Josh Smith for the 3rd?

[parson]

Hey, guys. The ATL Hawks are looking around, trying to find a new direction, so I'm trying to determine the value of our players.

Would y'all be interested in trading your 1st rounder for Smoove? I imagine we'd have to take all your bench players to make the deal work, but doesn't that have value for you, as well?

It'd have to be something like Yi Jianlian, Lee, Williams and Dooling to make the #s work.

Thanks in advance for being nice.

[Netaman]

Don't see Thorn making a move for Smith. I think the attitude problem is really the only big drawback. Also hurts that there are comparable players out there in FA $ wise who wouldn't require giving up the pick (David Lee). If we are talking about Yi, CDR, Lee, or whoever and the 27th pick then I definitely think the Nets would listen but not for the 3rd so we probably don't have a match.

Horford on the other hand...

[amk482]

Hey, guys. The ATL Hawks are looking around, trying to find a new direction, so I'm trying to determine the value of our players.

Would y'all be interested in trading your 1st rounder for Smoove? I imagine we'd have to take all your bench players to make the deal work, but doesn't that have value for you, as well?

It'd have to be something like Yi Jianlian, Lee, Williams and Dooling to make the #s work.

Thanks in advance for being nice.

The simple answer to your question is no. And when you say bench players, i think you mean Yi, Dooling and Humphries. To include Lee and Twill is just a slap in the face,

[vincecarter4pres]

It'd have to be something like Yi Jianlian, Lee, Williams and Dooling to make the #s work.

Smith doesn't have nearly this type of value. That's the type of package that would get you Gasol.

Overall, I would say no to a 3rd for Smith swap. I would gladly take Al Horford off your hands though, I think he's a great fit on this team, don't know that Atlanta does though.

[Hansel]

I wouldn't move #3 for Smith simply because we're not one move away from contention here. Also, Lee/TWill aren't fillers.

[parson]

Horford, yes, but Smoove, no. Got it.

Not sure we'd trade Horford, though. Only if all other avenues are considered first.

Thanks for the input ... and sorry about Lee and Williams.

[TheNetsFan]

I'm a big Smith fan, but Favors can be a more stable, bigger version of Smith, with potential to be even better. You'll have a difficult time getting a high pick for Smith, because this draft is very deep at the forward & center positions. Why deal with Smith's issues & higher salary, unless you're a win now team.

Utah could be a potential trade partner for you if they let Boozer walk.

[vincecarter4pres]

I don't see Smith as a Sloan guy...

[Preludepunk27]

I want Jerry Sloan to coach us. We would have won 25 games out of fair of his wrath last year lol.

This board has talked about Josh Smith in the last 2 offseasons. Though I think he's improving his leadership, I am not interested in him. We'll have to overpay in my opinion and I don't think he's the right guy to bring into our organization. We need a strong leader. He is worse than Devin in that department.

[demens]

Horford, yes, but Smoove, no. Got it.

Not sure we'd trade Horford, though. Only if all other avenues are considered first.

Thanks for the input ... and sorry about Lee and Williams.

No-no. I absolutely do your initial deal for Smith. The only mistake you made is to include Lee and Williams as throw ins which is why i think most people turned against the idea.

Yi, 3rd pick, 27th pick for Smith and the 24th pick.

[demens]

I want Jerry Sloan to coach us. We would have won 25 games out of fair of his wrath last year lol.

We would have won 25 games with Frank. With Sloan this team would have been in play-off contention. Maybe not, but 30 wins for sure.

[vincecarter4pres]

Horford, yes, but Smoove, no. Got it.

Not sure we'd trade Horford, though. Only if all other avenues are considered first.

Thanks for the input ... and sorry about Lee and Williams.

No-no. I absolutely do your initial deal for Smith. The only mistake you made is to include Lee and Williams as throw ins which is why i think most people turned against the idea.

Yi, 3rd pick, 27th pick for Smith and the 24th pick.

Even though the 27th pick isn't worth much, no reason to add value. Josh Smith isn't worth the 3rd pick in this draft, they should be adding incentive.
As for him in general, I don't know how I feel about him. I don't think I want him on this team at all. He's a whiny cry baby that sulks and borderline gives up when things aren't going his way, he's not a very high BBIQ guy, he's absolutely not a leader and he has no post game at all.

[vincecarter4pres]

I want Jerry Sloan to coach us. We would have won 25 games out of fair of his wrath last year lol.

We would have won 25 games with Frank. With Sloan this team would have been in play-off contention. Maybe not, but 30 wins for sure.

LOL, right.

[demens]

Even though the 27th pick isn't worth much, no reason to add value. Josh Smith isn't worth the 3rd pick in this draft, they should be adding incentive.
As for him in general, I don't know how I feel about him. I don't think I want him on this team at all. He's a whiny cry baby that sulks and borderline gives up when things aren't going his way, he's not a very high BBIQ guy, he's absolutely not a leader and he has no post game at all.

I like him, i think you guys are underrating him. I just think the 3rd pick has soooo much BUST potential that Smith is totally worth it.

I through in the pick as a swap 27th for 24th. I really dont want 24,27 and 31.

As for the 30 wins. Why laugh. We finished the season 9-30. Thats an 18 win team and we had absolutely no coaching. I think we could have bumped that up to 25 with Frank.

[vincecarter4pres]

I was really just laughing at playoff contention, although 30 wins is a big stretch as well.

I don't hate Smith, but I'm not sure why that is.
Yes he's very talented and athletic and has become a pretty elite defender, but the other negatives are so heavy and glaring and really have to do with personality type and mind set, mental state, that I just can't ever see him changing, at least not without a prime Jason Kidd level leader or a cast of leader stars and coach, like a current Boston.

[tundraknight]

I think you guys are better off keeping the pick and drafting Favors who will obviously be on a much cheaper rookie contract than Josh Smith.

And Favors has a higher upside imo. Smith is pretty muich in his prime now.

You fill the PF need. And either keep Yi as a back-up PF or trade him.

[vincecarter4pres]

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Not even a huge fan of this guy, but here you go...

[parson]

No-no. I absolutely do your initial deal for Smith. The only mistake you made is to include Lee and Williams as throw ins which is why i think most people turned against the idea.

Yi, 3rd pick, 27th pick for Smith and the 24th pick.

I was just trying to make the salaries work out. All we'd really want is the pick and help for our bench. We'd do your trade in a heartbeat. It'd allow us to draft a center, move Horford to PF and boost our bench. Our team would make sense.

When some of your contracts play out, you'll be able to trade for Smith without giving away much in the way of salaries because you'll be so far under the cap. But would you want to take on Smith's $10.8 million without sending some salary our way? I mean, it seems to me that you're trying to sign 2 FAs, if possible, right?

[demens]

No-no. I absolutely do your initial deal for Smith. The only mistake you made is to include Lee and Williams as throw ins which is why i think most people turned against the idea.

Yi, 3rd pick, 27th pick for Smith and the 24th pick.

I was just trying to make the salaries work out. All we'd really want is the pick and help for our bench. We'd do your trade in a heartbeat. It'd allow us to draft a center, move Horford to PF and boost our bench. Our team would make sense.

When some of your contracts play out, you'll be able to trade for Smith without giving away much in the way of salaries because you'll be so far under the cap. But would you want to take on Smith's $10.8 million without sending some salary our way? I mean, it seems to me that you're trying to sign 2 FAs, if possible, right?

We only have 7 guys singed and Yi is really the only unwanted one. 4 guys on rookie deals, 1 with a very good contract and 1 with an ok contract, so no need. 2 FAs, not any more.

[parson]

Okay, "Yi, 3rd pick, 27th pick for Smith and the 24th pick" would be fine with us.

We'd get to draft Cousins and knock about $7 million of salary off. That'd please us so much that we'd probably be willing to add more to please y'all. Forget the 27th for the 24th, we'd just send the 24th.