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Post#61 » by _BBIB_ » Sat May 22, 2010 8:09 pm

gswhoops wrote:For a guy whose biggest criticism has been a lack of motivation/drive, Cousins coming into the combine 30+ pounds overweight with almost 17% body fat has to be a HUGE red flag.

That combined with Favors' excellent measurements pretty much drops him to the #4 prospect on the boards.


He's a better fit outside of NJ anyways. And who says he's 30 pounds overweight? The guy is 6'11. Just because he's not built like a beanpole doesn't mean he's out of shape.
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Post#62 » by mid-post » Sat May 22, 2010 8:12 pm

Do people think Aminu's rebounding is going to translate in the NBA? He's not particularly big.
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Post#63 » by _BBIB_ » Sat May 22, 2010 8:27 pm

mid-post wrote:Do people think Aminu's rebounding is going to translate in the NBA? He's not particularly big.


I'm thinking Aminu needs to play the 3 to be effective in the NBA
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Post#64 » by mid-post » Sat May 22, 2010 8:34 pm

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mid-post wrote:Do people think Aminu's rebounding is going to translate in the NBA? He's not particularly big.


I'm thinking Aminu needs to play the 3 to be effective in the NBA

If that's the case, then I don't see the justification in drafting him that high (top 10). His wing skills aren't all that great and he's turnover prone.
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Post#65 » by _BBIB_ » Sat May 22, 2010 8:35 pm

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mid-post wrote:Do people think Aminu's rebounding is going to translate in the NBA? He's not particularly big.


I'm thinking Aminu needs to play the 3 to be effective in the NBA

If that's the case, then I don't see the justification in drafting him that high (top 10). His wing skills aren't all that great and he's turnover prone.


Wherever he plays the 3 or the 4 he's being taken solely on potential
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Post#66 » by gswhoops » Sat May 22, 2010 11:02 pm

_BBIB_ wrote:He's a better fit outside of NJ anyways. And who says he's 30 pounds overweight? The guy is 6'11. Just because he's not built like a beanpole doesn't mean he's out of shape.

Maybe 30 pounds is a bit of an exaggeration, but he's clearly overweight (given that he's pushing 300 pounds and has 16.4% body fat), which seems to validate the claims that he has a poor work ethic. I don't think he's ever going to be a beanpole (which is a good thing) but he should ideally be somewhere around 260-270 and he's way past that.
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Post#67 » by carrottop12 » Sun May 23, 2010 12:10 am

Nice measurements for Whiteside. He'll end up in the top 10 before draft night.
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Post#68 » by Jazzfan12 » Sun May 23, 2010 12:42 am

Bat wrote:Nice measurements for Whiteside. He'll end up in the top 10 before draft night.



How?
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Post#69 » by Jazzfan12 » Sun May 23, 2010 1:38 am

Whiteside's With Shoes measurements would have been higher but he showed up to the combine wearing flip-flops :lol:
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Post#70 » by richboy » Sun May 23, 2010 5:03 am

Basileus777 wrote:The problem is that neither Lopez nor Cousins are going to be capable of defending NBA 4s out on the perimeter. And both Lopez and Cousins need to work out of the post, they don't complement each other on offense. That frontcourt would be too slow defensively and have poor spacing on offense. Favors makes a lot more sense next to Brook.


Lopez has a good jump shot so I would disagree with you on offense. Really you could make the case Lopez has the athleticism, mobility,, and shot to be considered the 4.

Defensively I might agree but I've also seen the Lakers play great perimeter defense with Gasol and Bynum.
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Post#71 » by _BBIB_ » Sun May 23, 2010 5:41 am

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Bat wrote:Nice measurements for Whiteside. He'll end up in the top 10 before draft night.



How?


Upside, upside, upside. See Saer Sene except far more proven than Sene.
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Post#72 » by Cammo101 » Sun May 23, 2010 6:33 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:
Bat wrote:Nice measurements for Whiteside. He'll end up in the top 10 before draft night.



How?


The same way Robert Swift, Saer Sene, and a boat load of other upside bigs did.
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Post#73 » by Jazzfan12 » Sun May 23, 2010 1:00 pm

But none of the teams picking in the top ten are looking for upside bigs and those guys weren't crazy.
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Post#74 » by HtownPA » Sun May 23, 2010 2:01 pm

_BBIB_ wrote:
gswhoops wrote:For a guy whose biggest criticism has been a lack of motivation/drive, Cousins coming into the combine 30+ pounds overweight with almost 17% body fat has to be a HUGE red flag.

That combined with Favors' excellent measurements pretty much drops him to the #4 prospect on the boards.


He's a better fit outside of NJ anyways. And who says he's 30 pounds overweight? The guy is 6'11. Just because he's not built like a beanpole doesn't mean he's out of shape.


He was 270 lbs while playing, and gained 22 lbs since he stopped. It's 22 lbs instead of 30 lbs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/pr ... erId=45882
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Post#75 » by HtownPA » Sun May 23, 2010 2:06 pm

mid-post wrote:Do people think Aminu's rebounding is going to translate in the NBA? He's not particularly big.


He' has the height of a tweener, but the wingspan and reach of a 6'10 PF. His rebounding could be comparable to Josh Smith. Smith has a slightly shorter wingspan and reach, but is more athletic.
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Post#76 » by HtownPA » Sun May 23, 2010 2:12 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Jazzfan12 wrote:
Bat wrote:Nice measurements for Whiteside. He'll end up in the top 10 before draft night.



How?


The same way Robert Swift, Saer Sene, and a boat load of other upside bigs did.



Robert Swift was not drafted in the top 10.
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Post#77 » by DizzyDai » Sun May 23, 2010 4:20 pm

Ha. I love the Ibaka vs. Favors convo earlier in this thread. I think Ibaka's ceiling is much higher than Favors, but then again I'm probably biased.

Here are my thoughts in regards to measurements.

Orton was a little smaller than I thought.

Aldrich only weighed 236 (I thought he was at least 250) and wore two inch shoes.

Not really shocking, but Lawal's measurements aren't going to help his draft stock.

I have a feeling Sherron Collins (217 lb.) could knock over a few big men in the post. Especially Brackins (229 lb.), Whiteside (227 lb.), and Sanders (222 lb.).

Vasquez is pretty huge, especially if he can still contribute at the 1.

I was shocked at Pittman's measurements, hopefully he can slim down.
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Re: 2010 NBA Draft Measurements 

Post#78 » by NewWolvesOrder » Sun May 23, 2010 4:24 pm

HtownPA wrote:
_BBIB_ wrote:
gswhoops wrote:For a guy whose biggest criticism has been a lack of motivation/drive, Cousins coming into the combine 30+ pounds overweight with almost 17% body fat has to be a HUGE red flag.

That combined with Favors' excellent measurements pretty much drops him to the #4 prospect on the boards.


He's a better fit outside of NJ anyways. And who says he's 30 pounds overweight? The guy is 6'11. Just because he's not built like a beanpole doesn't mean he's out of shape.


He was 270 lbs while playing, and gained 22 lbs since he stopped. It's 22 lbs instead of 30 lbs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/pr ... erId=45882


292 number is real. it was taken from an official draft combine where all players were weighed on the same day. 270 number can be a total fiction for all I care, those college numbers are unreliable, Cousins could be playing at 300+ during the season. At the interview people said that he looked like he had dropped weight.
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Post#79 » by Draft Master J » Sun May 23, 2010 4:37 pm

Any possibility Cole Aldrich is a PF in the NBA?

He's 6'10", 236 lb. -- that's PF size.
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Post#80 » by bigballa3jj » Sun May 23, 2010 4:48 pm

Draft Master J wrote:Any possibility Cole Aldrich is a PF in the NBA?

He's 6'10", 236 lb. -- that's PF size.



he doesn't have any PF skills....he's a center 100% of the time

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