and an affordable, really good shooter (maybe Redick) along with vet minimum guys.

[-Illmatic-]

I'd also sign Acie Law and Chris Richard to vet min.

You lost me right there....

Can you name some better 3rd string PG's and PF's that will sign for the Vet min? Especially since they have already been on the team and Richards and Noah are friends.Chemistry is important.

[miamiballer]

the way i look at it though is that miami and chicago SHOULD come out on top in 2010 regardless

these are 2 desirable cities to plan in and chi has great pieces in place and miami has the inside track on one of the top 3 players in the game

if miami lands lebron that should open the door for bosh to chicago

same for miami if lebron chooses chi

[waffle]

I guess I deleted my post, but I could see Bron going to Miami. Attractive city, I think he and Wade get along, a GM with a rep (whether or not it is still deserved) and SOME ability to improve the rest of the roster. Hey, if that is what he wants, bingo. BUT, as I did say before, the rest of that roster is god aweful and would need lots of help to even achieve average status.

[madvillian]

It's amazing, to me at least, how quickly this idea of Lebron to Chicago has coalesced in the past 72 hours or so.

Suddenly, there seems to be real, qualified "smoke signals" -- Chicago has at least a puncher's chance at landing Lebron. Compared to the virtually nill odds before this, that's quite the ramp-up.

From the Calipari rumors, to the MSM articles to Sonny and Oak's feelings to the anonymous NBA GM quotes to Gar's "we're going to be patient with the coaching search" theme, it all seems to point at least in theory towards the idea that Chicago has a chance at this thing.

Heck, I've already warmed to Lebron, embraced him even, and he's not even in a Bulls uniform yet. Any worries I had about rooting for this guy are officially ovah!

[waffle]

yeah, it must have been some different madvillian....an imposter.

Completely agree, though. As has been pointed out before, hated the worm, until he was OUR worm...

[Ralphb07]

I do think all this LBJ talk gives us a better chance at Bosh and Wade if we miss out on LBJ. We're being hyped big time and we all know Bosh and Wade are hearing what's going on. The Bulls just need to do it all right with the coaching, etc.

[madvillian]

yeah, it must have been some different madvillian....an imposter.

Completely agree, though. As has been pointed out before, hated the worm, until he was OUR worm...

Exactly. If Lebron does come I look forward to the day where he has the ball with 2 minutes left to go, he's dribbling out by the top of the key in a tie game -- Rose is in the corner running off a screen, Noah has inside rebounding position -- while feeling completely confident that the nervousness in my gut isn't fear or anxiety but just the anticipation of something good happening.

The opposite of Game 3 against Cleveland.

[MAQ]

I do think all this LBJ talk gives us a better chance at Bosh and Wade if we miss out on LBJ. We're being hyped big time and we all know Bosh and Wade are hearing what's going on.

Yeah but it's not Bulls management going out to the media and saying "Man, Bosh and Wade are good and all, but we want the BIG DAWG!!! LBJ where you at son??!?!"

It's the media hyping us. It hasn't (or at least it should not) affected our standing with any other players in any way.

[Senor Chang]

Jalen Rose's twitter

#nba(Bulls)Rose is legit but why would LBJ want to play in MJ shadow-Noah who dissed him & his hometown-Deng/Hinrich high salaries-no coach?
about 1 hour ago via UberTwitter
Retweeted by 22 people

http://twitter.com/jalenrose/status/14041428481


Charles Oakley

Don't kid yourself. Number 23 is as good as gone. And it has nothing to do with LeBron James announcing months ago that he was changing his uniform number from 23 to 6.

"Chicago or Miami," says Charles Oakley, the former Knicks power forward. "Not New York. He's leaving."

Oakley has become a friend/mentor to the NBA's two-time MVP over the last few years. They have an Ohio connection - Oakley owns a home in the Cleveland suburbs - as well as a world-famous connection. Oakley is best friends with James' idol, Michael Jordan.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... kidoo.html

[The ROY]

Jalen Rose's twitter

#nba(Bulls)Rose is legit but why would LBJ want to play in MJ shadow-Noah who dissed him & his hometown-Deng/Hinrich high salaries-no coach?
about 1 hour ago via UberTwitter
Retweeted by 22 people

http://twitter.com/jalenrose/status/14041428481

He dissed Cleveland, not Akron.

Rodman punked Pippen on numerous occasions, that didn't stop him from winning rings with em'.

WHY would anyone want to play in Chicago then Jalen?

[Red Larrivee]

This whole MJ's Shadow argument is going to drive me to an early grave. How **** stupid can you be?

[TheAdmiral]

This whole MJ's Shadow argument is going to drive me to an early grave. How **** stupid can you be?

It's driving me nuts, honestly.

[PJ Brown]

This whole MJ's Shadow argument is going to drive me to an early grave. How **** stupid can you be?

How much do you want to bet that Jalen is convinced that MJ's shadow was a huge factor in his own failure in Chicago? The dissing of the Bulls appeal by folks like Avery and Jalen is so utterly transparent.

That said, I tend to think that it can be a minor factor, just not enough to cancel out the other obvious benefits.

[MAQ]

This whole MJ's Shadow argument is going to drive me to an early grave. How **** stupid can you be?

How much do you want to bet that Jalen is convinced that MJ's shadow was a huge factor in his own failure in Chicago? The dissing of the Bulls appeal by folks like Avery and Jalen is so utterly transparent.

I think Avery's was quite transparent, especially as he goes on to say Devin Harris is a good fit for LBJ but not Rose.

Jalen is a very truthful person though. I didn't take his comments to be a farce. They may not be accurate, but I do believe he means what he's saying.

[The ROY]

This whole MJ's Shadow argument is going to drive me to an early grave. How **** stupid can you be?

How much do you want to bet that Jalen is convinced that MJ's shadow was a huge factor in his own failure in Chicago? The dissing of the Bulls appeal by folks like Avery and Jalen is so utterly transparent.

I think Avery's was quite transparent, especially as he goes on to say Devin Harris is a good fit for LBJ but not Rose.

Jalen is a very truthful person though. I didn't take his comments to be a farce. They may not be accurate, but I do believe he means what he's saying.

That had everything to do with his possible job prospect with NJ.

Just last year he was saying how Rose is the type of star people play to watch. D-Rose and Joakim wouldn't of quit like D-Harris and the rest of the Nets did. I like their talent though.