Lebron/Bulls gossip & rumors (merging)

[blumeany]

For all the negatives you could point out about Bulls' management, you have to agree that they treated Jordan pretty damn well. They only drew the line when it came to giving him ownership (since it's not really Jerry's to give anyway). Otherwise, they paid him a ton of money at the end of his contract, they let him retire and play baseball for a while. They built a new arena with a prominent statue of him out front - before they were probably 100% sure he was going to retire for good. I mean, they treated the guy like a king.

The Bulls organization has show two things in the time I've been alive - 1. When they have a legit star, they are more than willing to throw out gobs of money to surround him with talent and keep the team winning, and 2. They will work to make as much money as possible when they don't have a legit star.

As much as I've never been a huge fan of Lebron, my hope is that he comes here, grows up a lot, and wins a few titles.

[blumeany]

Unless New York signs Bosh and Wade at 12:01am on July 1st, Chicago is a better destination for LeBron.

[waffle]

I stated yesterday that I felt my #2 destination was an as yet unnamed team via S&T. But I started thinking about it and couldn't come up with an obvious one that 1) could give up enough and 2) would still have an attractive team left. And Bron is in the drivers seat here. He can say "yes, you can sign and trade me to X under these conditions" or he can say "forget it, I want to go to an existing, good team, 6th year be damned" I think that extra year will not be his top concern. He's going to make oodles of money anyway.

[BR0D1E86]

ROFLMAO. This made me wonder if it is even worth replying. Chandler is easily a better defender than Deng and Rose combined and Gallinari is an above average defender.

I’m sad that you got suspended. We need this kind of cockeyed optimism combined with a complete and total lack of objective basketball analysis all rolled into some sort of absurd and baseless arrogance. It warms the cockles of my heart.

[Ralphb07]

Too many pages to know if this was posted but he's a follow up to the LBJ looking for houses in Chicago from that Justin dude:

I have heard through a reliable source that LeBron was seen looking for houses Tuesday in Highland Park, IL. He was seen entering one of two Range Rovers parked outside a house with a ‘for sale’ sign. If anyone is unfamiliar with the Chicagoland area, that location would be anywhere roughly 10-20 minutes away from the Berto Center in Deerfield where the Bulls practice. Coincidence? I think not.

Obviously, there can be no official negotiations between teams and prospective free agents until the July 1 date, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be under the table talks. I’m not a betting man, but this would be one of those rare occasions where I would throw some money on LeBron wearing number six in a Bulls uniform in the fall of 2010.

http://weinerswords.wordpress.com/2010/ ... -it-is-so/

[BR0D1E86]

Reasons LeBron will be a Knick:

He's a business man! Chicago isn't a big enough market for him!

Toney Douglas>Derrick Rose

Eddy Curry>Joakim Noah

Wilson Chandler = MVP

The Knicks can add Bosh or keep David Lee along with LeBron and keep still 4 players on the roster

Mike D'Antoni's system is tailor-made for the playoffs, when it matters most

Did I mention the big market???

Yes, but you failed to say mecca several times, mention how Tony Douglas averaged 18+ ppg in games where he scored at least 18 ppg, Wilson Chandler’s drug bust will only fuel his burning desire to prove that his mediocre stats on a bad team were just the start to a hall of fame career, and Galinari is essentially Dirk if he never missed a shot.

[TheAdmiral]

Knicksick, I just got this strange call from Shaq. He wanted me to convey a message to you. I'm not sure what he meant. Something about wanting feedback from you regarding his anus? He said you'd understand.

[JackFinn]

ROFLMAO. This made me wonder if it is even worth replying. Chandler is easily a better defender than Deng and Rose combined and Gallinari is an above average defender.

I’m sad that you got suspended. We need this kind of cockeyed optimism combined with a complete and total lack of objective basketball analysis all rolled into some sort of absurd and baseless arrogance. It warms the cockles of my heart.

Dear all trolls: King Kong ain't got **** on our je ne sais quoi.

[BillyDW]

Has anyone explained why Lebron will care about a 6 year deal? Is the new collective barganing going to be worse for guys like him? If not, he will certainly do a 3 year opt out which negates any substantial benefit of the 6th year.

Wade at 28, will care about it and probably not attract alot of MAX interest as a 31 year old. Bosh and Lebron will certainly be viable max guys at 28 years old, why wouldn't they repeat the current scenario?

If all is going well they do a Kobe deal prior to FA in 2013-14.

If this theory holds, the S&T options for Toronto & Cleaveland don't look great. Also, do you think either of those teams will attract FA's of higher quality than Luol Deng in the next few years? I don't. If they are realistic he might be their best option of the pieces that their player's chosen destinations will offer.

[Toro Rojo]

I dont get why people think thats its an "automatic" that if LeBron goes to NYK, he will lose for the rest of his life. Maybe he wont win next season if he is joined by Bosh @ MSG, but they will be a Playoffs team and will be able to build from there. When you have two stars, one of them being the best player in the league (IMO), you will be in contention for a long time and be able to add pieces down the road. Who wouldnt want to join those two in New York?
By no means Im saying he is going to NYK (I have him re-signing with the Cavs for 3 seasons), but people exagerate (IMO) what would mean for LeBron to join the Knicks.
I just cant see him in Miami.
For me, its a three horse race: Cleveland, Chicago & New York. Thats it.

[Gray Poster]

I dont get why people think thats its an "automatic" that if LeBron goes to NYK, he will lose for the rest of his life. Maybe he wont win next season if he is joined by Bosh @ MSG, but they will be a Playoffs team and will be able to build from there. When you have two stars, one of them being the best player in the league (IMO), you will be in contention for a long time and be able to add pieces down the road. Who wouldnt want to join those two in New York?
By no means Im saying he is going to NYK (I have him re-signing with the Cavs for 3 seasons), but people exagerate (IMO) what would mean for LeBron to join the Knicks.
I just cant see him in Miami.
For me, its a three horse race: Cleveland, Chicago & New York. Thats it.

The point isn't so much that the Knicks will never be a winning team, it is that they are a long way from a title contending team. Bosh and James can give them a 45-50 win team. LeBron has a 60 win team in Cleveland, so why would he move?

Whereas LeBron on the Bulls could equal 55-60 wins right away and more later on.

[keymax]

I think Gallo is decent and can be a good 'third best guy' player.

Chandler is obscenely overrated and is a dime a dozen player. No one is looking at teams and saying - "That Wilson Chandler - he's a guy I want to play with". On top of that - as you've pointed out previously - Chandler and Gallo play the same position as Lebron.

I think Gallinari's ceiling is a slightly worse Peja Stojakovic,which would be pretty good.
but it's unbelievable which comparisons are thrown in by Knicks fans:

"I keep hearing people compare gallo to dirk, but heck, I think he reminds me more of a taller pierce, and I would be thrilled if he came close to what pierce is."

I don't quite know what Pierce and Gallinari have in common besides being male human beings.

[Toro Rojo]

I dont get why people think thats its an "automatic" that if LeBron goes to NYK, he will lose for the rest of his life. Maybe he wont win next season if he is joined by Bosh @ MSG, but they will be a Playoffs team and will be able to build from there. When you have two stars, one of them being the best player in the league (IMO), you will be in contention for a long time and be able to add pieces down the road. Who wouldnt want to join those two in New York?
By no means Im saying he is going to NYK (I have him re-signing with the Cavs for 3 seasons), but people exagerate (IMO) what would mean for LeBron to join the Knicks.
I just cant see him in Miami.
For me, its a three horse race: Cleveland, Chicago & New York. Thats it.

The point isn't so much that the Knicks will never be a winning team, it is that they are a long way from a title contending team. Bosh and James can give them a 45-50 win team. LeBron has a 60 win team in Cleveland, so why would he move?

Whereas LeBron on the Bulls could equal 55-60 wins right away and more later on.

I think we can only say so very short run (one season). We dont know what could happen in LeBron' second season in NYK (roster wise, competition, etc).

There isnt such thing as a "lock" in the NBA to win a Championship, unless you want to take a huge paycut or force your way to the Lakers. LeBron would never do it.

And my second point is that if LeBron signs with New York, I wont label him as a guy that is all about the money, exposure, etc.

[BR0D1E86]

ROFLMAO. This made me wonder if it is even worth replying. Chandler is easily a better defender than Deng and Rose combined and Gallinari is an above average defender.

I’m sad that you got suspended. We need this kind of cockeyed optimism combined with a complete and total lack of objective basketball analysis all rolled into some sort of absurd and baseless arrogance. It warms the cockles of my heart.

Dear all trolls: King Kong ain't got **** on our je ne sais quoi.

You’re just excited that I said ‘cockles.’

[Gray Poster]

I think we can only say so very short run (one season). We dont know what could happen in LeBron' second season in NYK (roster wise, competition, etc).

There isnt such thing as a "lock" in the NBA to win a Championship, unless you want to take a huge paycut or force your way to the Lakers. LeBron would never do it.

And my second point is that if LeBron signs with New York, I wont label him as a guy that is all about the money, exposure, etc.

It would be hard to upgrade, but not impossible. The Knicks would be able to add a 10M player after 2010/11 because Eddy Curry's contract comes off the books. It will interesting to see what happens.

Their situation is different that the Bulls that last time there was a great FA class because they do no have Crumbs.

Basically the Bulls are better now and will be better in the future.

[blumeany]

I think the house shopping rumor is bunk.

It's way to early for him to be looking. I think he could just as easily have any number of people do some advanced scouting for him, narrow down the choices so that when signing day comes, he can come into town and make a final decision. If I were in Lebron's shoes, I would have this done in each of the cities that I am thinking of moving to. Not to mention the fact that he really doesn't need a place right away.

At most, this rumor is Lebron's people stoking the fire, which they will continue to do all the way up until (and possibly after) July 1. They are driving up his value around the league, making everyone show him love and just how much they'd like to have him.

[red222]

bron will be a cav book it

[GOBULLS]

bron will be a cav book it

Yea...after that beautiful "Please Stay LeBron" song, why would LBJ leave now?

[red222]

bron will be a cav book it

Yea...after that beautiful "Please Stay LeBron" song, why would LBJ leave now?

it was bad no doubt i am just super skeptical

[waffle]

yeah, if I am in Vegas I put my money on Clev.