Chat with Chad Ford: Bynum/Bosh trade a good possiblity.

[dockingsched]

The only way the Lakers do this is if they are certain Bynum is seriously damaged goods. It really doesn't make sense for them to give this guy up otherwise.

The only reason he's available is because LA is tired of losing Bynum in the playoffs...they're just trying to secure their title runs.

agreed, but another big issue is bynum's agent, david lee. the lakers front office and lee don't exactly see eye to eye. it started with lee's tendency to go public with everything when they were discussing an extension, and it continued when david lee went public with ariza's negotations. lakers don't like david lee.

[ballislife]

I love this deal compared to the others speculated out there for sure, unless we can get Cousins from NJ in a sign and trade deal later on. But Bynum has the drive to become an all star in the NBA... if he can get healthy the sky is the limit for him and he'd probably help this team in more ways than Bosh could. Bynum would probably love to have a bigger role on another team, and he'd be closer to his home town of NJ. We need to find a way to get rid of Turk and Calderon and acquire another young piece on the wing, or at the PG position. If we can get Darren Collison here some how, this will be a very good team 2 years from now.

[Courtside]

It will be interesting to see how teams try and stop a Kobe/Bosh/Gasol offense

Keep it out of Pau and Kobe's hands, and in Bosh's, basically.

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

The only way the Lakers do this is if they are certain Bynum is seriously damaged goods. It really doesn't make sense for them to give this guy up otherwise.

The only reason he's available is because LA is tired of losing Bynum in the playoffs...they're just trying to secure their title runs.

agreed, but another big issue is bynum's agent, david lee. the lakers front office and lee don't exactly see eye to eye. it started with lee's tendency to go public with everything when they were discussing an extension, and it continued when david lee went public with ariza's negotations. lakers don't like david lee.

Maybe that's the David Lee we hear the Raptors like so much.

[Jose_Matador]

It will be interesting to see how teams try and stop a Kobe/Bosh/Gasol offense

Keep it out of Pau and Kobe's hands, and in Bosh's, basically.

ha !

[Neutral 123]

The only way the Lakers do this is if they are certain Bynum is seriously damaged goods. It really doesn't make sense for them to give this guy up otherwise.

The only reason he's available is because LA is tired of losing Bynum in the playoffs...they're just trying to secure their title runs.

Well unless you have serious doubts about Bynum's health or attitude, I don't see how this trade makes them better. One of their biggest strengths is their size and length inside. They lose that quite a bit with Bosh, plus there will be even more ball sharing issues. They are a title contender as is, so I'm not sure that Bosh makes them better at all.

[Spragga]

So if this deal happens does this mean that Jose stays? Bynum will need someone to feed him the ball. He will be able to cover Joses man after he blows by him better than Bargs

[Neutral 123]

The only way the Lakers do this is if they are certain Bynum is seriously damaged goods. It really doesn't make sense for them to give this guy up otherwise.

The only reason he's available is because LA is tired of losing Bynum in the playoffs...they're just trying to secure their title runs.

agreed, but another big issue is bynum's agent, david lee. the lakers front office and lee don't exactly see eye to eye. it started with lee's tendency to go public with everything when they were discussing an extension, and it continued when david lee went public with ariza's negotations. lakers don't like david lee.

Maybe, but they have him locked up for another 3 years, so I'm surprised it would be a big enough issue that they would want to move him because of his agent.

[Jose_Matador]

The only way the Lakers do this is if they are certain Bynum is seriously damaged goods. It really doesn't make sense for them to give this guy up otherwise.

The only reason he's available is because LA is tired of losing Bynum in the playoffs...they're just trying to secure their title runs.

Well unless you have serious doubts about Bynum's health or attitude, I don't see how this trade makes them better. One of their biggest strengths is their size and length inside. They lose that quite a bit with Bosh, plus there will be even more ball sharing issues. They are a title contender as is, so I'm not sure that Bosh makes them better at all.

I don't give a ******* about LA's intentions lol...if they make this move, then they're idiots IMO. I just like it for us ! I care about the Raptors well being, not LA's.

[HighOctane]

15 and 9 next to Gasol is more than a serviceable center, he would start on any team not named Orlando. You can go ahead and name off all the teams in the league, he'll start for EVERY one of them. (not ORL)

Remember he's playing on arguably the best team in the league in LA, and that would help his numbers quite a bit.

The one thing I like about him is that he has swag and is very determined to get better. Injuries aside, is he the right talent for this team? He's been in the league for 5 years now, how much better will he get?

As a defensive specialist I have no problem taking him at the C. It's just the fact that Bargs is now our permanent PF.

[power works]

If CF is accurate this time....and I really hope he is.....what's interesting is that there was a deal in place as early as the all-star break for Bynum/Bosh, meaning BC probably already knew by then there was little chance Bosh will be back. WOW!

This kind of explains the noticeable drop-off in RuPaul's play, almost like.....I just want to put on a show during the all-star game and then call it a season.

Wow, never thought about that... You're right. Anyone think we would've been better served ditching Bosh at the deadline for a better deal, or will it be worth the wait?

What's particularly disturbing is that right around this time the team was at an all-season high, six games above .500 and holding on securely to the 5th spot.

And it almost seemed like Bosh was trying to sell TO during player interviews at the all-star game. Unreal.

I think in basketball-speak this refers to a misdirection play.

Even Stephen A doesn't seem as stupid now.

[Jose_Matador]

15 and 9 next to Gasol is more than a serviceable center, he would start on any team not named Orlando. You can go ahead and name off all the teams in the league, he'll start for EVERY one of them. (not ORL)

Remember he's playing on arguably the best team in the league in LA, and that would help his numbers quite a bit.

The one thing I like about him is that he has swag and is very determined to get better. Injuries aside, is he the right talent for this team? He's been in the league for 5 years now, how much better will he get?

As a defensive specialist I have no problem taking him at the C. It's just the fact that Bargs is now our permanent PF.

Playing on the best team in the league would actually make your numbers slightly worse actually...but yeah.

[Ripp]

I don't see how a Gasol/Bosh frontcourt will work. Both Gasol and Bosh are pf's and have a similar offensive game. Bynum seems like a better fit for that Lakers team.

Pretty much. Plus the way things are now, if you lose any one of LO, Bynum, or Pau for some time, you are fine. You have so much flexibility...remember all those games Pau missed at the beginning of the season. Lakers kept chugging w/o losing a beat. Pau is not the most durable of guys. Neither is Bosh. If Pau goes down, then one of LO or Bosh is playing minutes at C...a pretty undesirable outcome.

But beyond all of that, there are political reasons for Bynum not to be traded. It appears that Bynum is Jim Buss's golden child:

Lastly, Jim Buss, Jerry Buss’ son, does not want to give up Bynum. ‘Drew was his personal project, his first draft pick and has been very stubborn when talks of moving him have come up. Jim is the future of the Lakers organization, or better or for worse, and when it comes down to it, I have a tough time seeing him giving up Bynum right now. Not when he’s seen flashes of Bynum’s potential.

(From Raptors Republic: http://raptorsrepublic.com/2010/05/25/b ... es-lakers/)


I can see Phil and Kobe being in favor of making the deal, but convincing JIm Buss to part with his golden child might be harder.

[tke_mark]

I would also like any deal chicago can put together. Deng or Noah would be pretty good.

I don't like houston's draft picks and Jordan (who) Hill

[Neutral 123]

The only way the Lakers do this is if they are certain Bynum is seriously damaged goods. It really doesn't make sense for them to give this guy up otherwise.

They're getting Bosh. Reason enough for a older team. They need to maximize their chances while their window's still open. And yeah, it doesn't help that Bynum's injury prone and Phil's probably tired of him.

But compared to the other deals out there for Bosh, this is still the one I prefer.

This would probably be the best deal talent wise if Bynum isn't damaged goods. Even with risk involved, he's probably the best choice. I'm just really questioning why the Lakers would do it. They become quite a bit smaller and softer inside. Being intimidating around the basket is something I really haven't seen out of Bosh, or Gasol for that matter, but with Bynum and Gasol, that is a lot of size to finish over, I see that changing if they get Bosh. Plus how much ball is there to go around? You have Kobe, Gasol who manhy are calling the best big man in the game. So where does that leave Bosh as an offensive option? If Bynum is healthy, he is by far the better fit to me.

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Maybe, but they have him locked up for another 3 years, so I'm surprised it would be a big enough issue that they would want to move him because of his agent.

the 3rd yr is a team option, so contract whispers could start as soon as the start of the 2nd season. just mentioning it as a possible motive. everyone on the lakers fanbase hates bynum's agent, and the front office has made several comments about their displeasure regarding his tactics.

15 and 9 next to Gasol is more than a serviceable center, he would start on any team not named Orlando. You can go ahead and name off all the teams in the league, he'll start for EVERY one of them. (not ORL)

Remember he's playing on arguably the best team in the league in LA, and that would help his numbers quite a bit.

The one thing I like about him is that he has swag and is very determined to get better. Injuries aside, is he the right talent for this team? He's been in the league for 5 years now, how much better will he get?

As a defensive specialist I have no problem taking him at the C. It's just the fact that Bargs is now our permanent PF.

playing next to gasol absolutely destroys bynum's per game numbers. he's 20/10 when gasol doesn't play. his efficiency most certainly gets a boost, but raw per game numbers, he'd easily be 19/10 as the featured big man and not playing next to gasol/odom.

[Raps in 4]

Yeah he's young but I'm not sold on Bynum at all. The only good thing is that he is a serviceable center.

Watching him in the playoffs he's just been out of his element.

15 and 9 next to Gasol is more than a serviceable center, he would start on any team not named Orlando. You can go ahead and name off all the teams in the league, he'll start for EVERY one of them. (not ORL)

I would have a hard time starting him in Chicago, NJ, Milwuakee, Memphis, or Atlanta.

[Neutral 123]

I don't give a ******* about LA's intentions lol...if they make this move, then they're idiots IMO. I just like it for us ! I care about the Raptors well being, not LA's.

I care only because I don't think they are idiots, and if they were willing to give up Bynum, I'd really have to question why, because it wouldn't make much sense. If Bynum is too injury prone to play basketball then that's a lot of money, and worse, no draft picks, which may have been acquired by doing a deal with another team.

Frankly, I don't see it happening though. Teams just don't give up on 22 year old centers, especially now, and especially one that has shown he can play.

[Jose_Matador]

Yeah he's young but I'm not sold on Bynum at all. The only good thing is that he is a serviceable center.

Watching him in the playoffs he's just been out of his element.

15 and 9 next to Gasol is more than a serviceable center, he would start on any team not named Orlando. You can go ahead and name off all the teams in the league, he'll start for EVERY one of them. (not ORL)

I would have a hard time starting him in Chicago, NJ, Milwuakee, Memphis, or Atlanta.

I'd start him in Chicago, NJ is debatable, Milwaukee is detable, he'd start in Memphis and ATL. It all depends on Bynum's health.

[Neutral 123]

Yeah he's young but I'm not sold on Bynum at all. The only good thing is that he is a serviceable center.

Watching him in the playoffs he's just been out of his element.

15 and 9 next to Gasol is more than a serviceable center, he would start on any team not named Orlando. You can go ahead and name off all the teams in the league, he'll start for EVERY one of them. (not ORL)

I would have a hard time starting him in Chicago, NJ, Milwuakee, Memphis, or Atlanta.

He'd start in Atlanta and Chicago.