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Parker to Indiana "Floating around"

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Parker to Indiana "Floating around" 

Post#1 » by Grang33r » Tue Jun 1, 2010 8:54 pm

From Chad Ford's latest ESPN.com chat.

Chad Ford (1:28 PM)


I believe they're open to it if they can get two young assets in return. I think San Antonio understands that if they don't start rebuilding now, it could be two late. If they could get two high picks or one high pick and a young player, I think they'd do it. One scenario floating out there is Parker for No. 10, Troy Murphy (in the last year of his contract) and Brandon Rush.


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I think some would see it as over paying but i'm not high on Rush at all. Not sure how we will get any kind of production from anyone else to win some games, i don't think Parker and Granger would be enough. Also, only way i would do this is if Parker re-signs long term. We can't trade a 10th and Rush for a rental.
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Post#2 » by fj20 » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:06 pm

i wouldnt see why san antonio wouldnt do this...they are paying george hill basically nothing for what his value is...they get murph who can come in for duncan or move around between 4 n 5...and rush a scorer...i would like to see us get #20 back though..still atleast have a first rounder...
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Post#3 » by pacersrule08 » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:17 pm

yea if that 20th pick was in there there we should not hesitate to do the deal

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Post#4 » by mizzoupacers » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:27 pm

I guess if San Antonio is convinced that Hill can take over for Parker, that's their incentive to trade Parker. But I have to wonder if they could get more than this. Seems like a trade that is clearly in Indiana's favor--the Pacers basically get a dollar for three quarters here. I mean, Parker is one of the better pgs in the league, and he's only 28, whereas Indiana is not giving up anyone all that valuable.

This would be a great trade for the Pacers if they can pull it off. Even if they can't re-sign Parker, Parker would have more trade value than Murphy/Rush. Really the only risk you're taking is to forgo the chance of getting lucky with the tenth pick.
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Post#5 » by fj20 » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:44 pm

does bird have it up his sleeves to get it done...not only help improve our team...but i would def buy season tickets if we had parker as our pg...not ford...well either way im buying but it would put me over the edge in it
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Post#6 » by greenway84 » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:44 pm

Wouldn't it make more sense to just be patient and sign Tony next summer. why give up trading pieces when we could just be patient. hell we waited this long.
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Post#7 » by Starkiller » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:49 pm

greenway84 wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to just be patient and sign Tony next summer. why give up trading pieces when we could just be patient. hell we waited this long.


This.

I also don't like the idea of trading our #10 for him either.
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Post#8 » by Dunthreevy » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:55 pm

Did someone refer to Rush as a "scorer"? Since when does 8 points per game over your first 2 seasons in the league (playing significant minutes) get someone labeled as a "scorer"?
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Post#9 » by ardthomp » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:56 pm

Starkiller wrote:
greenway84 wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to just be patient and sign Tony next summer. why give up trading pieces when we could just be patient. hell we waited this long.


This.

I also don't like the idea of trading our #10 for him either.


I also don't want to give up the 10, but if we got the 20, that would push this deal over the top for me. Murphy would take Matt Bonner's place in the rotation for the Spurs and Rush would take over for Roger Mason. I don't see what San Antonio is going to gain from this though, unless they have a high value for Rush and see a big they want at 10, or they take Bledsoe.
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Post#10 » by Dunthreevy » Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:58 pm

greenway84 wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to just be patient and sign Tony next summer. why give up trading pieces when we could just be patient. hell we waited this long.


Because most likely Tony Parker wouldn't willingly come here as a free agent. But if we can get him in a trade, then we could either extend him or use him as trade bait.
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Post#11 » by mizzoupacers » Tue Jun 1, 2010 10:00 pm

Dunthreevy wrote:Because most likely Tony Parker wouldn't willingly come here as a free agent. But if we can get him in a trade, then we could either extend him or use him as trade bait.


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Post#12 » by God Squad » Wed Jun 2, 2010 2:40 am

I read this earlier today from chad ford. I say pacers do this trade and don't look back.
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Post#13 » by basketballwacko2 » Wed Jun 2, 2010 2:56 am

Dunthreevy wrote:
greenway84 wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to just be patient and sign Tony next summer. why give up trading pieces when we could just be patient. hell we waited this long.


Because most likely Tony Parker wouldn't willingly come here as a free agent. But if we can get him in a trade, then we could either extend him or use him as trade bait.



Parker is a good player but would never resign, we'd be throwing Rush and the Pick away. I'd rather trade Muphy for Hedo and the #13 if that could be done. We could flip Hedo to the Blazers later on.
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Post#14 » by writerman » Wed Jun 2, 2010 4:03 am

Starkiller wrote:
greenway84 wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to just be patient and sign Tony next summer. why give up trading pieces when we could just be patient. hell we waited this long.


This.

I also don't like the idea of trading our #10 for him either.


Totally agree. Get the best player we can get at 10 and wait until next year with all the expirings we have.

I also don't understand all the hatred for Rush...he's a useful scorer, and he plays some very nice defense. And I do think he will get better. I think if we give upon him, we may regret it later.
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Post#15 » by fj20 » Wed Jun 2, 2010 4:43 am

i mean what are the chances that parker would want to stay here? how would we know he just wouldnt go sign back with SA after the year? unless we trade...good thing is he has played in a small market like us...even though he has 2 rings to show for it
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Post#16 » by greenway84 » Wed Jun 2, 2010 5:08 am

Dunthreevy wrote:
greenway84 wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to just be patient and sign Tony next summer. why give up trading pieces when we could just be patient. hell we waited this long.


Because most likely Tony Parker wouldn't willingly come here as a free agent. But if we can get him in a trade, then we could either extend him or use him as trade bait.


1. Well if he wouldn't sign as a free agent then why would he sign an extension with us?

2. We get could get collison for cheaper who is younger paid less with no injury issues,and be along term pg rather than a 1 year rental.

3. Even if we got him to just turn around and trade at the deadline, we wouldn't get anymore for a 4 month rental on Parker than we would for Murphy, Rush, #10
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Post#17 » by Dunthreevy » Wed Jun 2, 2010 1:50 pm

greenway84 wrote:
Dunthreevy wrote:
greenway84 wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to just be patient and sign Tony next summer. why give up trading pieces when we could just be patient. hell we waited this long.


Because most likely Tony Parker wouldn't willingly come here as a free agent. But if we can get him in a trade, then we could either extend him or use him as trade bait.


1. Well if he wouldn't sign as a free agent then why would he sign an extension with us?

2. We get could get collison for cheaper who is younger paid less with no injury issues,and be along term pg rather than a 1 year rental.

3. Even if we got him to just turn around and trade at the deadline, we wouldn't get anymore for a 4 month rental on Parker than we would for Murphy, Rush, #10



Sorry but I think you're wrong. Have there been ANY reports that the Hornets are even shopping Collison? Saying we could get him and get him cheaper is a huge assumption. Saying that we couldn't get more value for Parker than we can for Murphy, Rush & #10 just doesn't make sense.

We'd essentially be trading 3 quarters for a dollar. A dollar is always more valuable.
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Post#18 » by ardthomp » Wed Jun 2, 2010 8:32 pm

Because most likely Tony Parker wouldn't willingly come here as a free agent. But if we can get him in a trade, then we could either extend him or use him as trade bait.


1. Well if he wouldn't sign as a free agent then why would he sign an extension with us?

2. We get could get collison for cheaper who is younger paid less with no injury issues,and be along term pg rather than a 1 year rental.

3. Even if we got him to just turn around and trade at the deadline, we wouldn't get anymore for a 4 month rental on Parker than we would for Murphy, Rush, #10[/quote]


Sorry but I think you're wrong. Have there been ANY reports that the Hornets are even shopping Collison? Saying we could get him and get him cheaper is a huge assumption. Saying that we couldn't get more value for Parker than we can for Murphy, Rush & #10 just doesn't make sense.

We'd essentially be trading 3 quarters for a dollar. A dollar is always more valuable.[/quote]


New Orleans wants to shed money, we have nothing they would want for Collison.
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Post#19 » by pacersrule08 » Wed Jun 2, 2010 8:47 pm

wat about murphy rush and our two second rounders for parker? I mean helps out both teams and will make conseco more crowded.

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Post#20 » by greenway84 » Wed Jun 2, 2010 9:14 pm

Sorry but I think you're wrong. Have there been ANY reports that the Hornets are even shopping Collison?

I havent heard ANY reports saying Parker is being shopped.

Saying we could get him and get him cheaper is a huge assumption.

Collisoin is a an unproven second year guy. Parker is a three time all star with multiple championships. NOH have Paul if Collison is traded. SA has Hill. So I have to believe Collison would be cheaper. As far as being able to obtain Collison. I have to think that, that team isnt big enough for both. It would make great sense for NOH to obtain a player that fills a need at another position. So I think chances are at least good.

Saying that we couldn't get more value for Parker than we can for Murphy, Rush & #10 just doesn't make sense.

I said a 4 month rental of Parker would not get us any more than what the accumulative of a huge exp, young prospect, and a high 1st round pick would. Not too mention If we did get Parker without an extension he would dictate where we sent him, because most teams wont trade for a guy of his caliber unless hes going to resign. Otherwise all we have is an exp contract to trade, which we already have in Murphy.

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