The LeBron Thread

[versifiervt]

Now since I know more people than not would agree with me about the Thunder talent level vs. the Knicks...let's move on to the Bulls...

Noah = DLee except that Noah is coming into his own much sooner in his career than Lee did.

Derrick Rose > than any PG the Knicks have had in a long, long time.

Taj Gibson = Wilson Chandler. Why? Gibson's first season is more than comparable to Chandler's rookie season a few years back and yeah I know Gibson is a PF and Gallo is a SF.

Deng > Gallo. Despite the ceiling Gallo might have, this is about where Lebron can win sooner and Deng is more of a finished product than Danillo.

[Wilson Chandlaa]

no one thought they would be a playoff team. when we watch our players play 82 games a year we see the potential in them. gallo was basically a rookie last year Douglas was a rookie and walker played in less games than gallo in his career. and Chandler is going into his 4th year. so if your so naive to think the knicks won't be a championship contender with lebron and bosh you should stop posting because your making yourself look dumb

Classy. LOL. So I guess the rest of the country outside of NY is dumb too. LMAO.

anyone who thinks lebron and bosh won't make the knicks a championship contender they don't know as much as they think they do. and I'm sure you can find some smart analysts who agree with me and I know lebron thinks the same thing. people still questioned the celtics when they got kg and Allen. but I guess the majority is always right huh?

[Bigmo5246]

no one thought they would be a playoff team. when we watch our players play 82 games a year we see the potential in them. gallo was basically a rookie last year Douglas was a rookie and walker played in less games than gallo in his career. and Chandler is going into his 4th year. so if your so naive to think the knicks won't be a championship contender with lebron and bosh you should stop posting because your making yourself look dumb

Classy. LOL. So I guess the rest of the country outside of NY is dumb too. LMAO.

Well to be fair, it doesn't seem like anybody outside of NY will support the Knicks regardless of what they do. This is the first time in a long time that the Knicks have a pretty big shot at signing a superstar (well two actually), and still they are criticized by everybody outside of NY. To think that people believe Chicago has a "chance" aggravates me. Honestly, do you all think Lebron is that dumb to turn down the chance to play for the best city in the world, and become an icon by bringing basketball back to NYC? And it's not like he can't win championships here. A Lebron-Bosh-Gallo trio could be one of the best in the league. Why would anybody who wants to be a LEGEND go to a place that is already owned by the best player to ever play the game in Michael Jordan. Do you think that Lebron wants to be the SECOND best player to ever be a part of a franchise? Let's face it, even if Lebron wins big in Chicago, he will never win as much as Jordan did and this will always make people say, "Well he wasn't as good as Jordan" when speaking about James. All Lebron needs to do is win one championship here, and he is a LEGEND. If he wins two or more (which would likely happen with Bosh and Gallo), then the guy is an ICON. Lebron realizes all this and this is why Knick fans argue that we have the best chance to sign him.

[cgf]

Back to the Thunder. Let's lay out some facts here.

Lebron's Cavs took advantage of a weak Eastern Conference while the Celts nurtured their injured players for basically the whole entire season.

OKC meanwhile, battled a much tougher Western conference and were the closest to beating the Lakers in the playoffs.

Durant, at the age of TWENTY-ONE people was second in the MVP voting...and again on a team that has to play in a tougher conference.

As for the Knicks so-called talent...Gallo, Chandler, Douglas...put any of the Thunder young talent in D'Antoni's system, and I'm pretty confident their #s skyrocket over what any of these guys have done. Remember D'Antoni is the same guy who's made players like Barbosa and Diaw look real good. So to see Gallo, Chandler, and Douglas not be able to be as consistent or explosive as the Sun's team D'Antoni once had speaks volumes.

Guys remember, there are analysts and experts around this country who know more than us...who follow talent around the country for a living. Let's not go crazy here. The facts are the facts. You people short-change every team's players cuz they don't play for the Knicks. LOL. And if I'm sounding like a Thunder fan...i'm not. I'm from the tri-state area and just love watching basketball. I get to read all the media around here, but I sure don't ignore what's being written else-where.

If Lebron comes to the Knicks, it won't be because he believe it's his best chance to win a ring anytime soon.

You're assuming that Mike D ran an up tempo scheme here last year. Which he didn't, so those guys' numbers would only grow if they got a bigger role with the knicks because of our **** vets. And if you don't think LeBron and Bosh is enough to make us championship caliber that's foolish. Add a defensive Center this year or next and that's a Dynasty. Dougie, Chandler and the Center, let's say Pryz or Nene, as the defensive specialists while LBJ, Bosh and Gallo form the best trio in the league.

[cgf]

Now since I know more people than not would agree with me about the Thunder talent level vs. the Knicks...let's move on to the Bulls...

Noah = DLee except that Noah is coming into his own much sooner in his career than Lee did.

Derrick Rose > than any PG the Knicks have had in a long, long time.

Taj Gibson = Wilson Chandler. Why? Gibson's first season is more than comparable to Chandler's rookie season a few years back and yeah I know Gibson is a PF and Gallo is a SF.

Deng > Gallo. Despite the ceiling Gallo might have, this is about where Lebron can win sooner and Deng is more of a finished product than Danillo.

That's hilarious.

[BBALLER4FR]

Noah = DLee except that Noah is coming into his own much sooner in his career than Lee did.

WTH R smoking? Until Noah puts up 20ppg, develops a handle, learns to be completely functional with his off hand and matches Lee's range they are most certainly NOT "=".

Derrick Rose > than any PG the Knicks have had in a long, long time.

You'll get no argument from anyone here.

Taj Gibson = Wilson Chandler. Why? Gibson's first season is more than comparable to Chandler's rookie season a few years back and yeah I know Gibson is a PF and Gallo is a SF.

Seriously, what are you doing dude? Projecting unknowns is not a way to compare players. It's so flawed. Is it OK for me to say Gallo = Dirk? Yay, look what I did.

Deng > Gallo. Despite the ceiling Gallo might have, this is about where Lebron can win sooner and Deng is more of a finished product than Danillo.

Egads man!

[Toranaga]

Now since I know more people than not would agree with me about the Thunder talent level vs. the Knicks...let's move on to the Bulls...

Noah = DLee except that Noah is coming into his own much sooner in his career than Lee did.

Derrick Rose > than any PG the Knicks have had in a long, long time.

Taj Gibson = Wilson Chandler. Why? Gibson's first season is more than comparable to Chandler's rookie season a few years back and yeah I know Gibson is a PF and Gallo is a SF.

Deng > Gallo. Despite the ceiling Gallo might have, this is about where Lebron can win sooner and Deng is more of a finished product than Danillo.

Wait I thought we were talking about LeBron winning right now? So why is Taj get the special treatment to be compared to Chandler's rookie season?

And since we are talking about right now, what does Chicago do when teams collapse the paint and make them shoot jumpers? They aren't going to have the cap to go out and get shooters and there are probably not going to get anyone at the vet min that can shoot.

Last time I checked, basketball was played on the court, not on paper. And on the court, that squad does not complement LeBron at ALL.

[versifiervt]

Why would anybody who wants to be a LEGEND go to a place that is already owned by the best player to ever play the game in Michael Jordan. Do you think that Lebron wants to be the SECOND best player to ever be a part of a franchise? Let's face it, even if Lebron wins big in Chicago, he will never win as much as Jordan did and this will always make people say, "Well he wasn't as good as Jordan" when speaking about James. All Lebron needs to do is win one championship here, and he is a LEGEND. If he wins two or more (which would likely happen with Bosh and Gallo), then the guy is an ICON. Lebron realizes all this and this is why Knick fans argue that we have the best chance to sign him.

It's the media who brings up all that mumbo-jumbo about playing Jordan's shadow. Saying lebron can only be a legend is NYC is ignorant. If Lebron wins multiple rings ANYWHERE, plus his individual stats, he'll be a legend. But he has to win 'Multiple' rings. Winning one in NY will only be BIG in New York. Like you said, everyone around the country knocks the Knicks. I don't think people around the country give a care about Walt Frazier or Willis Reed, and believe me I'm sure Lebron knows this. Winning 4 rings in NY or anywhere will make Lebron legendary. If he never wins at all, he'll be the Dan Marino of NBA history.

[versifiervt]

Last time I checked, basketball was played on the court, not on paper.

EXACTLY. And what we know of the court-play between the Bulls and Knicks squads is that the Bulls made the playoffs and the Knicks didn't.

In memphis, they have talent too and it's been somewhat as bad a situation over there as it's been in MSG. But yet, the young talent there is able to bring it. Chandler has been good, I won't take that away from him, but there have been more impressive young players in this league too. Just look across the river, there's a 22 year old Center(Lopez) who was able to put up stats on a team that couldn't score for crap.

Like you said, it's not what's on paper, it's on the court that matters. The Bulls talent, under a coach they just fired, proved to be closer to having a winning group than what the Knicks have.

[KnicksScholar24]

I wonder what the oil spill will do with the LeBron James recruitment in Miami.

[I am Ra]

Last time I checked, basketball was played on the court, not on paper.

EXACTLY. And what we know of the court-play between the Bulls and Knicks squads is that the Bulls made the playoffs and the Knicks didn't.

In memphis, they have talent too and it's been somewhat as bad a situation over there as it's been in MSG. But yet, the young talent there is able to bring it. Chandler has been good, I won't take that away from him, but there have been more impressive young players in this league too. Just look across the river, there's a 22 year old Center(Lopez) who was able to put up stats on a team that couldn't score for crap.

Like you said, it's not what's on paper, it's on the court that matters. The Bulls talent, under a coach they just fired, proved to be closer to having a winning group than what the Knicks have.

Oh right you cant play with all those players that made us lose games last year. Ok. Bye Duhon, bye Harrington, bye House, bye Nate, bye Jeffries, bye 2009 Knick team. You guys still have the same mediocre core, we will have a totally revamped one.

[Pharmcat]

Last time I checked, basketball was played on the court, not on paper.

EXACTLY. And what we know of the court-play between the Bulls and Knicks squads is that the Bulls made the playoffs and the Knicks didn't.

In memphis, they have talent too and it's been somewhat as bad a situation over there as it's been in MSG. But yet, the young talent there is able to bring it. Chandler has been good, I won't take that away from him, but there have been more impressive young players in this league too. Just look across the river, there's a 22 year old Center(Lopez) who was able to put up stats on a team that couldn't score for crap.

Like you said, it's not what's on paper, it's on the court that matters. The Bulls talent, under a coach they just fired, proved to be closer to having a winning group than what the Knicks have.

but the knicks have a 2nd max slot and eddys expiring...depending on how we use them, we could get anywhere from 2 to 4+ players in return for those. its really a mute discussion until the FAs decide what they want to do and the nyk (and other teams) react accordingly

[RutgersBJJ]

Now since I know more people than not would agree with me about the Thunder talent level vs. the Knicks...let's move on to the Bulls...

Noah = DLee except that Noah is coming into his own much sooner in his career than Lee did.

Derrick Rose > than any PG the Knicks have had in a long, long time.

Taj Gibson = Wilson Chandler. Why? Gibson's first season is more than comparable to Chandler's rookie season a few years back and yeah I know Gibson is a PF and Gallo is a SF.

Deng > Gallo. Despite the ceiling Gallo might have, this is about where Lebron can win sooner and Deng is more of a finished product than Danillo.

so when you compare Gibson and Chandler you compare Gibson to Chandler's rookie season, but when comparing Gallo and Deng you say that future growth doesn't matter? You can't have it both ways. Oh by the way, Taj Gibson is 2 years older than Chandler. You compare them now and there is no comparison, Chandler is better and has much better upside.

But you know this, and you are just trolling under a 2nd username.


At the end of the day the team Lebron is going to has to have a legit 2nd superstar (Chicago does not have that, we could have that, Miami has that) and a very good coach (Miami does not have that right now, Chicago will not have that, and we have that). The Cavs have none of this, they are only still in the discussion because they happened to have drafted Lebron. Until Miami fires Spoelstra and Riley comes back on the bench I don't see another viable option for Lebron to win multiple championships with than to team with a superstar and play in NYC. And unless Chicago finds an idiot to take Deng, then they are not in the discussion. You add Lebron to the Bulls and they still aren't good enough to beat the Lakers. No 2nd superstar.

[Bigmo5246]

Why would anybody who wants to be a LEGEND go to a place that is already owned by the best player to ever play the game in Michael Jordan. Do you think that Lebron wants to be the SECOND best player to ever be a part of a franchise? Let's face it, even if Lebron wins big in Chicago, he will never win as much as Jordan did and this will always make people say, "Well he wasn't as good as Jordan" when speaking about James. All Lebron needs to do is win one championship here, and he is a LEGEND. If he wins two or more (which would likely happen with Bosh and Gallo), then the guy is an ICON. Lebron realizes all this and this is why Knick fans argue that we have the best chance to sign him.

It's the media who brings up all that mumbo-jumbo about playing Jordan's shadow. Saying lebron can only be a legend is NYC is ignorant. If Lebron wins multiple rings ANYWHERE, plus his individual stats, he'll be a legend. But he has to win 'Multiple' rings. Winning one in NY will only be BIG in New York. Like you said, everyone around the country knocks the Knicks. I don't think people around the country give a care about Walt Frazier or Willis Reed, and believe me I'm sure Lebron knows this. Winning 4 rings in NY or anywhere will make Lebron legendary. If he never wins at all, he'll be the Dan Marino of NBA history.

Are you serious man? If he wins it in NY, he will be Known as a true Legend in this game. Not only in NY. Winning a ring anywhere else isn't like winning in NY. If you were a professional athlete, are you telling me that you would rather win in Chicago than in NYC?

[BBALLER4FR]

Last time I checked, basketball was played on the court, not on paper.

EXACTLY. And what we know of the court-play between the Bulls and Knicks squads is that the Bulls made the playoffs and the Knicks didn't.

Thanks Toronto for stinking up the joint. By floundering your way out of the playoffs you've allowed Chicago to think their end of the year tear and quick playoff exit to a team of LeBron and pond scum makes them something worth talking about

[Bigmo5246]

Now since I know more people than not would agree with me about the Thunder talent level vs. the Knicks...let's move on to the Bulls...

Noah = DLee except that Noah is coming into his own much sooner in his career than Lee did.

Derrick Rose > than any PG the Knicks have had in a long, long time.

Taj Gibson = Wilson Chandler. Why? Gibson's first season is more than comparable to Chandler's rookie season a few years back and yeah I know Gibson is a PF and Gallo is a SF.

Deng > Gallo. Despite the ceiling Gallo might have, this is about where Lebron can win sooner and Deng is more of a finished product than Danillo.

Wait I thought we were talking about LeBron winning right now? So why is Taj get the special treatment to be compared to Chandler's rookie season?

And since we are talking about right now, what does Chicago do when teams collapse the paint and make them shoot jumpers? They aren't going to have the cap to go out and get shooters and there are probably not going to get anyone at the vet min that can shoot.

Last time I checked, basketball was played on the court, not on paper. And on the court, that squad does not complement LeBron at ALL.

I never thought of it that way lol... good point

[I am Ra]

Noah = DLee except that Noah is coming into his own much sooner in his career than Lee did.

Noah is 25. Lee is 27. How fast do you expect Noah to gain an offensive game? Your statement is a blatant lie to yourself.

Derrick Rose > than any PG the Knicks have had in a long, long time.

Marbury had pretty good stats also.

Taj Gibson = Wilson Chandler. Why? Gibson's first season is more than comparable to Chandler's rookie season a few years back and yeah I know Gibson is a PF and Gallo is a SF.

whats this have to do with Gallo. Btw I know you dont know anything about the Knicks but Chandlers rookie year was ruined by our savior Isaiah. Had he let him play since day 1 he wouldve been much better statswise that year.

Deng > Gallo. Despite the ceiling Gallo might have, this is about where Lebron can win sooner and Deng is more of a finished product than Danillo.

Foolishness. Not even close to truth.

[KnicksScholar24]

Now since I know more people than not would agree with me about the Thunder talent level vs. the Knicks...let's move on to the Bulls...

Noah = DLee except that Noah is coming into his own much sooner in his career than Lee did.

Derrick Rose > than any PG the Knicks have had in a long, long time.

Taj Gibson = Wilson Chandler. Why? Gibson's first season is more than comparable to Chandler's rookie season a few years back and yeah I know Gibson is a PF and Gallo is a SF.

Deng > Gallo. Despite the ceiling Gallo might have, this is about where Lebron can win sooner and Deng is more of a finished product than Danillo.

Noah is not equal to David Lee. Why didn't you compare Gallinari with Gibson and Deng with Chandler? Wouldn't that make a more sense? Rose is better than Douglas, although many think Douglas is a better fit at PG to play with LeBron James. Douglas also has a lot of room to improve. (Sidenote: Stephon Marbury in his prime was better than Rose last year.)

[I am Ra]

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can you guys ip check this man. Hes probably a Bulls fan who just made an account so he can troll up our board.

[cgf]

It's kinda close to the truth in that Deng is a finished product who's only gotten worse these past few years, but Gallo's still better than him with huge room to improve.