You guys should trade Antawn Jamison.

[Gilfanatic123]

I'm just saying this as a Wizards fan. But I have just been thinking about this season. I think that the veterans on our team- the big 3 were really holding the team down. Caron Butler was inconsistent throughout the season. Antawn Jamison... well he played a part of it too. I'm just warning you, but, I watched the Wizards earlier this season and it seemed like before we used to be awful on defense. Brendan Haywood is supposed to be the center, but, the power forward (Antawn Jamison) is supposed to keep people out of the paint.

Well... I was just kind of more of a casual fan at the time... but now that I think about it- what was going on shouldn't have happened. We just allowed anyone to go inside the paint whenever they felt like and we kept on allowing teams to just walk in on us. Our defense wasn't rotating properly. And when Antawn Jamison left the team looked like they were able to develop. Blatche can post up bigger players. McGee can block a lot of shots. It's just a lot better.

I think Antawn Jamison was holding us back before. And I think it was time we had to let him go. I'm just warning you about him... because I feel that he was a contributor to the problems we've had over the past 2 seasons as well. Maybe it might bring the Wizards curse with you. So... I'm just saying that as a fan, passing on the info to the other fans.

Also, I watched the Celtics-Cavs series a bit and it looked like Jamison was still having his defensive problems. He can't guard someone like KG. Antawn Jamison will hurt you guys in the playoffs.

[heathmalc]

Antawn is past his prime...all Cavalier fans know this. Antawn would be better off the bench also... Most fans agree with this. That being said, if the Cavaliers were offered a decent deal on Antawn, there is a high probability that we'd move him, as long as one of two things happened in the trade: #1) The trade upgraded the position dramatically, with a younger player. #2) The trade brought a decent back-up with a short-term contract (expiring?) & possibly a lower salary 10-11Million.

[JonFromVA]

You can work with players like Jamison, Shaq, and Mo Williams ... you just have to protect them. You can't have them all on the floor at the same time.

As for the Wizards, they just didn't buy in to defensive principles. Whenever the team was struggling the answer was always they needed to shoot more, score more - not stop the other team.

Jamison has been a defensive liability for a long long time ...

[Benedict_Boozer]

Jamison did alright for us. He was a pretty consistent scorer, rebounder, played with effort. And he did it without having any real sets in the offense or consistent touches.

He is a solid piece, just not the anchor of a team or true 2nd option as he ages.

[tidho]

Jamison gets a bad wrap.
The Cavalier offense did absolutely nothing for him, he'll be much more productive in another system. As for defense, he did get abused by KG but he should never have been on him anyway. Put him on Pierce with Hickson and Andy up front and we win that series.

[TheOUTLAW]

To be honest, you can't call a guy your second option if you never run anything for him. That's what you do with a 4th or 5th option.

[old skool]

Jamison is younger than Garnett or Ray Allen. He has played less than 32,000 regular season minutes over his career. Garnett is over 41,000. Allen over 37,000.

Jamison is not worth much on the trade market. He is owed $28-million over the next two seasons. He is still productive, but starting to decline. It does not make sense to trade him unless the goal is to save money. There is no way to upgrade his on court production at that salary.

I would hesitate to back up the bus too fast. I would wait until Lebron makes up his Lemind. The Cavs did not get blown out by the Celtics. They were in decent shape after game four - and then seemed to lose interest. The series was competitive. And now the Celtics look like world beaters. That could easily be the Cavs right now - getting ready to move onto the Finals.

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[mg]

Jamison's ideal role might be as a 6th man. He can still play well especially next to a defensive big like Varejao.

Who knows what will happen this offseason but Hickson deserves a chance to start especially if he keeps improving his game this summer.

[stycool24]

Jamison is still pretty decent. Cavs never ran plays for him, thats why he wasn't that effective. He still did a solid job scoring and rebounding. If the coach used the rotations effectively, we would have won the series.

I don't understand why Mike Brown was playing Shaq and Jamison a lot of mins in that series. They don't really match up with the Celtics that well. With all that depth, he could have played Z, Hickson, Verajoe more against the Cetics and play Shaq , Jamison more against Orlando and Lakers.

But if there is a good deal for him, of course Cavs are gonna trade him, but not many teams would want him, unless Cavs are taking back a bigger contract.

[Baseline Runner]

I wasn't a fan of the Jamison trade to begin with, but everyone seems to get the blame except Lebron. For years it was Lebron needed a PG, Lebron needed shooters, Lebron needed a big man, Lebron needed a second option, Lebron needed a stretch four. The Cavs went and got every tool Lebron needed, and while they might not be perfect fits, Lebron deserves atleast some of the blame for lack of success. I mean when is the last time Lebron set a screen for example? I can't remember. He'd be a great pick and roll combo with Mo. These are just simple basketball 101 things that Lebron never seemed to learn and the entire team offensive flow has always suffered from it from day one Lebron stepped on the court.

[God Squad]

I wasn't a fan of the Jamison trade to begin with, but everyone seems to get the blame except Lebron. For years it was Lebron needed a PG, Lebron needed shooters, Lebron needed a big man, Lebron needed a second option, Lebron needed a stretch four. The Cavs went and got every tool Lebron needed, and while they might not be perfect fits, Lebron deserves atleast some of the blame for lack of success. I mean when is the last time Lebron set a screen for example? I can't remember. He'd be a great pick and roll combo with Mo. These are just simple basketball 101 things that Lebron never seemed to learn and the entire team offensive flow has always suffered from it from day one Lebron stepped on the court.

Well put bud. I agree.

[TheOUTLAW]

To argue that LeBron hasn't gotten blame is to be totally oblivious to everything that has gone on since the playoffs. LeBron has gotten a ton of blame. Fact is, most Cavs fans are smart enough to realize that blaming him does nothing for the Cavs in the future. We want solutions not people whining about who was to blame. Fact is though, Cavs do still need a PG since in effect LeBron is running that position. I've never been a fan of stretch 4's I like my bigs to stay inside grab rebounds and play defense. To blame the Cavs offense on LeBron is just trolling though.

[Baseline Runner]

I said part of the blame. Atleast on the general board I almost never see Lebron get any blame, its always either Mike Brown or about how he needs more help.

[Baseline Runner]

I should address all of the criticism of Lebron during the Boston series. None of that criticism was directed towards Lebron's game. No one was saying maybe the Cavs couldn't beat the Celtics because Lebron wasn't a good enough basketball player, it was because of a variety of other excuses ranging from Mike Brown, to his teammates, to bizarre rumors, to the elbow.

Everyone shares some of the blame but Lebron is a big reason why we haven't won in the last five years, not just this Boston series. As I stated in another thread, Lebron's offensive game is too predictable and easily shut down by a good defensive team, whether it be Boston this year, Boston in 2008, or San Antonio in 2007. Guys like Jordan, Bird and Olajuwon might have had off games at times, but they were never shut down like that for an entire series. They would impose their will on teams and find a way to score. Lebron just hasn't reached that level of dominance and his offensive game isn't diverse enough to exploit whatever the defense throws at him.

To suggest I'm trolling by simply criticizing Lebron is unbecoming of our usual gracious moderator. This a perfect example of a problem that extends all the way deep into the Cavs organizaton. Lebron never receives negative feedback which might encourage him to improve on the weaker aspects of his game.

[blueandgold]

Pacer fan here:

Trade proposal for you to move Jamison.

Pacers send-
Murphy
TJ Ford

Cavs send-
Jamison
Hickson
DGibson

You get the PF you want (double/double); great back up in Ford vs. Gibson and expirings.

[Benedict_Boozer]

Pacer fan here:

Trade proposal for you to move Jamison.

Pacers send-
Murphy
TJ Ford

Cavs send-
Jamison
Hickson
DGibson

You get the PF you want (double/double); great back up in Ford vs. Gibson and expirings.

This trade is awful for CLE.

[Grime_Wizard]

If we can get a better PF then go for it, but the main reason Twan under-performed was becuase mike brown didnt properly use him

[TheOUTLAW]

Pacer fan here:

Trade proposal for you to move Jamison.

Pacers send-
Murphy
TJ Ford

Cavs send-
Jamison
Hickson
DGibson

You get the PF you want (double/double); great back up in Ford vs. Gibson and expirings.

This trade is awful for CLE.

Eeck, that is awful

[Rise Against]

Pacer fan here:

Trade proposal for you to move Jamison.

Pacers send-
Murphy
TJ Ford

Cavs send-
Jamison
Hickson
DGibson

You get the PF you want (double/double); great back up in Ford vs. Gibson and expirings.

This trade is awful for CLE.

Eeck, that is awful

Saying that it is awful is just an understatement.

[RRT]

Lmao we could of had Murphy instead of Jamison (no comparison, we made the right trade). If gibson got tj ford minutes, he would average same if not better numbers. That trade is just bad and Cleveland would NEVER do it.