The Official Rebuildation Thread

[Jersey Generals]

What else do you guys think we would have to add on here?

Your left kidney.





Real answer: a lot.

[vincecarter4pres]

So Jersey Generals, you see the guy I was targeting at the 10th pick?

[Jersey Generals]

Paul George, eh? I like him, but you like him at the ten spot? I know he's jumping up the boards, I never imagined he would jump this far, though. I actually figured it was him or Xavier Henry.

[vincecarter4pres]

I don't especially like Henry. I don't dislike him, but I think he's a bad pick if he goes that early.
Paul George is going to be a baller. Watch for this kid. He's the real deal, he's young and he's only improving. he went 12th in the last mock on there so I had to move up to get him and the dude running the Hornets said he was going to take him at 11 after I made the pick.

[SpeedyG]

I think at this point, Lee is a keeper unless we can get another shooter. This is a bad shooting team as it is already, and losing Lee would only make it worse.

[Jersey Generals]

I don't especially like Henry. I don't dislike him, but I think he's a bad pick if he goes that early.
Paul George is going to be a baller. Watch for this kid. He's the real deal, he's young and he's only improving. he went 12th in the last mock on there so I had to move up to get him and the dude running the Hornets said he was going to take him at 11 after I made the pick.

I think Henry's going to be Ray Allen-light. Maybe not have the career of Allen, but a similar game.

[vincecarter4pres]

Think Martell Webster...

[Jersey Generals]

Think Martell Webster...

Disagree. Henry's just flat out better than Webster. Yes, yes, I understand what you're going for, they have similar physiques and shots, but...Henry's just flat out better. Now, I don't think Henry's going to be an allstar, nor would I pick him at 10 (I'm thinking more 12-14), but I can see the potential to be a dead eye shooter with decent defense. If only he was a little more athletic, he would be a much, much better prospect.

I think he'd be perfect for a team I'm thinking about gming in the Nets Mock GM thread, that no one seems to want to go into and play.

[vincecarter4pres]

How and why do you think he is flatout better then Webster?

[Jersey Generals]

Well, lets look at their similarities: they're about the same height, weight, and have nearly the same wingspan (Henry's is bigger, but he is like an half an inch shorter). They both have suspect handles, and aren't great playmakers, though it seems that Henry has a greater passing ability than Webster and he is very good at driving and dumping off to the open man. Henry also has a sweeter stroke from outside and from midrange than Webster. The difference between the two is really just one: Henry is a little bit better athletically, which will allow him to become a better defender than Webster. They're both role players, though, don't think I'm saying anything differnt.

All in all, he's just more advanced than Webster. Don't get me wrong, I see the comparison, but I also see the comparison with Ray Allen (to an extent). When I watch Henry, I can't help but think we're looking at the next, I don't know, Dan Majerle? He'd be great for a team based around a primary ball handler, like Lebron or Rose, where they can kick it out and he can knock downt he shot. Allstar? No. Superstar? Deff. not. A good role player? Yes, and that isn't such a bad thing when picking in the 12-16 range.

[vincecarter4pres]

Funny that you mentioned Dan Majerle, are you trying to butter me up?
I've been making that comparison since November on the Draft Board.
A mix of Dan Majerle and Michael Finley, playing style of course.
I almost equally like the Martell Webster comparison though.

[Jersey Generals]

Funny that you mentioned Dan Majerle, are you trying to butter me up?
I've been making that comparison since November on the Draft Board.
A mix of Dan Majerle and Michael Finley, playing style of course.
I almost equally like the Martell Webster comparison though.

You've really mentioned Dan Majerle? You serious? Great minds, Vince, great minds.

[vincecarter4pres]

Word is born.

[vincecarter4pres]

Just one of the many threads I've made this comparison in:

Henry is a spot up shooter with an NBA body and the ability to get out and finish, absorb some contact. Little ball handling and playmaking ability. Can pass a little, but that's about it.
Maybe like Dan Majerle even.

The player he most reminds me of is Finley crossed with Majerle.

I think he can be a Glen Rice type of player in the nba.

A prime Glen Rice was a beast. I was just thinking the other day, "When are we going to see another Glen Rice?".
I don't see it.
I like him a lot though. Still see a Finley Lite mixed with Majerle.
Great shot, NBA body, great athleticism, good BBIQ, solid passer but not a playmaker, hard finisher, shoddy handles, solid defense...

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=965144&start=30

[Jersey Generals]

Haha, nice.

When did you write that "can pass a little," comment? I'm betting it was in the beginning of the NCAA season, right? He grew and grew as a passer throughout the season. He's still not great, but he can pass now more than a little.


Edit: Saw that you said solid passer in one of the later comments. Finley with Majerle, yeah, that's a pretty good idea of what he is.

[vincecarter4pres]

I think I'm going to get blasted for this one, but... oh what the hell...

LAC sends:
Baron Davis
8th overall pick

NJ sends:
Devin Harris
Yi Jianlian
Courtney Lee

[Jersey Generals]

How long is Davis' contract?

[vincecarter4pres]

It's three more seasons, including 2010-11.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... ippers.jsp

[Preludepunk27]

Baron's contract runs through the end of the 12/13 season if he opts in to that last year.

It's honestly a thought though. We don't give up anything of value really to tell you the truth and pick up the #8 pick. Would the clippers do it though? Would we turn into a team like the Marbury-led Nets. Which FA would want to come play with Baron. I don't think Lebron or Wade even though that'd be a fun team. I think Amare would be most likely our guy at that point.

I'm not completely sold on this trade idea, but I wouldn't say I'm against it either. Do we feel Twill will be a strong enough shooter by then to let him start at the 2 spot or do we honestly think adding Baron would allow us to nab Lebron or Wade?

[Rockice_8]

I love all the trade talk but, I think our plans are set in stone now. To be honest if it goes differently I would be shocked. I think Favors is the obvious choice at #3 and Melo is going to be the target in 2011. Sure we will do whatever we can to land Lebron this season but it's a long shot.

We go ahead and sign a few good veterans to fill out the bench while keeping the plan in place for Melo in 2011. Grab and center and a scoring guard in the draft with the #27 and #31. Run next year with Harris, Lee, T-Will, Favors, Lopez and other picks and let them develop.

That team will be a fast exciting team to watch next season but will most likely not make the playoffs resulting in most likely a top 10 pick again where we could try for our PG of the future again (there are what looks to be a few good ones coming out next year) or an upgrade at SG (like this kid Burks).

I think thats our best coarse of action and we could see ourselves running a team like

Harris/?
Burks/Lee
Melo/T-Will
Favors/?
Lopez/?