O.T. .::THE SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY THREAD::.

Subway Token · Post #141 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:10 am

I think we should shift gears to the Illuminati. It's actually pretty alarming. I didn't believe it at first, but it's amazing how much symbolism there is in our world. It's really mind-boggling.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP9epoUDFqM&feature=related[/youtube]

At one point, you can't help but not believe...

Post #142 » by **duetta** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:14 am

I begin with a particularly revealing episode—the panic that broke out in some quarters at the end of the eighteenth century over the allegedly subversive activities of the Bavarian Illuminati. This panic was a part of the general reaction to the French Revolution. In the United States it was heightened by the response of certain men, mostly in New England and among the established clergy, to the rise of Jeffersonian democracy. Illuminism had been started in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, a professor of law at the University of Ingolstadt. Its teachings today seem to be no more than another version of Enlightenment rationalism, spiced with the anticlerical atmosphere of eighteenth-century Bavaria. It was a somewhat naïve and utopian movement which aspired ultimately to bring the human race under the rules of reason. Its humanitarian rationalism appears to have acquired a fairly wide influence in Masonic lodges.

Americans first learned of Illumism in 1797, from a volume published in Edinburgh (later reprinted in New York) under the title, Proofs of a Conspiracy Against All the Religions and Governments of Europe, Carried on in the Secret Meetings of Free Masons, Illuminati, and Reading Societies. Its author was a well-known Scottish scientist, John Robison, who had himself been a somewhat casual adherent of Masonry in Britain, but whose imagination had been inflamed by what he considered to be the far less innocent Masonic movement on the Continent. Robison seems to have made his work as factual as he could, but when he came to estimating the moral character and the political influence of Illuminism, he made the characteristic paranoid leap into fantasy. The association, he thought, was formed “for the express purpose of rooting out all religious establishments, and overturning all the existing governments of europe.” It had become “one great and wicked project fermenting and working all over Europe.” And to it he attributed a central role in bringing about the French Revolution. He saw it as a libertine, anti-Christian movement, given to the corruption of women, the cultivation of sensual pleasures, and the violation of property rights. Its members had plans for making a tea that caused abortion—a secret substance that “blinds or kills when spurted in the face,” and a device that sounds like a stench bomb—a “method for filling a bedchamber with pestilential vapours.”

These notions were quick to make themselves felt in America. In May 1798, a minister of the Massachusetts Congregational establishment in Boston, Jedidiah Morse, delivered a timely sermon to the young country, which was then sharply divided between Jeffersonians and Federalists, Francophiles and Anglomen. Having read Robison, Morse was convinced of a Jacobinical plot touched off by Illuminism, and that the country should be rallied to defend itself. His warnings were heeded throughout New England wherever Federalists brooded about the rising tide of religious infidelity or Jeffersonian democracy. Timothy Dwight, the president of Yale, followed Morse’s sermon with a Fourth-of-July discourse on The Duty of Americans in the Present Crisis, in which he held forth against the Antichrist in his own glowing rhetoric. Soon the pulpits of New England were ringing with denunciations of the Illuminati, as though the country were swarming with them.

http://www.kenrahn.com/jfk/conspiracy_t ... style.html

Subway Token · Post #143 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:19 am

That was pretty interesting to read...^^^^

It seems as if they created an "abortion tea" with birth control pills. What next?

Post #144 » by **duetta** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:23 am

knicksfan5494 wrote:That was pretty interesting to read...^^^^

It seems as if they created an "abortion tea" with birth control pills. What next?

I guess that you didn't click on the link. The Illuminati madness has been going on for over 200 years. We've been a paranoid nation from the start...

Subway Token · Post #145 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:25 am

duetta wrote:
knicksfan5494 wrote:That was pretty interesting to read...^^^^

It seems as if they created an "abortion tea" with birth control pills. What next?

I guess that you didn't click on the link. The Illuminati madness has been going on for over 200 years. We've been a paranoid nation from the start...

. I was just referring to the paragraph about the abortion tea, the blinding liquid, and that stuff. Here's another interesting video I found.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixhSOjrHcec[/youtube]

EDIT: LeBron changing his number to 6!
Kobe changed his number to 24. 2+4=6!
Who's gonna be the last 6? :O

ITGM · Post #146 » by **ITGM** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:40 am

^^^^^^^
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHAYjIpJGbs[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYG3LG0tzlo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vedqWDSA4U[/youtube]

Post #147 » by **duetta** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:42 am

Hey, George Washington and Ben Franklin were Freemasons. So were FDR and Harry Truman. Lebron for President!

Subway Token · Post #148 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:43 am

I hate this. I always get myself so into all of this Illuminati crap and I scare myself crapless....

It's like the sun. You wanna look at it, but when you do, it hurts. This stuff is so interesting and fascinating... but so scary.

fazzk7 · Post #149 » by **fazzk7** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:44 am

knicksfan5494 wrote:
duetta wrote:
knicksfan5494 wrote:That was pretty interesting to read...^^^^

It seems as if they created an "abortion tea" with birth control pills. What next?

I guess that you didn't click on the link. The Illuminati madness has been going on for over 200 years. We've been a paranoid nation from the start...

. I was just referring to the paragraph about the abortion tea, the blinding liquid, and that stuff. Here's another interesting video I found.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixhSOjrHcec[/youtube]

EDIT: LeBron changing his number to 6!
Kobe changed his number to 24. 2+4=6!
Who's gonna be the last 6? :O

Seriously man? Seriously?

You can find anything if you look hard enough - these connections arent there. Why is Kobe 24 and not 6 again?

Subway Token · Post #150 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:46 am

^^^^ I know, the numbers part were a little silly.

There are so many Illuminati connections in our world it's scary. Watch the first video I posted

ITGM · Post #151 » by **ITGM** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:47 am

knicksfan5494 wrote:It's like the sun. You wanna look at it, but when you do, it hurts. This stuff is so interesting and fascinating... but so scary.

Powerful statement wether you know it or not.

fazzk7 · Post #152 » by **fazzk7** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:47 am

I did - but like I said its not there. So everything with an "eye" in the logo/picture is automatically the devil? The monster energy drink didnt even look that letter.

Post #153 » by **kane2021** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:47 am

Leave the kid alone. He is interested in greater thought. Its not your place to deprive people of thought. You sound like one of them right now.

Subway Token · Post #154 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:49 am

fazzk7 wrote:I did - but like I said its not there. So everything with an "eye" in the logo/picture is automatically the devil? The monster energy drink didnt even look that letter.

Believe what you want my dude. I didn't believe either. It just got overwhelming. I've been very studious about this (Masonry, Illuminati, etc) and it's truly fascinating if you believe it or not.

Subway Token · Post #155 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:49 am

ITGM wrote:
knicksfan5494 wrote:It's like the sun. You wanna look at it, but when you do, it hurts. This stuff is so interesting and fascinating... but so scary.

Powerful statement wether you know it or not.

Mind explaining?

Post #156 » by **j4remi** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:50 am

My problem with the whole "free masons taking over the world" thing is that I'm not a devout Christian. I take to Buddhist teachings much more closely. Many of the theories about illuminati come from people being misinformed or exaggerating truths...maybe not everything but many things I've seen. It's just not something I can buy into. What about the Muslims, Jewish, Hindus?

fazzk7 · Post #157 » by **fazzk7** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:51 am

No, I am stating my opinion on the matter. It is not OK to leave someone alone who is legitimately scared of something that isnt there. Helping someone realize the sensationalism in these videos isn't depriving anyone of anything. Fueling this talk definitely is.

And I sound like one of them? I wish I was then apparently I would have all the riches and power in the world! But no, I am on the Knicks realgm board distracted from studying for my finals.

Subway Token · Post #158 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:53 am

j4remi wrote:My problem with the whole "free masons taking over the world" thing is that I'm not a devout Christian. I take to Buddhist teachings much more closely. Many of the theories about illuminati come from people being misinformed or exaggerating truths...maybe not everything but many things I've seen. It's just not something I can buy into. What about the Muslims, Jewish, Hindus?

Anyway:

I believe that it is a huge misconception about Satanism. I do believe that Satanism isn't the actual belief in the anti-Christ or the devil, but what it STANDS FOR. Meaning, an opposition, an "anti", something to go AGAINST something. A challenger.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Subway Token · Post #159 » by **Subway Token** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:54 am

fazzk7 wrote:No, I am stating my opinion on the matter. It is not OK to leave someone alone who is legitimately scared of something that isnt there. Helping someone realize the sensationalism in these videos isn't depriving anyone of anything. Fueling this talk definitely is.

And I sound like one of them? I wish I was then apparently I would have all the riches and power in the world! But no, I am on the Knicks realgm board distracted from studying for my finals.

I'm scared, in an intriguing kind of way. Kinda like how some people get scared going to new places, or getting scared about losing their virginity. It's a fear of the unknown. I don't know, and I want to know.

TheBluest · Post #160 » by **TheBluest** » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:55 am

j4remi wrote:My problem with the whole "free masons taking over the world" thing is that I'm not a devout Christian. I take to Buddhist teachings much more closely. Many of the theories about illuminati come from people being misinformed or exaggerating truths...maybe not everything but many things I've seen. It's just not something I can buy into. What about the Muslims, Jewish, Hindus?

Good point at the same time we can be so skeptical of everything but to dumb it down....why do we think we are here? I mean really what's a human being's purpose in life? To live... work hard for as much money you can get to sustain your life as long as possible, procreate, and hopefully have as much time to recreate in between and then die? Is this all life has to offer? There is nothing out there more powerful than humans outside of physical laws?