KG to LBJ: Loyalty Hurts You Because You Cant Get Youth Back

[funkatron101]

How can you defend that roster? To be fair?

Not one of those players, I repeat NOT ONE, ever contributed to a winning team in their career.

How dare you speak of Mark Madsen and his dance moves that way.

[SSUBluesman]

How can you defend that roster? To be fair?

Not one of those players, I repeat NOT ONE, ever contributed to a winning team in their career.

There was a poster a few years back who actually used to argue that RD was on par with/superior to guys like J-Rich and Richard Jefferson(there were some others I can't recall). It was absolutely idiotic then and more so now given the fact that J-Rich is a big part of the WCF Suns and RD can't crack the rotation of the f'n Clippers. RD could show up at an over 35 pick-up game and he'd be the leading scorer on the losing team. The guy is a loser and always will be.

Look at someone like EG. He'd be comparable to someone like, say, Adam Morrison (a talented guy who couldn't put it together). Where would the Lakers be if Morrison was expected to contribute as a rotation player and possibly even as a starter?

The fact is that Taylor (and his puppet McFail) quit trying, making his comments about KG all the more pathetic.

[Krapinsky]

Not one of those players, I repeat NOT ONE, ever contributed to a winning team in their career.

Hassell contributed to the 2002-03 team that got to the WCF. Actually he was arguably the 3rd most valuable player on that team.

I suppose you mean the 2003-2004 team? He played for a 30-52 Bull team in 2002-2003 in which he shot 36%.

Regardless. In 2003-2004 he averaged 5 points per game, 9th most on the team. Arguably the 3rd most valuable player? Was he more important than Sprewell or Cassell?

[Klomp]

Regardless. In 2003-2004 he averaged 5 points per game, 9th most on the team. Arguably the 3rd most valuable player? Was he more important than Sprewell or Cassell?

Ever heard of a thing called defense?

[Worm Guts]

Regardless. In 2003-2004 he averaged 5 points per game, 9th most on the team. Arguably the 3rd most valuable player? Was he more important than Sprewell or Cassell?

Ever heard of a thing called defense?

He still wasn't in the top 3.

[Calinks]

These words don't affect me. KG had faith in the organization and they never delivered. He isn't angry at Minnesota or anything it's just the facts. He stuck around out of loyalty to the fans, the people he worked with and the state. He wanted to build something here but he never could. Vice versa or FO has been very loyal to many players. Keeping them around and giving them deals that they probably didn't deserve. I think loyalty is a great thing but there are times when you have to make more logical decisions. Kobe threatened to leave his team and look what they did for him. No one should feel obligated to stick with a continually sinking ship unless they agreed to do so before hand.

[shrink]

Look at our roster from KG's last season with the Wolves. How many of those guys will still be in the NBA next year?

Vin Baker? No
Mark Blount? No
Ricky Davis? Probably not
Randy Foye? Yes
Eddie Griffin? RIP
Trenton Hassell? No
Troy Hudson? No
Mike James? No
Marko Jaric? No
Mark Madsen? No
Rashad McCants? No
Justin Reed? No
Craig Smith? Yes
Bracey Wright? No

Is that the worst roster of all time?

To be fair, 5 years is forever in NBA terms. There is a lot of turnover in the league and many of those guys had been playing for 4-5 years already.

Moreover, this was after a number of seasons with no picks, with Cassell and Sprewell gone, and some of the guys on the roster (Hudson and Hassell) were there because Garnett wanted them there. That year, MIN fans demanded a title for KG despite the wolves having no assets to get one, so they had to gamble that Blount and Ricky Davis could be #2 and #3 options. They were clearly flawed players, but Blount has size and Davis had the ability (though not the heart) to be a 20-5-5 player. These were the only guys we could afford and when they didn't pan out, it wasn't a shocker.

I could mention that KG has played with, by my count 8 All Stars (Googs, Laettner, Marbury, Cassell, Sprewell, Szczerbiak, Billups (later), Brandon). Like your point, they are both true, but I think both are misleading.

[casey]

There was a poster a few years back who actually used to argue that RD was on par with/superior to guys like J-Rich and Richard Jefferson(there were some others I can't recall). It was absolutely idiotic then and more so now given the fact that J-Rich is a big part of the WCF Suns and RD can't crack the rotation of the f'n Clippers. RD could show up at an over 35 pick-up game and he'd be the leading scorer on the losing team. The guy is a loser and always will be.

Yeah, shrink's still around.

[GopherIt!]

Casey 1247 - Shrink 1247

wow, you guys are all tied up again.

[nc21tarheels]

KG has EVERY right to say that. As sad as it is to say, KG should have left YEARS before he actually did.

[Worm Guts]

I think the opposite. He should have never left.

[nc21tarheels]

I think the opposite. He should have never left.

would he have been able to accomplish his dream of a NBA Championship by staying? Nope

[Klomp]

Talk about a sight for sore eyes......

[Worm Guts]

I think the opposite. He should have never left.

would he have been able to accomplish his dream of a NBA Championship by staying? Nope

Probably not, but it doesn't matter. KG is supposed to be a Wolf.

[nc21tarheels]

it mattered to me.

[Worm Guts]

I don't exactly mean it didn't matter, just that it would matter more to me for KG to a Wolf for life.

[funkatron101]

I don't exactly mean it didn't matter, just that it would matter more to me for KG to a Wolf for life.

I just don't think that will happen any more in the league. Maybe Duncan and Pierce since they already got rings, but if they get the right offer? Who knows.

[lobishome]

KG to LBJ: Loyalty Hurts You Because You Cant Get Youth Back

I agree, I can understand "loyalty" in a scenario with players formed by the team, but ... Loyalty? In the NBA? ... The NBA is a business and his players are ware, and if it's a business, then it's a business for everybody.

For example, does exist loyalty between Rubio and Minnesota? ... nah ... both parts look the best for themselves. If Minnesota picks Wall, then Rubio will force his trade, otherwise he could lose the control of his career, and as Lebron Says, you can't get youth back. Rubio can't lose one or two years in a bench if his adapatation to the NBA is slower than Wall.